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saadadvanced7
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Topic: Damien MartynPosted: 15 January 2006 at 12:10am |
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Since I am still fairly new to cricket, I don't know the 'lehmann story'. Can you please expand on that a bit?
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 14 January 2006 at 2:05pm |
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if he gets thrown out of both then it will be like lehmann's story
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Posted: 14 January 2006 at 3:43am |
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Oh well. His career has been wasted. He could've become a great batsman but they wasted his career.
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Posted: 13 January 2006 at 3:28pm |
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you ppl need to remember in the the ashes series he got some poor desecions against him. and lately he's been in awesome form in the odi's and 20/20. I dont get y he got dropped from the test team in the frist place. it should of been katich dropped first. |
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Posted: 09 December 2005 at 10:56pm |
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Damien Martyns career has been wasted. He is 34. He'll play for another 2 years...maybe. he hasn't been doing too bad lately.
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Posted: 09 December 2005 at 5:42am |
It was SA at Sydney and South Africa won by 5 runs. He was 3rd last wicket to fall. The last two were McDermott and finally McGrath was caught and bowled by Fanie De Villiers , who took 6 wickets in the innings. Martyn batted for over an hour and scored only 6 runs - he battled to get the ball off the square against some tight bowling. You're right though - he was made a scapegoat and took an age to get back into the side. Personally I think he's been very hard done by - he got at least two ruffies in England and he did play very well at Lords. Don't forget the catch to dismiss Pietersen either - that was a beaut !! |
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Posted: 08 December 2005 at 6:09pm |
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that perfectly right why waste his life init |
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Posted: 14 November 2005 at 7:45pm |
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that's not fair. they dropped him for 10 years. they wasted 10 years of his life. that's harsh. he is a good player and might have deserved to be dropped after the ashes but he doesn't deserve to be dropped for 10 years.
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Posted: 14 November 2005 at 11:13am |
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Yeah, it was against South Africa, where the Aussies were skittled for
something like 129 (maybe wrong). Martyn, who was very young at that
time, got out playing a horrible shot, I think he was the last man out,
possible second last.
It is a bit harsh though, (I believe the Aussies lost by three runs) seeing as non of the experienced players did much better than him. To be dropped for 10 years must be a nightmare! |
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Posted: 14 November 2005 at 9:54am |
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He was dropped after a close game ended in a loss for the Aussies (against South Africa?) and he was deemed to be a culprit, playing a poor shot to get out near the end and so was dropped for that amount of time. |
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Posted: 14 November 2005 at 4:43am |
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i rekon martyn should stay in the team. he can be a good player at times
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Posted: 14 November 2005 at 4:28am |
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I don't know what the selectors have against martyn. Maybe he's not
enough of a croud pleaser. He might have been one of aussies greats had he not been dropped in '92. I noticed in his stats he played in '92 and then didn't play for another 10 years or something like that. Man thats harsh! |
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Posted: 14 November 2005 at 4:02am |
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Mate, if you look at Damien Martyn's history, there are a couple of
other examples where he was dropped when he didn't deserve to be. In
that wonderfully tight loss to South Africa when he was a youngster. He
was made a scape goat. And recently, he was also. He had one bad
series, as all players do. Unfortunately it coincided with others also
having bad series' (what is the plural of series?!).
The Aussie selectors had to appear to be doing something, and off went Martyn. Expect to probably see him back fr the South African series, if the new comers, or Clarke continue to fail. Martyn has been scoring runs for Western Australia, he may well still return to the test arena. |
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Posted: 14 November 2005 at 2:10am |
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katich has already been chopped and as capital_s said that clarke wouldn't be dropped because he recently won the allan border medal and is one of australia's young talents.
so that leaves martyn the only one to be chopped. |
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Posted: 14 November 2005 at 2:06am |
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-JP-, i meant if they chop gilchrist who is good enough to replace gilchrist??
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Posted: 14 November 2005 at 2:05am |
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I reckon Katich wasn't dropped because he wasn't too bad in the series
and hadn't been out of form before the ashes. Clarke would never have been dropped because he recently got the allan border medal and is one of australia's young talents. If you see my topic on clarke, you'll see what i mean. |
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Posted: 14 November 2005 at 1:32am |
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What about Katich? Clarke? Gilchrist the best keeper in the world. I really hope you meant the best keeper-batsman in the world, as fine player he is he is not the best gloveman around. |
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Posted: 14 November 2005 at 1:28am |
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ok, gilchrist was out of form but he's the best keeper in the world so they couldn't chop him. hayden was out of form but he has great averages and at the end managed a big ton so they couldn't chop him. gillispie was out of form and was already chopped. so the last one left to chop was martyn.
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Posted: 14 November 2005 at 1:17am |
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there were clearly a lot more players than just martyn who were out of form and avoided the chop saadadvanced. the selectors needed someone to blame for the loss and thus took it out on martyn. no one is asking you to fix the problem, i'm just pointing out that it was a slight injustice, and this is the general feeling in Australia regarding Martyn's sacking |
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Posted: 13 November 2005 at 4:23am |
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you mean the aussies lost the ashes and martyn was in bad form at the same time. well, maybe if he was in good form and the aussies still lost the ashes, maybe then he wouldn't be dropped.
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Posted: 13 November 2005 at 4:21am |
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Martyn has always been a bit of a scape goat. When things aren't going well he is the first to be dropped.
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Posted: 13 November 2005 at 2:53am |
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Well if you don't perform for a whole series, especially one that means so much to your nation, than i would expect any board to drop a player like that.
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Posted: 13 November 2005 at 2:19am |
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Despite Martyn being in the form of his life before the ashes, his
dropping after his ashes failure proves how harsh the Australians can be. |
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Posted: 13 November 2005 at 12:02am |
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well all those unfair decisions are unfair but its just the way the game is and i don't like it but what can i do? the thing is Damien Martyn clearly failed to be consistent through out the ashes and that is why i think he is dropped.
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Posted: 12 November 2005 at 11:43pm |
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the thing with Australian selectors is once you're dropped its probably unlikely you're going to get back into the team. The careers of Jason Gillespie and Martyn are all but over - look at Michael Bevan for example who dominated domestic cricket last year (average close to or on 100 in the First Class game) and did not even get a look in. Plus Martyn had some pretty dodgey decisions in the Ashes, a couple of times there were clear inside edges which the umpire failed to pick up and he was given out LBW. In terms of strokeplay, Martyn was probably the best Australian batsman to watch in this team, the most like Mark Waugh in terms of finesse. Its a shame to see him dropped |
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Posted: 08 November 2005 at 9:25pm |
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Yea, i've noticed damien martin didn't do anything for england and i would go as far as to say he doesn't even deserve to be in the MVP ratings.
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Posted: 07 November 2005 at 5:14am |
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Damien Martyn is a great batsmen but he is out of form. Look at the way
he played in the ashes. That is why he was dropped, a crap batsmen.
When he is out of form he is BAD BAD BAD and more BAD. Wait until he gets into form and then pick him again and then he will make four centuries in four innings. Edited by Charlie |
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Posted: 22 September 2005 at 2:50pm |
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....and now he's dropped.....we'll find out soon enough how keen he is to get his test place back. SA's 1st Test is at the WACA in December , he'll want to be playing on his home ground!
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Posted: 08 August 2005 at 12:48am |
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Martyn is a great player, he's struggling against England because we seem to bowl well at him, and set the right field.
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Posted: 05 August 2005 at 1:48pm |
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Damien Martyn is having a tough time in the Ashes series, only 80 odd runs from 3 innings!
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