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Mojo 
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 Topic: World Cup PredictionsPosted: 09 March 2007 at 6:59am |
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Those excel sheets tend to paint a grim picture sometimes... |
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GreenCap
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Posted: 09 March 2007 at 7:03am |
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Your heart say right Zuhair.
I think Aussie bowling was much stronger than Lankans in 96 WC finals, yet they lost to Lankans, coz the tracks suited them.
Even though Pakistan don't have a strong pace attack here, they have strong batting (Unpredicatble though).They don't often suffer on slow tracks!!!
And a good spin attack is in addition to this.
If you compare Indian bowling with Pakistan, they don't have a good pace attack either. Same is the case with Sri Lanka.
So again I would say Pakistan has got better chances than many other sides and can easily go to top 4.
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Mojo
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Posted: 09 March 2007 at 7:11am |
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I agree with Greencap to some degree... If it comes down to a Pakistan vs Australia final, you could easily see Aussies setting a 350 - 400 run target due to Pak's lack of bowlers, and then once again failing to defend that total.
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Sledger
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Posted: 09 March 2007 at 7:36am |
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On a slightly different tack , who's going to be the surprise package (if there is one) and who's going to bomb?
I'll take Ireland to beat Zimbabwe and get close to qualification for the super 8's , but fall just short. Bangladesh might win one against the big two , but my gutfeel says they won't. As for the bombers - I'll go for Pakistan to implode spectacularly and finish way down in the super 8 table . I don't think this needs a separate thread - it's just a bit of fun anyway. |
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Mojo
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Posted: 09 March 2007 at 7:53am |
Just out of interest, who are Pakistan's main pace bowlers going into this world cup?
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GreenCap
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Posted: 09 March 2007 at 9:28am |
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Only Umar Gul, Rana Naveed, Azhar Mehmood. And Kaneria, Shoib Malik, Afridi and Hafeez.
All of them have some experience (very little though). Remember, they beat WI 4-1 without Shoaib and Asif!!!
And Indians......Zaheer, Sri Santh, Agarkar, Pathan (They are not much better rated than the Pak pace, Mojo!)
South Africa don't have a spinner at all.
And where do Aussies stand in this regard???
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 09 March 2007 at 9:43am |
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I dont think Rana and Azhar add to the strength...one thing they do is that they add to the weakness of the attack!!! Rao Iftikhar is a much better bowler!!!
But yes, Afridi, Hafeez, Kaneria and Malik have to do te bulk of the job if pak have to win games.
I dont think indian attack is too good, but the conditions suit thier type of bowlers specially agarkar and kumble.
Aussies atack is depleted to say the least. And i am afraid please dont expect much from the south african pace battery either in west indies
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bang
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Posted: 09 March 2007 at 11:01am |
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what you guyes think about Sri Lankan attack, isn't it the most balance one, also the conditiones must suit them.
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Chin Music
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Posted: 09 March 2007 at 12:02pm |
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I have to say I rate it, two very good fast bowlers in Chaminda and Malinga and of course Mulari can just about get away with it at the highest level.
 The weakness is the second-string seamers - Fernando very much blows hot and cold, he needs to hope the good spells come at the right times and the poor spells don't cost matches. Maharoof is very talented by reputation, although I've only really seen him in England last summer when he disappointed, so if he plays well this tournament could make him. Those are the only bowlers I really know, who else is likely to fill in the overs? |
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Sledger
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Posted: 09 March 2007 at 12:56pm |
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The Lankans have a solid outfit , if they fire they could scare any side!
I have to say that I wouldn't bet my house on any side and the more I procrastinate , the more I fancy the Windies! Lara says he's going to play test cricket past 40 and this is his one day swansong - that must worry a lot of bowlers! |
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Posted: 09 March 2007 at 2:11pm |
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In my opinion Srilanka's Chance is higher than any other team. It is a perfect team.
what we saw so far in warm up matches that the wicket are very much slow so this condition make srilankan very much comfortable.
It will be very hard for South Africa to win the WC, they are struggling against the spinners.
