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    Posted: 23 February 2005 at 2:27pm
Last year in a series between India and Pakistan Virendher Sehwag scored 309 against Pakistan, making him the first ever Indian to score a triple century in a Test innings believe it or not. That now means that all major Test playing nations apart from South Africa and New Zealand have had a player register an Interntaional triple ton for them. New Zealand have come as close as it is possible to score one without actually doing so with Martin Crowe making it 299 before being dismissed and Graeme Smith just recently set a new South African record for the highest ever score by a South African player in a Test Innings by recording 277 against England last year. The question that i ask is which one of these two nations will have a player reach 300 first. It is inevitable that it will happen eventually (especially with the game going the way it is at the moment and it being a batsman's game) but the question is who and how soon. It is my belief now that New Zealand (at the moment) don't really have anybody capable of making a truly huge score of say 300 or so (they do have players capable of hitting a double hundred or two maybe) and they may not possibly make one for a while, especially with their pitches in New Zealand being tough hard fast wickets with aid the quicks more than the batsmen. So they may well have to wait until the next time they tour the sub-continent. South Africa on the other hand i think do have players capable of reaching this sort of a score with Smith having come pretty close last year (a couple of years ago Stephen Flemming did come close to with a score of 274 against Sri Lanka but i don't think he has another big score in him) and Gibbs also more than capable of scoring heavily. Kallis too can certainly concentrate for long periods of time and score heavily but for some reason he just hasn't been able to go on from sort of getting to 150 and through to about the mid 170's and going on to make a double ton (which is still hard to believe.) However i do think he will convert a century into a double hundred eventually and possibly even go on to make a score of 250+ (i think that is maybe the only flaw of his game so far that he hasn't managed to go on to get a big score yet.) Also with the series against Zimbabwe coming up shortly i don't think there is a better time for him to go on now to score heavily (if he is selected and not rested) and possibly for the team to eventually find that score of 300. I think they may struggle to find a better chance for a long long time. For that reason i predict that it will indeed be South Africa to have a player to make it to 300 first and i think it may well come in this series against Zimbabwe which is about to start. i usually bet and gamble on cricket quite a bit (not something i'm particularly proud of) and imanaged to find odds of 10/1 for a South African player to score a triple ton in the series against Zimbabwe and i did put my money where my mouth is and put £100.00 on it, so i guess if there's any slight insentive for me to watch this series this is it. As for the rest of the world well, Australia lead the way as far triple centuries scored go, with 6 and the West Indies and England then follow with both of them having had 4 scored by a player of their nation in an international match. Sir Donald Bradman and Brian Lara are the only two to have scored more than one (two each) and have both incredibly scored both their 300+ scores at the one ground, Lara at St Johns recriational ground in Antigua and Bradman at Headingly in England. Lara has both of his at home (what is home for him) and Bradman both of his overseas. All four of them came against England! Bradman also has a score of 299 not out to go with his 2 scores of 300+. Also Brian Lara is of course the only player to get a Test match score of 400 in an innings. I think that Brian Lara may well go on to surpass Bradman and i think he just about has one more 300 knock left in him as hard as it is believe and i think he will manage to get it again when he is under pressure and has his back truly up against the wall. Of any of the other players who have scored one (current players) i think only possibly Matthew Hayden has one more left in him as he has a lot of time in which to get it, he still has a good few years left in his career and he plays in such a great side that he has the free will to score as pleases and at his own pleasure really most of the time. Sehwag i don't think will manage to get another one as i just don't think he is good enough and i don't think Sanath Jaysuriya now has enough time in his career. Inzamam...well i suppose its possible. So anyway any predictions as to who will score a triple ton first out of the two major Test playing nations left not to have gotten one and out of the current players who have one who if anyone do you think can go on to possible get another one? I might just add one more question into the mix, which player do you think is most likely to go on to score his first triple ton? I think Ricky Ponting would be a huge candidate and possibly even Justin Langer as we all know that he can certainly bat for long periods of time and he is in the form of his life. Graeme Smith...well maybe but if he;s going to get it i think he has better play in both Tests against Zimbabwe. A while back i may have said Andrew Strauss too but he seems to fall apart like Kallis when he makes it to the 150 stage.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 February 2005 at 3:22pm

Interesting stuff - I think you're right, I can't see anyone currently scoring a triple ton for New Zealand, so I think it would have to be South Africa, especially with them playing against Zimbabwe. If a Gibbs, Smith or Kallis get themselves well set then who knows?

