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TCA123 
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 Topic: Twenty20 good or bad?Posted: 30 June 2006 at 10:15pm |
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Well i think this is quite an interesting discussion (apolagies if i've missed a topic like this) Who believes Twenty20 is good for cricket as a whole. Many coaches believe it is teaching youngsters to hit across the line and not play straight. Another view is that it can only add to the demise of the spinner as they are so frequently attacked with short boundaries. As well as this some say it's making Test cricket a faster, more eventful spectacle with more and more batsmen of the Pieterson and Gilchrist ilk. What is your view on twenty20? |
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crick
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Posted: 30 June 2006 at 11:16pm |
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in twenty 20, if you swipe across the line, its still a bad shot, i think its great cuase people are learning that if you play the shot well enough you can consistently clear the ropes! so it can be quite a safe shot to play, e.g. the pull it also teaches people to come up with new ways to attack, both from bowling and batting, e.g. spinners variation, quickes and slower ball, batting learning new shots, give your self room and try premeditate a shot etc so all in all i say its GOOD! |
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dips_december
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Posted: 01 July 2006 at 5:30am |
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I think we had a similar thread which was locked after quite a good no of replies but i think 20Twenty is good and bad for batsmen and bowlers respectively
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slogger72N/O
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Posted: 01 July 2006 at 2:57pm |
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Well I think twenty20's quite good for batsmen, as they can come into a test when they need say 100 off the last 20 with 7 wickets in hand. For bowlers, spinners go for a lot, but they get some wickets to, just look at Udal last night. |
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TCA123
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Posted: 02 July 2006 at 8:58pm |
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I read that thread, it doesnt really discuss tha positives and negatives of such a competition. I agree with Crick that it does make Batsmen and Bowler alike improve their game and come up with new ways to attack. On the other hand i'm particulary worried about what effect it will have on spin bowlers. They just arn't given the protection with short boundires and such nowadays. |
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crick
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Posted: 02 July 2006 at 9:54pm |
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in a way it can show the good spinners from the great spinners, i.e. you will be able to find you next international spinner from this comp, and you will see which ones cant cut the mustard!
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sachin_fan
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Posted: 03 July 2006 at 12:55am |
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It is good as exitement in this sport increases
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Some people say cricket is a game but I think it is a religion
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TCA123
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Posted: 03 July 2006 at 3:04pm |
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It's good to see the increased interest in Cricket. For those who managed not to be inspired by the ashes, they now have tense night matches with 6s and almost every ball cannoning into the boundary! Who doesn't like twenty20!
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Posted: 05 July 2006 at 7:39am |
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I don't like it. It can teach batsman bad habits and the bowlers would take a beating and that could lower their confidence and cause them to under-peform.
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ozzie001
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Posted: 05 July 2006 at 7:44am |
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I'm not sure how serious they take it in other domestic competions but in Australia one of our great professional football players will play a proper (for competion points) Tweny/20 match for NSW this season. I would equate it to David Beckham have a game for Surrey (or another county team). This tells me how seriously Twenty/20 is taken.
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Ck_spin
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Posted: 06 July 2006 at 10:50pm |
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what's next?? cricketers playing football?? |
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crick
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Posted: 06 July 2006 at 11:15pm |
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you mean like vuaghan did in the charity match a few years ago?
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Clobber
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Posted: 07 July 2006 at 9:09am |
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Not quite the same thing as the Andrew Johns situation.
Anyway I'd bet there are plenty of footballers who are excellent cricketers. In fact recently here they had a "sporting all stars" match at Leicester featuring players from Leicesters cricket, football, rugby and speedway teams and apparently a couple of the lads were more than useful. |
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Posted: 07 July 2006 at 9:25am |
Quite a few South African cricketers were highly skilled in other sports Clobs. Herschelle Gibbs was a fantastic Fly Half , brilliant sprinter and terrific footballer. He wanted to pursue football , but his Dad talked him around and he took up cricket. Many here saw him as a future Springbok Fly Half too , he was that talented. Jaques Kallis was also a fine fly half and could have taken that route instead of cricket. Peter Kirsten played both rugby and cricket . In 1974 he played fly half against Willie John McBride's Lions for The Impalas , effectively the Junior Springboks. Kepler Wessels was a fine tennis player and boxer. He regularly beat Johan Kriek , who made plenty of dosh from tennis. |
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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crick
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Posted: 07 July 2006 at 11:14am |
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i thought jaques kallis was a flanker, but maybe its just cuase of his build! yeah herschell gibbs was in the SA schools teams for rugby, footie and cricket! jonty rhodes also played for the full SA hockey team, AB devilliers was something like a 2 handicap at the age of 12! and a fine rugby player too |
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Posted: 07 July 2006 at 11:31am |
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Great going from Mr Gibbs!
Given how brilliant Phil Neville supposedly was at cricket I wonder if sometimes he wishes he'd opted for that over football. I suppose not having got to play for Man Utd and over 40 England caps in his bag - and you make far more money from football |
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TCA123
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Posted: 10 July 2006 at 9:57pm |
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as a man utd fan myself, i only wish he had chosen cricket instead of subjecting utd fans to his horrendously boring displays for us. |
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Posted: 11 July 2006 at 9:20am |
He is a big lad , but nothing special for a South African! He went to Wynberg High School and ex-classmates often talk of penalties converted from his own half when he was 15 ! 
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Posted: 11 July 2006 at 9:22am |
Yes Clobs and he's reportedly a champion Jack Daniels and Coke man now too (I kid you not!!) |
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Posted: 19 July 2006 at 4:27pm |
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Has this conversation totally deterioated from twenty20 good or bad to what South African players could have chsoen as a career? Anyway, obviously Twenty20 is having a good impact on the game both for counties (who are earning more money) and for the game as it brings the kids ainto the game. And more people interested in the game. The more chance of finding a new star player. Twenty20 is helping to bring back the love of cricket to the West Indies. As in the other thread it explains about Stanford 2020. There doesn't really appear to be a downside to it apart from some people who think it is aimlessly slogging and not "proper cricket". Others, when they see a twenty20 match then go to a test match and start to get frustrated by the amount of time between each boundary. These in my opinion aren't proper cricket fans.
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Posted: 23 July 2006 at 12:18pm |
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I read that clubs get more revenue from one night of Twenty20 than 2 and half seasons of County Matches. On that case its an amazing increase in funds for clubs which can only improve facilities and such. I can sit and watch and entire day's test coverage only moving for food so i love both aspects of the game. But i prefer tests because it's proper cricket with more analysis and meaning. |
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Posted: 28 July 2006 at 11:34am |
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Twenty Twenty has to be good as it is encouraging people to get involved with Cricket and surely some people could then develop an interest in all forms of cricket
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footballers playing cricket. Very funny.