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    Posted: 08 January 2006 at 2:43am
Shoaib is the best because of his accuracy and style of bowling he has.lee has a straight arm action and batsman can easily pick out his deliveries but its very hard to have about shoaib What he is going to bowl.So personaly feel that shoaib is the best
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Personally you are a fool. Shoaib is unfit, inconsistent, lacks control, cannot maintain speeds like Lee for a longer periods of time, and has more stamina and cannot bowl for very long spells.

Lee is more consistent, quicker more consistenly (Shoaib can bowl some really quick balls, but doesnt bowl a lot of them, Lee higher average speeds), Lee has greater control, a better yorker, a better bouncer, he is extremely fit and has high stamina and can bowl for long periods of time. Not a great fielder, weak arm, slowish. Only slogs, usually unsuccessfully..can't defend for long periods of time.

In the outfield Lee has a much stronger arm, is extermely fast and is an all round good fielder with safe hands. He offers a lot more with the bat and averages 20 in bothe forms of the game and can he the ball further then just about anyone else. Has a good eye. Much stronger defence then Akhtar.

IN my opinion Lee is far better and offers more to his side.
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The poll does not make any sense whatsoever.
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Lee has a better record but shoab is more dangerous i believe. This
makes no sense anyway.
My two favourite Batsmen:
Jacques Kallis is a very solid but destructive batsmen and not to mention he can bowl as well.
I also like Michael Clarke for his amazing batting talent at such a young age
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Lee is better, for sure. He also has longer in his career, Lee has a better attitude, isnt full of himself and he is fitter and 1 yr younger
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what does this  poll mean?
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I have no idea.
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shoaib is more destuctive. his face itself scares u. he is better and faster.
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Well warney Bret Lee is a good bowler and i admit is also a better batsman than shoaib but just look at this:

The LG ICC Test Bowling Rankings

Batsmen » Bowlers All-rounders
1 Glenn McGrath AUS
2 Muttiah Muralitharan SL
3 Shane Warne AUS
4 Shoaib Akhtar PAK
5 Andrew Flintoff ENG
6 Makhaya Ntini SA
7 Chaminda Vaas SL
8 Anil Kumble IND
9 Andre Nel SA
10 Irfan Pathan IND
Top 100 »

and then this:

Bowling averages for Brett Lee

class  mat  balls  runs  wkts  bbi  bbm  ave  econ  sr  4  5  10
Tests   49   10120   6118   192   5/30   8/123   31.86   3.62   52.70   10   6   0
ODIs   117   5931   631   211   5/27   5/27   21.94   4.68   28.10   8   4

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Bowling averages for akhtar
class  mat  balls  runs  wkts  bbi  bbm  ave  econ  sr  4  5  10
Tests   39   7098   3987   161   6/11   11/78   24.76   3.37   44.08   8   12   2
ODIs   129   6060   4686   199   6/16   6/16   23.54   4.63   30.45   4   4   0

 

shoaib has better average and economy in test and an economy in ODI.

Lee may above akhtar in odis but you are the one who said that it's all about who can perform well in longer spells and be consistent. Well my friend i believe that in test cricket a bowler bowls much longer than in an odi so akhtars stats in test just prove that in the longer version of the game he actually is more consistent and a better bowler than Brett Lee.
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Pakistan's Shoaib Akhtar races in to bowl during the third ODI against Australia, played at the Gabba in Brisbane. The spirited paceman finished with 5/25, spearheading Pakistan to a 2-1 series victory

which bowler really looks the more fiercest.
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Well, the rankings show that Ponting is currently better than Inzamam and I don't agree with them...mostly everyone else does. And the rankings say that Shoaib is better than Lee, and I don't completely agree with them. But all you ranking supporters (uhum...MiNiWaRnEy), IN YOUR FACE! The rankings say that Shoaib is better than Lee, so he must be!!!!!
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i dont neccessaril support ramnking. LEE has just come back into Test Cricket this summer Saad and he is excellent form and only aveaging 22 with ball in like 7 matches, thats is excellent, he had to compete to get a spot with Michael Kasprowicz, Gillespie, McGarth for fast bowlers role in team. He only just came back and he is performing. If you look at his ODI record it is awesome because he has been able to play without his place in jeaporedy.

So how in teh world can LEE be No.4 on the list if he only just came back to tests, if u look at the rankings then he would have rose up dramatically.
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Sooo, you're saying that Shoaib has been in the team and has been playing every match for the past year? Well, then you haven't even been keeping with as much cricket as me...and I only started cricket in march of 2005.

Shoaib also just got back to the team, and he got back to the team after Lee. Lee was in the ashes in the 2005 summer and every Australian test series after that.

Shoaib got back to the Pakistan team in November.
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Yes but LEE was out of team for 18 MONTHS!!

Shoaib played in more games in that 18 months then Lee did.

Shoaib has missed a lot of games, but he has played more tests in the last 2 years then Lee.

Lee has playeed 10 more matches (tests) the Shaoib, Lee fitter. Shoaib is too obsessed woth his fat ass and ego, and getting past 100 mph mark.

Im my XI Lee any day over Shoaib allround. Bowling, Batting and Fielding Lee is better.
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Now I've seen some dumb polls before , but this takes the cake!!

We need better policing of this site , some of the stuff here is cretinous!!
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I am sorry for that.Infact  it was my first experience.Can someone tell me that how can i change opinion poll.

 



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It's ok, I'll delete it. Polls are useless, and they don't work anyway.
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Yes its true that its much harder to pick Shoiab than Lee but recently both have bowling well bt i say Lee is better he doesn't go for as much runs as Shoiab goes for
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Well, I too think that Lee is better but the rankings say that Shoaib is better...
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shoiab has to be better he should what he can do against england and now will show you again against england
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You mean he will show us again against India not England.

He performed well against England and right now I don't rank Lee higher than him. I hope he performs well against India.
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Shoaib is best because of his action which makes batsman confused.he is only fast bowler in Pakistan's bowling attack who can destroy strong batting line ups of other team but unfortunately Pakistan could not support him because they made batting trakes in Pakistan and That is why Shoaib Perform well in out countries.And Brett lee perform well in his own country.What you say mate?

 
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Shoaib is better than Lee, just have a look at the records. Test matches show real strength of a bowler. But anyway, i dont support such useless polls.

But never mind Qasi, it aways happen when u r doing somehting new. Keep the good spirits and you would definately improve, as the time goes on. Just dont get skeptical.
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Originally posted by -JP-

It's ok, I'll delete it. Polls are useless, and they don't work anyway.

I think U forgot to delete the topic, or u have changed ur mind?
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I deleted the poll, not the topic.
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Shoaib shoudn't be blamed for not performing well in the ongoing Pakistan/India Test series, but he should be blamed for getting yet another injury.

This time its an ankle problem and he is doubtful for the third test. I hate his fitness problems.
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hes a fast bowler maybe if he shortened his run-ups he wouldnt constantly do an injury
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Maybe if he was lighter...I don't know.

What exactly is his problem? Why does he keep getting injuries??

They say he is unfit but in what way is he unfit?? Is he too fat??


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hey i think brett lee is much better more accurate and faster. shoaib bowls at only 140 and only once he went past 160 and lee has been bowling continuosly at 150-155. in an odi match against the kiwis he bowled a ball at 160 kmh.
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Everybody has different view. So dont dispute. They both are quicker, fast and furious. Its difficult to face both of them anyway.
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