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W.G.
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Topic: The Stump BatPosted: 18 January 2007 at 9:20am |
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This follows on from a response I posted in another thread about batting technique.
In my youth I had the great pleasure to have as a neighbour a journeyman cricketer who played and coached at county level - he taught me (or tried to) many things, but by far the best was how important it is to use net sessions to full effect, and standing there blasting the ball achieves little but a short-lived feel-good factor. Arthur showed me the value of the 'stump-bat' - to all intents and purposes a stump used as a bat, but I now keep old bats and take an inch or so off each side and a couple of inches off the toe - leaving a narrowed, truncated bat. It really does help you appreciate the middle of the bat, and when you pick up the real thing you feel as if you are playing with an oversized lump of willow. Just thought I'd share that. |
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shan
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 10:55am |
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That's sounds like a great way of improving the batting skills to me. Nothing can be more fascinating than the sweat musical sound produced by the ball striking right in the middle of the bat, that's awesome. |
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 11:23am |
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I find using a golf ball while using a 'stump' bat is best
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shan
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 1:34pm |
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In the regular nets that doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Edited by shan - 18 January 2007 at 1:35pm |
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 4:51pm |
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Am I right in saying that is what Bradman used to do 3 hours a day?
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 4:59pm |
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im sure you can buy something like this
called "eye-in"
or somthing
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check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 4:59pm |
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oh yeah youre right
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 5:06pm |
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check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr
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shan
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 7:36pm |
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stump with golf ball in the nets? No way! It can be a one man show though, to improve the your eye which is a pre-requisit to middle the ball. Edited by shan - 18 January 2007 at 7:46pm |
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Kerm
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 7:52pm |
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My mate smacked my bowling around when I used a golf ball and he had a stump, no idea how, I can hardly hit the ball with a cricket bat =P
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W.G.
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 8:02pm |
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Why would anyone pay good money for something you can fashion from an old bat? |
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Kerm
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 8:06pm |
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Yeah. Saw one of those in JJB the other day and me and my mate came to the instant conclusion of "why pay £29.99(how much it was there) for something we can make in seconds.
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 8:13pm |
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There's time value of money, and then there's money value of time, got the clue W.G.? You cut the old willow or buy a ready-made one, either way it's equally good.
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 8:16pm |
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But you can just as easily just use a random piece of wood you find lying around, if your only aim is to practice middling the ball then you can use a rolled up newspaper if you like it doesnt make a massive difference.
I see what you mean though Shan, I imagine its the sort of thing families buy for kids who like cricket as an easy present. |
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 8:25pm |
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 8:26pm |
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 8:40pm |
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Hahaha, the oldy goldy stuff, which I like a lot.
To learn cricket, one doesn't necessarily need to be a carpenter. Well keepign aside the fun, if you get satisfaction in doing it by yourself, it's just great, coz money can't buy it. And this even gets better if you have got nothing else to do and want to kill the time for a revenge. Edited by shan - 18 January 2007 at 9:11pm |
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 8:43pm |
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Well i'm not entirely sure why else you would be using a half bat if it wasnt for practicing keeping your eye on the ball and middling it. Feel free to enlighten me. |
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 9:07pm |
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Can I be the light tower for you Kerm? If this the only thing that matters then jugglers would have been the best batsmen, which they clearly aren't. It interalia includes practicing to improve your eye, middle the ball with straight bat, high back lift, practicing your shots, adjusting for the late movements etc. etc. so it's not only about this one thing. And with a rolled up paper you just cann't do all that stuff properly. And most importantly you cann't do nets like that, can you? |
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 9:19pm |
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Well was only using that as a fairly poor example, you would use it for middling the bat obviously but the the high backlift and late movement ect wouldnt it be better to use your actual bat then you get the muscle memory for the future rather then learning it with a half bat then having to almost relearn to compensate, or is it as have as a normal bat?
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Posted: 18 January 2007 at 9:21pm |
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Bradman used to hit the ball with a stump against a brick tank, and the golf ball would fly off sharply at different angles due to the cracks between the bricks. |
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 6:18am |
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When you win the toss - bat.
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 8:11am |
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While doing all that stuff (high back lift, adjustment for movement, variation etc. etc.) you need to middle the ball by trying to keep your bat straight and adjustment for the late movement at the same time. So if you do it with a half bat, all that stuff is taken care of at the same time. If you do all that stuff and don't middle the ball, it's not going to get you a long time to stay at the wicket when you actually play in a match.
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 8:52am |
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Well I learn something new everyday, haven't been playing cricket all that long so i'm glad there are guys like you around to tell me these things. Cheers.
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 10:58am |
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you know what WG, i think I'm going to try this theory next net session, what did you cut the blade with?
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W.G.
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 1:00pm |
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I have a bench mounted circular saw in my workshop - makes the job easy!!
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 2:57pm |
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any alternatives for a 15 year old?
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 3:00pm |
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Take it along to B&Q and ask them to run it through their saw, alternatively nick a panel saw out of Mr Woodcock's resistant materials classroom.
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 3:03pm |
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the 2nd one sounds like a fun option
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 9:45pm |
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We had a guy who scored a century with a stump in a league match - albeit a former Indian international!!
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