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Pietersen Fan 
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 Topic: You be captain!Posted: 09 December 2007 at 11:25pm |
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abit of fun, but i also hope we could all learn something
basically, i'll give a scenerio and you, as captian, tell us what you'd do in that situation. It might be what field you'd set,which type of bowler you'd use, how you'd instruct your bowler to bowl, or how you'd tell your batsmen to bat.
So scenerio 1
Its lunch on day 4 of a test match, your team is currently batting and has lost 4 early wickets in your second innings, the score is 55-4 and you are currently 25 runs behind your opponant.
In the 1st innings you set a score of 340 but then your opponant got 420.
The pitch is turning an average amount but not a great deal, the pitch has relitivly even bounce, and the ball is still coming quite nicely onto the bat. The ball is swinging a small amount.
You currently have batsmen number 3 and 6 in, batsmen number 3 is quite a defensive player, who prefers to play through the offside, batsmen number 6 is an aggresive player, but can also defend quite well.
Next in is batsmen number 7, he is your wicket keeper and has a good technique and is also quite aggresive, after that your tail comes in.
The bowling team are using a companation of a spin bowler at one end and either a swing or seam bowler at the other. All there bowlers are quite good but not world beaters.
So, what do you do??
Do you try and win the game or try and bat out for the draw?
How would you instruct your batsmen to bat??
Any questions about scenorio 1 just ask!!
have fun
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MP12
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Posted: 09 December 2007 at 11:40pm |
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Interesting scenario and thread. What's the weather like?
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Pietersen Fan
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Posted: 09 December 2007 at 11:43pm |
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The weather is currently pleasntly warm, very few counds in the sky, forcast to be like this for the rest of the match.
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canadiancricket
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Posted: 10 December 2007 at 12:49am |
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I as a captain would instruct to completely shut down and play very defensive. play for time. Winning on from here would be mighty difficult anyways. It would also depend if you are currently winning the series or losing or whatever. more questions - do you think you can get the opposition out for under 200.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 10 December 2007 at 12:52am |
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It all depends on who the opposition is. Going for a win against the Aussie would be plain stupid!
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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bondy
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Posted: 10 December 2007 at 12:58am |
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I'd ask the batsman to play their natural game and look to play strokes. If they can bat through and get a lead of 150-200 then that's a competitive total going into day 5. But, it all depends on who you've got in the bowling department and whether they can win a match for you, or not.
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Good one Graham!
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Pietersen Fan
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Posted: 10 December 2007 at 1:12am |
its a tough question and it depends on how good out bowlers are really, also if we have a couple of good spinners that would help on a day 5 pitch.
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The Tyke
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Posted: 10 December 2007 at 1:28am |
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In this scenario I'd get the number 3 to play defensive shots and take the singles to get the aggressive player on strike to the seamer so he can use the pace of the pitch and the even bounce to score some boundaries to up the scoring rate.
Against the spinner I'd tell the batsmen to score big off the loose deliveries such as a long hop, full toss or the slightly wide one that you can swing your arms through. Other than that I'd advise them to rotate the strike to stop the opposition building pressure and to keep the scoreboard ticking over.
I'd say from the position the team is in that the win is unlikely but the loss is more than possible so bat for as much time and as many singles and doubles as possible to get a defendable total for the time remaining.
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Minn hugur er minn sverð (My mind is my sword)
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Niv!
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Posted: 10 December 2007 at 10:07am |
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I'd tell them to bat normally and make a good partnership, but if the next wicket falls, go defensive and bat out the rest of the day. If we get bowled out in the first session of day 5 though, we should a decent lead. I would encourage my bowlers to get wickets and use spinners but if that fails, shut them down until the end of the match.
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Posted: 21 December 2007 at 10:40pm |
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what would you do if your main spin bowler had picked up an injury on a spinners track and couldn't bowl
you have 3 pace bowlers, all very good bowlers, 2 of them bowling seam, and the other a swing bowler
you have 2 part time spin bowlers both bowling off spin
you are leading the test match by 90 runs after the 1st innings
the pitch is not suited to seam bowling and is swinging only a small amount.
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canadiancricket
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Posted: 21 December 2007 at 10:51pm |
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If they are quite good then I would go with main strike bowlers most of the time. I would go with part time bowlers for breakthrough or if one of them is bowling well, then go with him and pace bowler at other end.
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inswinger
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Posted: 22 December 2007 at 2:10pm |
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i would get the two seamers aiming on a good length at off stump. giving no room for shots. when that starts to dry up the runs a little i would bring the better part timer spinner on at one end to try and make the break through with the seamer still attacking off stumpat the other end and bowling as many maidens as possible to try and create wickets for the offie.
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Posted: 22 December 2007 at 3:24pm |
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usually its the other way round ,spinners try to stop the runs at one end and seamers try to take the wickets, but i guess its a fair enough plan
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inswinger
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Posted: 22 December 2007 at 10:45pm |
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yeh but if thers nothing in the pitch for the pacers. mite aswell use the spinner on a track thats turning
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fishcake14
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Posted: 23 December 2007 at 11:33am |
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Depends how good your spinner is as well, all good spinners stop the runs and have a chance of taking wickets. Bad spinners may still have a chance of taking wickets but they won't stop the runs.