WI is a good team but their bowling attack is weak and also there is a problem in their middle order.
Aus are one the fav. team in this wc. there bowling attack is off colour but still they are very much strong.
PAK is not a balance team, they are poor in fielding department, there is problem in opening position and also their bowling side is weak but PAK team is very unpredictable team and the condition will help them .
Ind is very much balanced team but the problem is in their batting. In batting they are no consistancy but wicket will help the spinners.
NZ is a ok side for me in this wc although NZ is very good side but the wicket will be slow in this wc and it will be hard for NZ to play well in this type of condition.
Eng will not win this wc because they are struggled against spinner so there chance is very low.
so semi final teams : Aus, Sri, Ind, PAK/SA
in final: Sri & Aus
winner Sri
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Stepashkin
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Posted: 10 March 2007 at 10:52am |
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hey bond - bond is the man and the kiwis will make the sfinals. dont think much of lou vincent though - he is too much of a serious head. flem is mr casual and will have a good tourney. Aussies will make the sfinals - watch out for gillchrist this tournament he is way over due and will warm up with a few big scores against the minnows.
South Africa are crap and wont go any good. Smith cant bat, and Kallis and the very entertaining Nel cant hold the side on their own.
Sreesanth will be one to watch for India. Seen him on tv in the recent series vs South Africa and he has fire in his belly (not just the curries !!). Good entertaining cricketer. India should do well especially if sehwag can get some form back.
Maybe West Indies for the Sfinal - home ground, recent form and lara.
Aussies will win - ponting too good in the big games, mcgrath and S Clarke will dominate, gilly will go off and the others will help out here and there.
It will never happen south africa so get over it !!!!!
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BOBBI
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Posted: 10 March 2007 at 12:24pm |
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South Africa are crap...... please tell me why they just overtook us as number one. I hold little value in ratings but if they are not in the top four then you are kidding yourself.
There are a few other guys in the Aussie side who will do more than help out here and there. Ever heard of Clarke or Hussey. The boy Hayden seemed in pretty good touch too. Oh yeah there is that dred lock guy, um Symonds. If he stays fit do not discount Watto either.
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daisy77
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Posted: 10 March 2007 at 12:33pm |
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South Africa are a very good team and obviously they must have done something to get to number one!! Like Duh!!!!! I don't think one day they wake up and realise that they are ranking number one in odi cricket!!!! They worked hard to be there and personally I am glad that they are number one and not the aussies. For that matter I would be glad if any team were number one if it were not the aussies. LOL. Anyway I think South Africa have the ability to win the world cup this time around. They lost their warm up match against Pak yesterday but nevertheless I still think they could win the world cup. I don't want them to win though because I am supporting the windies but I think that SA has what it takes to win the WC.
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Stepashkin
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Posted: 10 March 2007 at 9:50pm |
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yeh exactly - they lost their warm up match. A sniff of the world cup and south africa crumble. Remeber the dropped catch that lost the world cup, gibbs celebrating too early, or that shambles of a run out that made us tie hence get through. Anyway i hate south africa like most aussies do - barry richards is way over rated and a very ugly man at that.
You are right bobby - we do have more good players - i was just highlighting who i thought would improve. Symo is a majician - hopefully he comes good. Clarke has a nice chick and haydo is goin well. They are all good and unbeatable on their day. SO daisy like duh to you - u wait and see - south africa are crap.. Smith is a looser - nel is a champion.
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GreenCap
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Posted: 11 March 2007 at 8:48am |
Aus are a much better side than SA in all departments. Its good that their downfall came just before the big event. I'm sure Aus will be back to No.1 soon. One thing i would like to see from them is respect for their opponents!!! |
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BOBBI
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Posted: 11 March 2007 at 10:45am |
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I agree they need to pay more respect to others.
I agree that Nel is a champion and for the record i hope Pollock and Boucher have huge cups. I still doubt they will make semi's and will hold their NO. 1 status for long. The whole points sytem is a joke.
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Stepashkin
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Posted: 11 March 2007 at 11:27am |
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yeh the points system is a joke for sure.. Its laughable that SA are number one.. Anyway probably wone be after this tourney anyway..
