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Jamie
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Topic: Trigger Movements.Posted: 25 March 2007 at 7:17pm |
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Anybody have one?
I cannot stay still at the crease while the bowler is running in, I have to make a step or two.
I bat on leg and just shuffle across and forwards onto around middle.
Always on the front foot, my strength.
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NewBowler
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Posted: 26 March 2007 at 12:14am |
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My trigger movement is a slight step out with the front foot, which opens up the field for different shots. |
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Posted: 26 March 2007 at 9:22am |
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My back leg goes slightly back and across, then I start transferring my weight onto the front foot which gets me into line and ready to get onto the front foot
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Chin Music
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Posted: 26 March 2007 at 1:42pm |
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I wait for the ball before moving, but then I'm quite flat-footed. Mentally, my instinct is to go forward. What does everyone think on the merits and disadvantages of having a trigger movement? I'm thinking of experimenting with one to improve my footwork.
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Posted: 26 March 2007 at 3:00pm |
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to my mind the benefit is that light on my feet (as it were) as opposed to having my feet rooted to the spot as the ball is on its way
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Kerm
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Posted: 26 March 2007 at 3:30pm |
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Any really batting coach would probably consider what i do as the ball
is about to be bowled as a sin, I dance around on my toes a bit i've
always done it to keep my feet moving so i dont get caught on the spot
but technecially its probably not a good idea. Seeing as I only play
sunday cricket I doubt its a technecial flaw thats going to be exposed
massivly however.
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 26 March 2007 at 5:07pm |
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i have the exactly opposite problem evrytime the bowler bowls [fast bowler] i get scared and move back.
Also no matter how much i practice playing with my top hand in front of my mirror i always end up playing with my bottom hand during matches. Please advise. |
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scuudz
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Posted: 26 March 2007 at 5:18pm |
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My trigger movement is just a slight movement of my feet while they are in one spot i.e I do not take a slight step forward or back but try to keep my feet moving. It gives me the feeling that I gain that split second in going forward or back. Its probably just a psychological thing but hey it works for me.
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Chin Music
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Posted: 27 March 2007 at 1:09pm |
Tell that to Shivranine Chanderpaul... I don't know exactly what you mean by "dancing around", but if you simply mean shifting your weight slightly from foot to foot, I think that's perfectly sound technique. i can't say I've seen any first-class players do it, but plenty of good club cricketers do, and technique does differ slightly between the two. My father, for example, has always done it, he learnt his cricket at a top private school and has played to a high level of club cricket Edited by Chin Music - 27 March 2007 at 1:09pm |
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Posted: 27 March 2007 at 1:16pm |
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I'm tempted to start jumping about in the crease. Might be fun.
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Jamie
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Posted: 27 March 2007 at 5:00pm |
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It's worth a try, honestly.
The Pro out our club played England Under 19 against Chanderpaul, when he was 19 he played completely straight, perfect MCC manual stance etc, but he just changed it and it's worked. Whatever is natural works best. I don't think you should deliberatly put a trigger movement in, it's just if it feels natural to you.
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 27 March 2007 at 6:02pm |
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can anyone please answer my question which was posted earlier in this topic
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Clobber
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Posted: 28 March 2007 at 10:18am |
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try loosening your grip with the bottom hand
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Posted: 28 March 2007 at 10:42am |
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To us ole timers a Trigger movement was always cleaned up by Roy Rogers!
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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bondy
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Posted: 28 March 2007 at 11:00am |
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I've experimented with different triggers in the nets. I used to shuffle across my stumps from leg to middle, but felt myself playing to on-sidish and getting out LBW.
I now put my weight on my front-foot and try and get foward as much as possible, while keeping upright. This allows me to rock back into the back foot if needed and is especially useful when playing against spin.
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Good one Graham!
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 28 March 2007 at 11:18am |
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i keep trying to loose my bottom hand grip but it
suddenly tightens towards the end. |
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bondy
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Posted: 28 March 2007 at 11:22am |
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Must be your aggressive nature.
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Good one Graham!
