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MiNiWaRnEy
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Topic: Who is the No3 spinner in the world?Posted: 05 January 2006 at 8:51am |
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haha
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 1:40pm |
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taibu used to be one of my favourite players until he quit from zimbabwe streak he was a brilliant bowler one of the best zimbabwe ever had price one of the best spinners flower one of the best batsmen and taibu was turning out to be a star for zimbabwe but there all gone but thet still got some talent mazakadsa,mahwire,utseya,a.bliganaut mind you an excellent all-rounder and hondo good athleticism and bowling
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 2:20pm |
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It doesn't matter how much talent they have because is Zimbabwe even going to be playing any games for the time being? I don't think so.
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 2:25pm |
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such a shame had they had streak,taibu,a.flower,g.flower,price,utseya,mahwire,ebhriam, a.bliganut,d.hondo and coventry or mazakadsa in the same team they would have been on top of the world not really but they would have done well |
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 2:34pm |
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Yup. They would've done well and would've been recognized as a good team but their own problems have become an obstacle for them.
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 2:39pm |
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back to the topic i dont know why people dont consider saqlain mushtaq as the 3rd or 4th best spinner because he is a very good player and already has a ton and two fifties to his name in test cricket
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 2:43pm |
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He's also young. I think he's 29. But he hasn't accomplished a lot.
Anil Kumble has accomplished a lot. He is the third best spinner. |
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 2:45pm |
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hes 28 and has taken a remarkable 288 wickets in odi
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 2:46pm |
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I think he was the fastest to 200 ODI wickets. If he decides to come back and continue in his great form, he could very well breat Wasim Akram's record for most ODI wickets.
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 2:50pm |
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true i dont know why they dont include him in the squad maybe because everyone is just doing so well
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 2:53pm |
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Its not that they don't include him, I think that since he was dropped after the 2003 World Cup, he hasn't put himself up for selection again. He is a quality spinner and I think that they would pick him if he put himself up for selection.
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 2:58pm |
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so your saying he dosent want to be up for selection if you are hes gotta get back and show the world what the great saqlain mushtaq can do rip through teams batting order
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 3:17pm |
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Yea, that's what I'm saying but I don't know why he isn't up for selection. He was dropped after the 2003 World Cup for some reason.
Now he needs to put himself up for selection so he can come back and break Wasim Akram's record for most ODI wickets. |
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 3:19pm |
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hes got i reckon a maximum 10 years left in him a mininum of 7 years
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 4:17pm |
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I doubt 10...maybe if he can stay fit then 10 years. I think he probably has around 8 years in him. And if he can come back and take wickets like he was before then he's going to break Wasim Akram's record.
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Posted: 06 January 2006 at 6:52am |
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He is better then that Arshad Khan bloke Saqlain and younger too. One Saqlains floater and doosra were found out he stooped basically gettin int'l wickets, he has the teesra now, a new ball. Anyway he uses hit variations too much and is not patient at all, he keeps varying his line, length, flight and different balls to much. He needs to bowl omn the smae spot more consistenly. Johan Botha has the same problem, but he is still young and only new to off spin, inexperienced. The doosra for Botha is useless it just goes straight and he doest turn ball much because he releases the ball above the perpendicular.
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Posted: 06 January 2006 at 7:24am |
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Offspinners have a limited life span, and once he picked up by most batsmen he has to go, he is good for county but will not be back in palistani squad, secondly he got knee injury for which he had to miss out a few seasons, a come back doesnt seem likely
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Posted: 06 January 2006 at 7:29am |
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Yep, he got into Paki team quite young and had a good stint of 49 tests (incl. 1 100, 2 50's) and he played a lot of ODI cricket, which is normal for Paki team.
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Posted: 06 January 2006 at 7:40am |
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saqlain will always be remembered for the doosra which was his invention, or to be precise was best known after him and fortunately he was never accused unfair for thet like many others which have used this delivery
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Posted: 06 January 2006 at 8:30am |
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He was one along with a couple of other Asian spinners developed the doosra, he was the 1st one in a game to use it successfully and now a lot of offies use it, he mastered and thus didnt really bend the arm much bowled it fairly. MY problem with was that he bowled it way too much and got found out, and brought it onto himself by using the doosra and the floater too much (like i mentioned earlier). But on his day he could be devastating, remember the WC '99 hat trick, he was alsoo only 23 at that stage.
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Posted: 06 January 2006 at 1:48pm |
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96 and 97 he took 65 and 68 wickets the most ever in a calender year for odi's
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Posted: 06 January 2006 at 2:26pm |
Well, first of all, Saqlains variation and all his different balls certainly get him a lot of wickets. Second, what is a teesra. I've heard of it but I can't figure out what it could possibly be. And what is a floater. Edited by saadadvanced7 |
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Posted: 06 January 2006 at 2:39pm |
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jeetan patel from new zealand is an interesting character he keeps it extremely tight in one dayers took 2 wickets against the lankans today
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Posted: 06 January 2006 at 2:43pm |
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So...this was his 3rd ODI. He is 25 and has a bowling average of 38. That's not good. But he can easily change that.
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Posted: 06 January 2006 at 2:46pm |
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is that so oh well hes better then what his stats show
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Posted: 06 January 2006 at 2:49pm |
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He's only played one match in this series and has a bowling average of 11. That's extremely impressive.
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Posted: 07 January 2006 at 12:17am |
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Off spinners, before saqlain, singh, murali(makes a mockery of off spin bowling) a good bowling average was anything below 40. Vettori averages what 35 with teh ball, like old finger spinners used to.
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Posted: 07 January 2006 at 7:51am |
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warnii is da best we know then its murlai then kumble then danesh keneria and harbajhan
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Posted: 07 January 2006 at 8:23am |
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u can add macgill ot that list aswell, vettorri is very good aswell
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Posted: 07 January 2006 at 8:43am |
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In my point of view, Shahid Afridi is the third best spinner. |
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