West Indies in India (2011)

You guys may not see Gayle for the rest of his career on the international scene......

Originally posted by spin wizard You guys may not see Gayle for the rest of his career on the international scene......

To be fair he deserved it and Milky Windies have so many good players that they can easily be in top 3 and should be but some times talent is not enough just think of this lineup:

Gayle
Barath
Bravo
Sarwan
Chanderpaul
Bravo
Baugh
Sammy
Edwards
Bishoo
Rampaul/Roach





Edited by mystery - 09 November 2011 at 1:58pm

India batted well I thought, it wasn't going to be that easy on a wicket like that batting last but they made it easily in the end. the thing is that Indian players feel confident that they can chase down anything on their own wickets something which was missing in England.

Windies has a good bowling attack, Sehwag is really the only one who will really dash them all over the park.  Gambhir will struggle against West Indies as long as bowlers like Edwards and Rampaul exist.  When he comes in, they seriously let go some for his throat.  And for the longest time, India are wasting their time by not using Kohli in Test Cricket.  The kid is too good to be sitting out.  Yuvraj & Raina only bat well when they are playing naturally - they are curbing that in Test Cricket and that's their problem!

Yeah.  I also like Rahane - maybe too early to judge but he seems awefully talented.  He and Kohli should be 2 future fixture in the team.

Bravo got injured before he even took part for Windies A team.  The seniors needed a wake up, they surely are getting it here.  If Sarwan and Bravo does comeback, they'll know not to let their talent go to waste.

The Windies bowling attack now is much more consistent than before.  Even Sammy is doing very good in Test Cricket with the ball for this year.  Rampaul and Edwards has been having a really good year too.  Bishoo for me, has been the big reason for the improved bowling efforts.  Normally at times when Taylor and Edwards gave a good start, no wicket taking spinner is there to continue.  Bishoo has been doing that.

Kohli, Rohit Sharma, Pujara and Rahane should be higher than Yuvraj in the pecking order.

Although I disagreed BP, I think Raina is even luckier than Yuvraj. Raina shouldn't even be in the India A side in the longer format.

Rohit Sharma is a really frustrating player. He bats with ease and he seems to have ages to play the ball but still manages to get out at critical times when he should be converting starts. We saw glimpses of what he is capable of in the WI ODI series and as usual, in the IPL. If he retains that flair but also adds caution to his game, he will be a mainstay in the Indian ODI and Test line-up. At the moment though, I agree with mystery that he shouldn't be in the Test side.

Mikey - yep, agree with Kohli, Rahane and Pujara. However, I still think Yuvraj is luckier than Raina. Firstly, Raina has only played 15 or so Tests whereas Yuvraj has 35+ for a not too dissimilar average. Secondly, Raina is young and India were probably keen on a young talent filling the no. 6 slot so you can understand why he has been persisted with. Yuvraj, on the other hand, is 30 and they still keep playing him in the desperate hope that his ODI skills will somehow come to bear in the longer format.

Their treatment of Badrinath is woeful. He gets a working over by Steyn in a couple of Tests and is then sent away. Keeps scoring runs in FC cricket and again there are calls for him to return to the Test side. Instead, he plays one T20I against WI and gets MoM, fails a couple of times in the ODIs and doesn't get a go in the Tests (his skill in the longer form being the main reason why he was initially picked in the squad). Just baffling. If you pick a guy to be in the team mainly for Tests then it's silly to not play him based on his performance in ODIs.

Mikey - Raina shouldn't be playing international Test cricket but he is still a vital part of the Indian T20 and ODI set-up. I assume you were referring only to Tests and not all forms of international cricket.

Raina is actually not a very good player but he clicks in ODI's because the tracks these days are very batting friendly. In tests or in ODI's on fast bouncy surfaces or Green tracks Raina will never succeed, what I mean is that you will not find Raina scoring a 100 (even in ODI's) when the total score is 200 - 220 all out, or scoring a match winning 70 odd with the final score reading 160/8.

Yeah, Kohli, Rahane and Pujara seems the best of the 3 that would succeed.  Rohit has a lot of talent but I remember Symonds saying he's a bit too lazy or something like that, so he tends to relax too much.  For all batsmen that has emerged lately, none has as much time to play as Rohit, usually a sign of someone to become very good but he has been a big let down.

And lastly, West Indians are nuts.  Despite Sammy performing in test matches for the year, they are still saying he should not be playing blah blah blah.  West Indies have some of the most insular people in the world.  They're full of grudge for him because he's not from one of the bigger Islands and its burning a lot of them.

I don't hear as much commotion over team selections like West Indians do out of everything.  Anyhow who gets the captaincy will be chastized.  In Australia, Aussies can turn it over to young Cummins right now and there wouldn't be as much commotion as the West Indians are making.

West Indian society is really messed up, and that's why the Cricket is in a mess.  The talent is still their but the mentality is what is letting us down big time.  First time, a teacher could have reported a child to their parents and the child be in trouble, these days, its the other way round.  Parents will think the teacher has something against the child and this and that.  They even are letting their kids getting away from shouting back after teacher.  It has eventually caught up on us and that is why crime is now on the rise all over the West Indies.

Within the space of a 2 months, 2 person was missing then found dead and another 20 year old girl has been missing for over 3 weeks now and can't be found.  A 79 year old woman was raped and killed, a woman and her mother was shot and the guy went on a rampage shooting after everyone he saw (lucky all of them escaped alive).  Things are really messed up.  That's why in a way, i'm actually glad that the WICB has done what they did to Gayle, Sarwan etc.  They are all paying back for the continual threats to strike....

Somehow or the other, i'm up pass 1 in the AM watching these jokers.  Luckily last night sleep really took me out early in the first session.  As far as I see, its best to just swing their bats and entertain the crowd!

The West Indian batsmen are nuts, attack the spinners, sitting down on a turning track only putting you in more trouble.  That's why hardly any spinner could hold Lara down, he never let them settle.

They have applied the follow on mate.