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joelza1990
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Posted: 23 December 2007 at 11:35am |
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I think they should play there natural games. Of course be sensible let the good ones through to the keeper, work the singles and put the bad balls away and look for runs. I find with teams that go into shut down the wickets can start falling and if your not making any runs and your loosing wickets then your in bother. So i'd say for them to keep the scoreboard ticking over.
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Monty
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Posted: 23 December 2007 at 11:42am |
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i would tell the no.3 to play a natural defensive game, and tell 6 and 7 to play aggresively but not mental, then when the 6 and 7 are gone, get the no.3 to take control and start playing some shots, tellthe tail to shut up shop and tell the team to aim for around 300-350, if after batmen 6 and 7 are gone, if the team is on less than 250 to play every shot defensivelly, maybe get all out for 250 on lunch at the last day, then bowl spin for 2 whole sessions and aim for the draw
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LethalYorker
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Posted: 23 December 2007 at 5:16pm |
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i would tell number 3 to bat very very slowly and i will tell him to be maily on strike against the spinners and number 6 shud attack the faster bowlers ovbiously not going after everything but since hes aggressive he might be prone to the spinners on a turning track. If a wicket does fall i will tell the wicket keeper to take the defencive job and the other batsmen whos been there at a long period of time shud push the accelarator.
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LethalYorker
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Posted: 23 December 2007 at 5:20pm |
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okay i have a scenario. Its a 50 over match and your team has just finished the innings with 284 on a very good flat wicket with very little assistance for seam and swing and spin, you are now on the field you have 1 extreme 90 mph bowler, 2 medium fast swing bowlers and 1 leg spinner, and one offspinning allrounder. the opposition are off to a flyer at 120-0 after 15 overs. How would you control the situation?
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LethalYorker
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Posted: 23 December 2007 at 5:26pm |
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oh and the figures of your bowlers are as follows:
extras: 5 90 mph quick bowler: 5 overs. 0 maidens 45 runs medium quick bowler 1: 3 overs. 0 maidens. 34 runs medium quick bowler 2: 7 overs 0 maidens 36 runs |
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joelza1990
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Posted: 24 December 2007 at 12:58am |
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Bring a spinner on try and slow the pace of the game. Possibly if you have 2 decent spinners in the attack i might bring on both. And stay patient with the field placings atleast have a field that my spinners can bowl to and have a chance of breaking the partnership and then making some possible inroads.
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LethalYorker
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Posted: 24 December 2007 at 12:39pm |
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okay you bring the two spinners on, the leg spinner strikes straight away removing the openers after 25 overs the leg spinner has bowled 5 overs. 2 wickets for 26 runs, and the offspinner has bowled 5 overs for 30 runs 1 wicket. The score is 170-3 at the half way point........ what happens next?
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spin wizard
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Posted: 24 December 2007 at 2:32pm |
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We don't know.....
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canadiancricket
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Posted: 24 December 2007 at 4:14pm |
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That situation has got out of control plus you have just changed the situation mate. There is not enough information. Like how good the bowlers are. How good the batsman are facing spin and pace. Is the batting line up strong. How good the lower order batsman are. Are they playing with five bowlers ???
 But if the situation is at 170-3 I would keep the spinners on attacking mode and if they pick up a couple more wickets maybe even four if possible. Then bring my fast bowler on to unsettle the lower order. Edited by canadiancricket - 24 December 2007 at 4:15pm |
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LethalYorker
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Posted: 24 December 2007 at 5:42pm |
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the 2 openers were both very aggressive like ( hayden/gilchrist) and the 2 new batsmen number 3 is a defensive player as number 4 is a moderate balanced player with attack and defence. number 5 and 6 are big hitting allrounders and number 7 the keeper. the rest number 8,9,10,11 are the tail.
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canadiancricket
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Posted: 24 December 2007 at 6:31pm |
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This situation is something I like to call an average Australian day and they will demolish the opposition. No way to control it. They are going to win in a canter. What's the series result right now. If we have already lost the series. I would give it a go by playing aggressively and take a chance of winning as we would lose anyhow. Field placing will be aggressive and I would bring back my fast bowler to compliment the spinner as you never know he might reverse swing and could take wickets just on pace as the players are big hitting ones.
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canadiancricket
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Posted: 24 December 2007 at 6:44pm |
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Here's my scenario:
It is a test match. The pitch is totally bowler friendly but the opposition comes and scores 400 and bowls you out for less than 100 and enforces follow on. There are about 25 overs left in the second day but your opener plays quite aggressively and scores some valuable runs but in process loses his wicket and the score at the end of day is 125 - 1. Rain is expected for all three days but in small amounts but it would be cloudy. 70 overs can be bowled every day. You went in with 4 bowlers, 1 bowling all rounder and your WK can bat well. Opposition bowlers are nothing out of ordinary but they are capable of taking those 10 remaining wickets. You have two greats in your team. One of them is a bowler who was injured on first day but will recover and play on day four. Another player is a batsman who remained not out in the first innings too scoring 53. Your team is just slightly better than the opposition but luck hasn't favoured your team as 4 run outs resulted in first innings and some plumb decisions didn't go your way. The series is 1-1 in three test match series. What would you do? |
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Posted: 24 December 2007 at 11:17pm |
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