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dips_december
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Topic: The use of the scrambled seam Posted: 14 June 2006 at 1:50pm |
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Hey i dont know about the use of the scrambled seam .Is there any particular pitch condition ,or does the ball do something else or is is something else .Please explain
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crick
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Posted: 14 June 2006 at 2:16pm |
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many people use the scrambled seam when they cant get the correct line with the swing! so to simplify bowling
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boo ha ha!
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The CCC
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Posted: 14 June 2006 at 2:19pm |
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Bowl a few googlies (most people can't get the seam straight) on off stump line. Then bowl a leg break with a scrambled seam on middle and off.
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swingking
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Posted: 23 June 2006 at 11:26am |
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Swing bowlers use the scambled seam when bowling swing makes it swing the oposite way ie an out swinger bowled with a scrambled seam would swing in. it gives a bit of variation to the bowler and confuses the batsmen. Any condition where you can get swing will do.
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Leezy
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Posted: 23 June 2006 at 5:22pm |
What the hell are u talking about?
Scrambling the seam gets rid of al swing!
If you can make a ball swing with a scrambled seam then ur some sort of miracle worker
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The Paceman
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crick
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Posted: 23 June 2006 at 5:49pm |
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well he is the swing king!
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boo ha ha!
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spin wizard
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Posted: 23 June 2006 at 6:18pm |
Originally posted by leezy
What the hell are u talking about?
Scrambling the seam gets rid of al swing!
If you can make a ball swing with a scrambled seam then ur some sort of miracle worker |
Yet again leezy , you are wrong. You are always doubting guys. A scramble seam on a seaming pitch is one of the worst sight for a batter because it can go anyway.
And by the way , swingking points were correct. Watch Jerome taylor bowl for west indies tomorrow or today and you will all see that his outswingers when scramble comes back in.
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Leezy
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Posted: 24 June 2006 at 1:11am |
Do any of you actually bowl swing?
U can't make a ball swing with a scrambled seam, aslong as I am understanding the term scrambled seam properly, in that u bowl with your fingers across the seam.
Its an impossibility simply because both sides of the ball are balanced
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The Paceman
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dips_december
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Posted: 24 June 2006 at 10:14am |
 u people are confusing me whom should i rely upon spinwiz?
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swingking
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Posted: 24 June 2006 at 7:56pm |
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right i am a swing bowler, an a pretty gd one. i dnt no the physics of bt it will swing the opposite direction. so ur just a crap swing bowler then cus every one knows that!
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The king of Swing
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Ck_spin
Square Leg
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Posted: 24 June 2006 at 10:47pm |
Do you scramble the seam at a certain angle then?
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crick
Square Leg
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Posted: 24 June 2006 at 11:53pm |
Originally posted by Ck_spin
Do you scramble the seam at a certain angle then?
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yeah good point, if it is a randomly scrambled seem, then physics says it wont swing, or if it does, it ma go slightly one way, then the other, but so minimally that it isn't noticeable,
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boo ha ha!
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swingking
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Posted: 25 June 2006 at 11:51am |
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yeah i bowl at an angle, but the angle varies depending on how much the ball is swing cus sometimes it negates the swing an you do not get any. Experiment an see thats what i did, doesnt always work though!
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The king of Swing
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Leezy
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Posted: 25 June 2006 at 12:04pm |
So what ur trying to say is that u don't actually bowl with a scrambled seam at all, and u just reverse swing it 
Sort out ur own knowledge of swing before u go criticising other peoples
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The Paceman
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swingking
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Posted: 25 June 2006 at 12:20pm |
no im not sayin that u can experiment with the angle of the ball a little bit. lets not turn this into point match, cuz ull only lose  ! what i mean is u dnt have to bolw with the seam vertical u can experiment with the angle of the seam, but too much an it wont swing scrambled seam or no.
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Leezy
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Posted: 25 June 2006 at 1:28pm |
So what ur basically saying is that everything u have said has no relevance to the thread whatsoever? -
Topic: The use of the scrambled seam
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The Paceman
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The CCC
Square Leg
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Posted: 25 June 2006 at 1:59pm |
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Wake up lad!
If you hold the seam at an angle and bowl as if the seam was straight, you will get a scrambled seam.
Got it?
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Rafay
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Posted: 26 June 2006 at 5:26pm |
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I was advised by an older teammate to not bowl with a scrambled seam when we were in the nets once.
Well, I think bowling with a scrambled seam just makes it go a random direction when it lands, but I don't know why you wouldn't just keep the seam straight and have it land on a straight seam then deviate.
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Ck_spin
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Posted: 26 June 2006 at 5:46pm |
If you are bowling spin, the batsman wont know which way the ball is going to turn if you bowling with scramble.
If you bowl fast, it is better to keep the seam straight. as it creates less resistance and more bounce.
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dips_december
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Posted: 27 June 2006 at 5:00am |
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I think i have got enough of advice mates ,thanks for them now Jp or Sledger please lock this thing
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