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inswinger
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Topic: becoming a faster bowlerPosted: 27 September 2007 at 9:10pm |
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both.
probably more as u get older but doing the workouts will help slightly
depends wat ur build is at the moment. if ur a dweeb u probs do but at ur pace i wouldnt say u needed to do the workouts
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bobby95861
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Posted: 30 September 2007 at 12:41am |
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im a slow-medium pace baller please i need help with my balling
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inswinger
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Posted: 01 October 2007 at 8:34pm |
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make sure u are running at ur full pace when you hit the crease, have a long enough run up to build momentum. snap or flex your wrist though at the point of delivery. fast arm action.
there are many many ways to improve your pace but if u cant bowl any faster...bowl spin
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Posted: 17 October 2007 at 6:43pm |
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At your age, I would start going to the gym( completely you decsion) as this can stregthen your body enough to bowl faster. Further more, the more important factor of bowling faster is leverage.This basically means when your just about to bowl, and you land your front foot, you should keep it braced or locked and when you do plant you foot, think of a anchor, hammering to the ground. I think this advice should suffice.
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Jakey27
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Posted: 25 October 2007 at 5:36pm |
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hi, i am a fast bowler who is currently training with Yorkshire CCC first team, i have been clocked at 78mph but i really want to become quicker. the run-up is fine, delivery and follow through is fine, my coaches can only really offer me practice, but is there any advice you could offer me to hit that 80mph mark.
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inswinger
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Posted: 27 October 2007 at 11:28am |
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biomechanics.
i dont know how efficient your action is at the moment but i sugest reading "the fast bowlers bible" by ian pont
it realy helps
but if you cant get hold on it.
everything you do in your action is to transfer power to the bowling arm. you need a good chest drive. you need to pull your non bowling arm down very hard and use your hips to get more explosive power.
and the main thing.
always travel in straight lines. if you close off your action with your front foot or non bowling arm it will slow ou down.
and a straight run up
and just stay relaxed
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Posted: 28 October 2007 at 8:04pm |
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thanks inswinger, thats really helpful
do u know which specific muscles i should work on to improve pace?
thanks
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spin wizard
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Posted: 29 October 2007 at 7:04pm |
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Jakey, keep an upright body during run up and as much as possible when landing on the crease. A fast arm action does generate more pace but you have to make sure to warm up properly before doing that as you can hurt yourself.
Doing the maximum amount of push ups you can make a day can strengthen your muscles which can speed up your arm action which will make you gain pace.
Also, you can stiffen up your arm muscles just before you go into your bowling action which will make you put more into the delivery but i'm not too sure how much it will affect your accuracy but have a try at it, it's worth it if you're looking for more pace!
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Posted: 30 October 2007 at 3:02pm |
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130 km/h at 13 is physically impossible unless you are an absolute genetic freak who is huge. If you really bowl 130 you should be playing top grade for your club and be in your state team for your age, if you have decent accuracy.
People come up with absolute nonsense numbers, oh hey billy i bowl around 130, yea i just guessed from watching mcgrath bowl on tv, im about the same speed.
Ever notice how the keeper doesnt look far back on tv then u go to a match and hes over half way to the boundary against fast bowling?
the perception of the TV angle being straight down the wicket gives you barely any sense of how fast the ball is actually travelling.
Dont bother telling people how fast you bowl until you get it checked by a speed gun, even then those things are dodgy as hell
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Posted: 30 October 2007 at 7:40pm |
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bond- is that directed at me?
im 18 by the way, if i didn't mention
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spin wizard
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Posted: 31 October 2007 at 1:39am |
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Don't know what he's on about but I've seen McGrath live from the stands and I can tell you, he's much faster off the pitch than those speed guns say! Mitchell Johnson on the other hand is bloody fast through the air!
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inswinger
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Posted: 01 November 2007 at 9:55pm |
chest, shoulders back, sides , legs. abs alot.
if u dont have acsess to a gym.
press ups
sit ups
pull ups
lunges
etc
also yeah...mcgrath probs makes it come fast off the pitch of the amount he hit the seam and i swear he can control the way it goes. thats darn hard.
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Posted: 15 November 2007 at 6:37am |
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the speed gun measures out of the hand....
Also any idiot can say he bowls 140 km/h
anyone can take a misguided guess.
If you say you bowl 130 without being tested i would bet you bowl around 90 km/h
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Posted: 16 November 2007 at 9:54am |
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I always remember a mate of mine reckoned i was 120 (even though i knew i actually wasn't) but i actually clocked 113 which wasn't too far off i guess.
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Posted: 12 December 2007 at 7:23am |
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So back to topic. The runup is also an essential part of bowling quicker, a good runup will get you through the crease a lot better and will get you more pace.
