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spin wizard 
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 Topic: The Best Number 3 in TestsPosted: 22 August 2006 at 5:28pm |
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Just one correction before I go further. Ponting had 12 not out while dravid had 9. Sorry about the wrong figures clapo. Anyway , the answer to yout question is ponting 17 centuries since that time and dravid 9. Potning average in 2002 was 45 odd and had 3,505 runs I think. Anyways , their record now is that dravid played 104 match while ponting played 105. Mean while , dravid have 1 more innings (176)than punter (175) and dravid have 257 more runs that ponting overall. Punter overall have 24 not outs while dravid have 22 and dravid average is 58.76 and punter own is 58.23 I think but I know its 58 Point something in the 20's. So when you compare there isn't much difference other than the fact that dravid stats in terms of average is better. |
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mAni_paKi
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Posted: 17 August 2006 at 10:36pm |
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well for ur kind info,Muhammad Yousef has also completed his 1000 runs but the fact is that hes not no.3 batsmen 
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 16 August 2006 at 3:39pm |
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Sledger had just posted who he was 2-3 posts before yours.
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Sledger
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Posted: 16 August 2006 at 2:54pm |
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Your ability to show yourself up is unsurpassed on this forum lad - another gem! 
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crownmethod
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Posted: 16 August 2006 at 1:22pm |
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Who the hell is he? |
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Clapo
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Posted: 16 August 2006 at 1:07pm |
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and apart from given the commentators a nightmarish last name to deal with, really did nothing significant from what i can recall!!!! |
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Sledger
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Posted: 16 August 2006 at 9:09am |
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He was and he had more chances than Graeme Hick! |
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dips_december
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Posted: 16 August 2006 at 8:52am |
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Yep right my favourite is Dravid but he is not your favourite is it ?I hate Sehwag but some like him .
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Posted: 16 August 2006 at 8:19am |
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That is exactly true. People are only going to vote for who they like. It's purely based on our own opinions and not facts.
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Sledger
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Posted: 16 August 2006 at 7:07am |
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No we won't! Irrespective of how successful Ponting is in The Ashes , determining who is the better player comes down to personal choice. All these "who's best" threads are purely subjective , we all have our favourites. |
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 7:18pm |
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Dravid might have played more games, but he made 1000 runs which very few bastman are capable of. Ponting still has the Ashes left. We'll se after that whose better.
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 7:15pm |
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Is he even and International player.
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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 12:52pm |
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Nah, Ramps has 2,000..... Edited by Sureshot |
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Clapo
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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 9:14am |
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it would be interesting to see them bat together actually, i honestly don'tthink it would work. Ponting likes to get on with things a little more, and dravid doesn't turn the strike over as much, 1 of them would have to adapt a little, which is not exactly ideal.
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errrrrrrr no he doesn't! How often do you see Dravid launch a short ball over the midwicket fence or over square leg? The simple answer is , he doesn't because he's loathe to play the ball in the air. Both are class acts , but they bat in a totally different manner , which is the real beauty of the game of cricket. |
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Clapo
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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 3:12am |
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nope, only 4 of the tests are before the new year for ponting AK, the sydney test is always in January
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ANIL KUMBLE
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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 2:30am |
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Dravids career average is 58.75 while Punter's is 58.22 so there pretty even but that proves nothing you can't compare two of the greats in this modern era.Dravid is the only batsman this year to play 10 tests thats why he's leading run scorer here are some stats of both players. 2006 stats/batting Ricky Ponting 6 tests,11 innings,2 not out's,802 runs,a highest score of 143*,an average of 89.11,strike rate of 61.12,5 centuries and 2 fifties.So overall that's a great year he's having and his conversion rate from turning fifties into hundreds is simply mind boggling. Rahul Dravid 10 tests,18 innings,4 not out's,1046 runs,a highest score of 146,an average of 74.71,strike rate of 42.67,3 centuries and 7 fifties. Ricky Ponting still has 5 tests to play this year in a 5 match test series against England which I think all 5 tests are before the start of the New Year.While Dravid has 1 test series this year left against South Africa where he plays 2,3 or 4 I can't remember the fixtures. |
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Clapo
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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 2:18am |
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what is their weight of centuries and half centuries Spin ??? that tells a lot |
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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 2:17am |
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not really, wait until the year is out and then count the runs, dravid has played more innings' than anyone else this calendar year thats why he has the most runs. |
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I've checked some stats and this is from january 2003 til now. Ponting average 71 and dravid average 70 but ponting had 16 not outs while dravid only had about 6. All in all , they are both exceptional. Ponting is better at scoring quicker but dravid is better at consistency. As simple as that. Dravid has every shot ponting has and vive versa.
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Clapo
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sehwag no.1 ponting's great form hasn't only been for 3 series, it's been for three years. As i said in my original post in this thread, he's averaged 66 batting at no.3, he cannot get those figures in only three series'
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 14 August 2006 at 7:33pm |
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Yup. But this year till now its Dravid.
1. He has got more votes. 2. He is the only batsman to have scroed 1000 runs this year. |
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i am so tired of people calling ponting the best no. 3 in test cricket or for all cricket in that matter, he had one greeat run of series against SA and bang and after that people were calling him the best batsman of the era, well tendulkar and lara are the best batsman of the era and ponting is not in their league if one more person could join them it would be dravid who has one of the best careers and not be noticed for it, rite now i belive younis khan and sangakarra are in great form
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Posted: 14 August 2006 at 11:48am |
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No you're not the only one there - in fact I also think he is overrated as a captain too |
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Posted: 14 August 2006 at 11:43am |
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True, but he only has 9 Hundreds in over a Hundred Test matches. His conversion from 50s to hundreds is shocking. 18% conversion to 100s if my maths are right (9 100s, 41 50s) |
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Posted: 14 August 2006 at 7:48am |
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Obviously Dravid. I can opt even for Michael Vaughan
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ANIL KUMBLE
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Posted: 14 August 2006 at 7:21am |
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Well 4 of his hundreds are double so once he gets to 100 he's one of the best converters in the world from tons to the double.
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Clapo
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Posted: 14 August 2006 at 7:00am |
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Not somuch overrated as underperformed Sureshot, he is undoubtably a very good batsman, but he consistently gets starts and doesn't go on with them. |
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Not any longer , he bats at 4 now. Ponting is the most destructive of all the number threes in world cricket today. The impetus he brings to the Australian innings can't be underestimated - he's the key and the one guy the opposition just have to target. Younis Khan and Dravid are terrific too - both technically good , but without Ponting's allround strokeplay. I like the look of Alastair Cook - nice temperament and technique . He's still a baby so can't yet be compared to the big three , but I'm sure he'll get there! |
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