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Posted: 28 March 2007 at 4:35pm |
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I have the same problem. Someone suggested to me that in the nets I should try playing a few one handed drives, just using the top hand to get the muscles to learn the movement. If you keep your right hand off the bat it can't tighten up and take over. When you've got used to doing a few like that you can put your bottom hand back, but all it should be doing is adding some control.
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I swing both ways - but only when I'm bowling!
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Chin Music
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Posted: 28 March 2007 at 4:55pm |
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I was always to bottom-handed, a couple of years ago I changed my grip and it really helped, what I do is I rest the handle accross the knuckles/fingers of the bottom hand then grip with the thumb rather than holding it in the palm. Try it, it might help
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yorker101
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Posted: 29 March 2007 at 10:47am |
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first i would like to say, this is a brilliant thread... great idea!!
and i would'nt be to worried about first movements... look at kevin peitersen. a brilliant batsmen and one of my favourite players (but i don't go for the poms) he fidgets around like he's doing the ''hokey pokey''. from a more selfish point of view i tend to move my front foot ever so slightly forward. i think thats because i am a big fan on driving an cutting off the front foot though...
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i didn't have anything to put here, so i put this...
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bondy
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Posted: 29 March 2007 at 11:33am |
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Which of you prefer to play off the back foot? Or more conventionally the front foot?
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Good one Graham!
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Chin Music
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Posted: 29 March 2007 at 1:19pm |
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I like to play in the V
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 29 March 2007 at 1:21pm |
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k, thanks rambo and chin music i'll try what you've written
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Jamie
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Posted: 29 March 2007 at 4:38pm |
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I'm Definatly a front foot player. I'm not shabby on the back foot, but I'm very good on the front foot, not trying to sound big headed.
It's easily the biggest strength in my game, I love driving the ball.
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Rambo_123UK
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Posted: 30 March 2007 at 6:26pm |
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I'm not much of a batsman, I'm a bowler. When I'm batting I'm predominantly back foot though. Against the quicker bowlers I'll defend until there's something outside off stump (if I last that long!) to have a go at cutting. I don't mind pulling the odd long-hop if I get a chance, too, but I love taking on the spinners. My favourite shot is the slog-sweep but I'll look to smack every ball into the next county when there's twirly stuff coming at me. Shot selection depends on where the ball pitches as I'm just as happy rocking back and smashing it, but I do love the slog-sweep. It's entirely instinctive, I never think about it. On our home pitch if you get hold of it at all it's going over the wall into the sheep even if you mistime it slightly.
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I swing both ways - but only when I'm bowling!
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Jamie
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Posted: 30 March 2007 at 8:03pm |
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Well, having just started using my trigger movement slightly more obvious. And taking a new guard on leg stump then moving onto Middle.
I had a great night at Training Tuesday. It's the first time I have trained with the adults, 1st and 2nds mostly, as this season I'll be playing second team. I was driving really well especially and playing off the back foot nicely as well, made an impression which aint bad.
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Posted: 30 March 2007 at 8:12pm |
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I look to get on the front foot as much as possible. Love driving the ball. Dont have any problems playing off the back foot either though. Just more comfortable on the front foot.
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tommyboy
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Posted: 06 April 2007 at 8:29pm |
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i dnt have a trigger movement because last year i had one n i thought it was harder to keep balance playin ma shots
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Rambo_123UK
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Posted: 18 April 2007 at 5:58pm |
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Re front foot shots - I had a net the other day with a couple of the lads and they pointed out my initial stance was wrong. That meant that whatever initial move I made, however hard I tried to get my front foot to the pitch to play a straight drive, I was always going to be off balance. Get one of the batsmen in the team who knows what he's doing to take a look at you. It could be the same thing. By the end of the session I was smashing the ball straight back over the bowler's head, something I've never been able to do before. All it was was a case of shifting the position of my feet a couple of inches each way as I stood at the crease.
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I swing both ways - but only when I'm bowling!
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Posted: 29 April 2007 at 2:55pm |
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My Trigger Movement Is When The Bowler Is Just Bowl I Slightly Tap My Left Foot Couple Off Times... It Is Impossable 4 me 2 Stay Still
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