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Posted: 12 December 2007 at 9:14pm |
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yeh u need enough mementum to get out of the crease, need to be balanced and comfortable. tis rele important
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Posted: 12 December 2007 at 9:44pm |
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I've been bowling fairly quickly by my standards recently and I think
its mainly down to just being relaxed and not trying to overcomplicate
things as i'm bowling. I pretty much gave up on bowling quick,
previously I was straining every muscle in my body and trying various
different actions to try and get extra speed although now i'm bowling
faster then I was pretty much jogging to the crease and going through
the action.
Admittedly I'm a pretty strong guy, spend quite alot of time in the gym so the strength is there, was obviously just counter productive for me to have been trying so hard. Lets hope that some accuracy comes with the pace in time for when nets start. |
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Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:58pm |
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Yea, straining to bowl fast is only counterproductive, as all that energy your expending to strain all your muscles is the energy you need to bowl faster for longer. I to have recently discovered the art of simplicity, rather then worrying about 'is my front arm high enough', 'is my run up straight' etc... i just think about running in between invisible 'tram lines' and keeping my whole action, including some of my follow through within the 'tram lines'.
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Posted: 19 December 2007 at 10:32pm |
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right. my action is pretty good but my front knee is never straight. it used to be but it isn't anymore. im bowling faster because i am using much better biomechanics in my action but this has caused my front knee to be bent.
would i be even faster if it wasnt? and how important to my bowling is it? |
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Posted: 19 December 2007 at 10:51pm |
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Well, from what i understand, by not bracing your front knee straight all its really doing is making you not as 'tall', the ball is being released at a lower height, so less bounce etc, though i don't believe it really effects your pace. It could well be straining your knee ligaments extra too though i guess.
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Posted: 21 December 2007 at 4:15am |
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You should also remember that feeling "loose" when you bowl will help you bowl quicker too, if you run in looking really tight it looks really bad, but instead you should just run in forget about the runup and how you run in but just run in and bowl and the speed will come.
Feeling loose and natural will also brace that front knee of yours without actually thinking about bracing it. I learnt that a few months ago but I'm still coming in abit tight. That day at training with grade cricketers a few months ago was the best, it really standed out to all my other ones, I was relaxed, loose, didn't care about anything ( ). Just ran in naturally and bowled naturally and I reckon I was bowling a lot quicker to my current pace then later that session I started thinking about my runup and I lost it and my knee wasn't bracing, and I was back to bowling a lot slower. With that quicker pace I was getting a lot more carry, more bounce, more pace, more everything and I reckon if I put more effort in the follow-through, it could've been abit quicker. Now, I'm slowly learning from the mistakes and gradually getting it back. My advice, don't overcomplicate it like I did. Edited by RightHandBat - 21 December 2007 at 4:33am |
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Posted: 21 December 2007 at 8:14pm |
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What's it like in Australia? The pitches and conditions i mean. Are they quicker and bouncier?
Do any of you recommend someone like me to play over there?
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Posted: 06 January 2008 at 8:03pm |
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Hi, thanks for the replies, the advice was gold dust, thanks. I was just wandering if any of you recommend Sprinting at 100m will benefit the run-up at all. And also would training Anaerobically benefit fast bowling? Thanks
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Posted: 07 January 2008 at 11:07am |
It really depends on where you want to move to. Somewhere like Queensland and Perth would be perfect. Other than that, the bounce is average but it's definately quicker than a few other places arounds the world. |
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Posted: 28 January 2008 at 1:04pm |
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just to say thanks for the help chin music, sorry bout the non-reply. i am at uni now where guys are a fair bit quicker and sometimes i can't even see it! but thanks anyway.
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Posted: 20 March 2008 at 4:38am |
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Yeah Sreesanth's quite fast but he's small and skinny.
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Posted: 20 March 2008 at 7:54am |
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Where did that come from?
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Posted: 28 March 2008 at 6:19pm |
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If you are an effective wicket taking bowler
than I would advice against changing your action in the persuit of speed,
because you are likely to lose the ability to swing or seam the ball
no one hear is likely to be Bret Lee so sacrificing movement for a few extra mph is stupid.
One pice of advice is make sure both the front arm and bowling arm rotate as far as possoble wothout causing discomfort. Your bowing hand should be pointing behind you in the follow through. Try and let your front foot hit the deck before your front arm comes down, this stops you from collapsing and losing momentum. Hold the ball as loosely as possible, this wont get you extra pace, but will help you relax and will make the ball carry further.
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Posted: 18 June 2008 at 6:33pm |
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to be honest its pretty much all in the action. i dont want to sound to up myself but im probably the quickest bowler in my pretty successful team and i just womble up to the wicket before i bowl. as an opposing batsman put it to his partner: "hes quicker than he looks"
i would say dont put to much effort into it since that can lead to bowling too short, but try to develop a nice flowing action and let that do all the work, all you need is good armspeed, and that doesnt neccesatily go hand in hand with pure grunt.
just my thoughts
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Posted: 19 September 2010 at 11:36am |
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I agree, your action has a lot to do with your pace, but its also your physical attributes which help too. A fast bowler with a good action could become a lot quicker if they were to train their strength and power with a conditioning program that is specific to fast bowling.
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