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2005 at 11:49am
I reckon it could be on the cards next time South Africa play Bangladesh at home, if no-one does it against Zimbabwe. But even for the best players 200 is usually enough, unless they have the incentive of a specific record to go for.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2005 at 3:29pm
Hehe i think you're a bit naive tailender. I used to play cricket when i was younger and believe me as a batsmen i used to care about records and statistics and 99% of all cricketers want to put their own personal success ahead of their team's. I know it sounds a bit selfish but believe me its the case and anybody who tells you otherwise (that they don't care about their own achievements) is lying. The only type who don't actually care who are those who have already achieved it all individually and whose team don't win anything, all the others do want to go on to make those huge scores. I haven't ever played at the highest level, but at domestic level in a four day exhibition match i did make 242 not out and i was desperate to go on to make it to at least 250 and then 300 (i would have been the first ever person to make a score of 250+ from within my district in a 4 day exhibition match) but i couldn't do it. Granted i did make 242 and it is a big score but i was trully devastated not to make the 250. Believe me, especially in the game today 200 is not enough to just say okay i've batted well enough and scored well enough, especially with records at 375 - 400 existing. We're not selfish or anything, just proud and want to be the best, its the competetive edge in proffessional sport and it keeps everybody hungry for more. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2005 at 3:36pm
Yup you're right, even though players won't admit it, they're always wanting to improve their own statistics - whilst I never achieved anything like the scores you did when I played at school JALRC, I remember that in a house competition, in two heavy defeats I top scored with scores of 6, and 16. It's stupid, as obviously I was gutted that we lost but I was chuffed I'd scored more than anyone else on my team. Completely natural in sport.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 February 2005 at 3:52pm
Yeah believe me i know what you feel there. There was an invitational i was invited to play in (it was for charity and everyone who participated were players from years gone by, and very good ones at that) but there were also some honoroury guests who hadn't actually played at the highest level but did show a keen interest in the game and offered to donate a significant sum of money to the charitable organisations concerned, like me for example. I played 2 matches out of 6, and of the two we won one and lost one. In the one we lost i took 4 catches and that was the most in a single match in the entire tournament and i was ecstatic as there were some great slip fielders and outfield run savers playing in that tournament. Well they were great in their day anyway, some had lost a bit of that edge that they had when they were still playing, but still great players never the less. In the end i only averged 4 with the bat and we didn't progress past the first round but those catches made it all worthwhile in the end. Unfortunately i never got to play in school as i grew up in America but when i came here for vacations over the years i used to practice a bit in the nets and i even played a couple of games for the MCC later on when i became a member. I don't even remember what i scored or even what the results were, i was that honored just to be playing. those are the sort of memories i will never ever forget.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 March 2005 at 9:46pm
In the end the series between Zimbabwe and South Africa didn't produce a triple ton or even a double ton but Jaques Kallis did hit the quickest Test 50 of all time and Zimbabwe were given the maulling we expected them to get.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2005 at 7:27am
Originally posted by JALRC

In the end the series between Zimbabwe and South Africa didn't produce a triple ton or even a double ton but Jaques Kallis did hit the quickest Test 50 of all time and Zimbabwe were given the maulling we expected them to get.


Yes JAL , no triple tons anywhere , but a lightning 50 by Kallis! So one hundred quid in the out column - get it back with interest by taking SA to whitewash WI in this series !!


   .........talking of triple tons - THE best effort was undoubtably Graham Gooch's triple at LOrds against India in 1990 ! He backed that up with another hundred in the 2nd innings - the only cricketer to score a triple and a ton in the same test !!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2005 at 9:29am

Originally posted by Inducker

 
   .........talking of triple tons - THE best effort was undoubtably Graham Gooch's triple at LOrds against India in 1990 ! He backed that up with another hundred in the 2nd innings - the only cricketer to score a triple and a ton in the same test !!

I believe that match gave him the record for average runs in a match by one player.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2005 at 11:45am
I think what you mean JP is that gave him the record for the most amount of total aggregate runs scored in a match by a single player, yes which it did of a net total 456 which beat the previous record that Gregg Chappel held of a score of 380 in match against New Zealand in 1973. It also of course gave Gooch the record of the highest individual score ever made at Lords beating Donald Bradman's 254. As for whether its the greatest triple ton of all time? No i don't think so, i think Bradman's 309 at Headingly was the single greatest ever cricket innings ever produced and it would take something truly spectacular to top that. I mean come on he scored 300 runs in a day!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2005 at 11:47am
Incidently in response to your other question i would have said a few bowling records may have been set but that of course would have only been the case had Shaun Pollock been playing. I guess the odd double ton is not out of the question too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2005 at 2:34pm

Yup; that's exactly what I meant, don't know why I typed average instead of aggregate.

And Bradman's 300 in a day has to be the best innings of all time.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2005 at 11:42pm
I think we all spoke to soon...the records seem to be going the other way with Hinds looking to make it to 200 and already 3 partnership records broken! This is hilarious now the South African's can't even beat reserve teams!
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