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Freddie
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Topic: Anyone Else Tried This?Posted: 07 May 2007 at 4:16pm |
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No I mean my garden patio.
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benkola13
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Posted: 07 May 2007 at 4:09pm |
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By concrete do you mean "all-weather"?
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Pietersen Fan
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Posted: 19 April 2007 at 10:35pm |
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can we open up a new thread called "the joys of concreat in cricket" i think it would be a real hit
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check out the ultimate spinners guide - spinny.co.nr
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 19 April 2007 at 10:21pm |
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i agree with fishy, concrete doesnt spin much at all but you still get plenty of wickets from the weird bounce
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TheOldEnemy
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Posted: 17 April 2007 at 10:51pm |
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i have to say to stop your row Edited by TheOldEnemy - 17 April 2007 at 10:53pm |
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fishcake14
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Posted: 16 April 2007 at 9:13pm |
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Nah, it's just rubbish!
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spin wizard
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Posted: 16 April 2007 at 9:09pm |
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Is it like I described - skiddy? |
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fishcake14
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Posted: 16 April 2007 at 9:08pm |
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That clears it up. We must ahve stupid concrete in Scotland because it has no spin whatsoever.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 16 April 2007 at 8:57pm |
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Some concrete spin more than some. I have played on 2 type of concrete surface and one turned more than the other. One was a bit rougher and the other had like a sheen so the ball skidded. I had real hell batting on it saturday!
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fishcake14
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Posted: 16 April 2007 at 8:38pm |
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Sorry, unless the English concrete is different to Scottish concrete, it doesn't spin.
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TCA123
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Posted: 16 April 2007 at 5:56pm |
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concrete spins a mile
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 12 April 2007 at 4:15pm |
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thats how bedser bowled his leg breaks
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RubberWrist
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Posted: 12 April 2007 at 7:46am |
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If your not getting alot of spin try spreading your fingers less over the seam. If its uncomfortable to hold then bring your fingers in more. I practise on grass and when i go to the nets which are concrete i have to turn it up a bit to get spin.
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revolutions
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Posted: 11 April 2007 at 8:47pm |
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I know some one who bowls leg breaks like that he does not get alot of turn but gets enough, he uses his fingers rather than his wrist |
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fishcake14
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Posted: 11 April 2007 at 2:23pm |
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That is the general coaching method, although some people don't feel comfortable holding the ball across the seam, and a scrambled seam allows for more disguise.
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Whitheand
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Posted: 11 April 2007 at 2:16pm |
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don't you generally grip across the seam, which allows you to impart more spin on it.
Interesting theory, but I'll stick to the orthodox grip for my off-breaks. Might give it a quick try, though. |
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fishcake14
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Posted: 11 April 2007 at 2:06pm |
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And I clearly haven't mastered the quote thing either....
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fishcake14
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Posted: 11 April 2007 at 2:04pm |
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Rubbish! Concrete doesn't grip at all! If you can turn a ball on concrete thn it will spin much more on a decent grass wicket.
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benkola13
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Posted: 10 April 2007 at 7:01pm |
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It might not work on a normal wicket because concrete grips a ball better than grass/ normal wicket. Hope it works out for you, but i'm going to stay with my same grip.
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 10 April 2007 at 6:54pm |
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i used to have that exact same grip a few years ago.
But eventually i lowered my 3rd finger bit. |
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Posted: 10 April 2007 at 12:54pm |
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I might give that a try next time I bowl.
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Freddie
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Posted: 10 April 2007 at 12:39pm |
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As you may know I am an off-break bowler, and because I've never really been able to extract a lot of turn form my off-breaks I've decided to mess about with how I grip the ball, so instead of using a normal grip I've come up with a new style of grip (I've called it the fork grip).
Basically by the fork grip I mean you basically grip the ball in the shape of a fork, you put your middle finger on the seam and your other two fingers on either side of the seam on the sides of the ball, I've tried it and managed to extract quite a bit of turn with the ball on concrete, so I don't know how much turn I can get from it on a normal wicket but I'm fairly confident of it being a decent way to grip the ball.
Because of the way the ball s gripped as well you could in theory use it to bowl off break, leg break, medium pace and maybe even fast bowlers could use it, but I've never seen it used by anyone else and I was wondering if anyone else used it. I think it's a fairly effective way to bowl so try it.
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