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Shane Warnabee
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Posted: 11 March 2007 at 4:40pm |
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but i do think the SA have a good batting line up though they have kallis, Gibbs , Boucher ,De Villiers and big hitter kemp and don't forget pollock for bowling as well
as batting and ofcourse Ntini. I would say they are that bad a team just a bit too inconsistant |
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 12 March 2007 at 4:52am |
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SA are a very very nic team!!
But thier problem is that thier pacer battery cannot produce as good a resut as they produce back there in SA, Aus or NZL!!!
Pitches and conditions do matter a great deal. I dont expect Nel, Ntnin and company to bowl splendidly. Only Pollock might be able to knock down a few. These SA bowlers hit the deck hard and that is not gonna work there in WIN i am afraid. W all saw in the warm up match, no matter how low the importance was, the huge dfference in the bowling quality was visibl!!!
That is where i beleive the indian SRL or maybe the Paki attack will be more useful there.
As for the big surpeise, i think its gonna be Bangladesh. DOnt undrrate them. Either India or SRL will have to sit back and fly home before SUper 8. Such is the state there in that group. Both Ind and DRL are favorites this time to win the cup, but what a pity that would be if and when one of these teams will have to fly back!!!
Watch out for Shahryar Nafees!!! If BD move on to super 8, he might well finish as the top run scorer.
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Sledger
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Posted: 12 March 2007 at 5:32am |
You're new here and look set for a very short stay. Hate speak isn't welcome here and this will be your only warning. That you obviously know nothing about cricket is already obvious - Barry Richards was undoubtably one of the finest batsmen ever to grace the game. |
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bang
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Posted: 12 March 2007 at 5:51am |
theu have no problem there because they have Jayasooriya who has more than 270 ODI wickets to his name & you can bank on him to bowl 10 overs in any match, If they need another spinner they can call on Bandara he is a top quality spinner has always done well in the absense of Murali. there are other part timers too, the likes of Dilshan, Arnold.
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Sledger
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Posted: 12 March 2007 at 6:53am |
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Yep , Jayasuriya will bowl a lot of overs. The wickets I've seen so far
are slow and low , so keeping the pace off the ball will make scoring
pretty tough. The old man might bowl the odd long hop , but he still
turns the ball and will nip a few out too.
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Sledger
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Posted: 12 March 2007 at 6:58am |
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Coming back on topic , India's demolition of the host country must send
out a warning to all the other sides. That some Windies players were
apparently in a nightclub until 3am suggests they aren't as
professional as they should be - if they were , they should be
reprimanded.
Conditions seem perfect for the Asian block and possibly New Zealand - that's where I see the winners coming from. |
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Posted: 12 March 2007 at 7:00am |
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Oooh the Aussies here are getting far too worked up. Come on, guys, relax. Settle down, take a deep breath and count to 438...
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bang
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Posted: 12 March 2007 at 7:15am |
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yes,,, these windies, I cann't undestand their mind set.
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bang
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Posted: 12 March 2007 at 7:25am |
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Indians look verry good, but I donn't think they have the confidence in them to go the full distence. South Africa look good as well but presure will break them down.
 Kiwies are not the team to rock the world yet, eventhough they are in good form
 watch out for Ausies & SriLanka.  Edited by bang - 12 March 2007 at 8:09am |
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 12 March 2007 at 7:40am |
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Had BanglaDesh been in any other group, we might have seen 4 asian teams in the semis!!!
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Sledger
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Posted: 12 March 2007 at 7:53am |
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I'm still unsure about Pakistan - of the Asian sides they definitely
have the weakest spin attack. Their win over SA will be a boost
though - they are always capable of beating anyone.
As for Australia , I see sides scoring heavily against them. That doesn't mean they won't win though - they're capable of chasing down big targets. South Africa are puzzling. Just why they made such a fuss over a wicket that Pakistan scored 200 on for the loss of just three wickets is mystifying. My guess is that they're feeling the pressure already - I don't fancy them at all now. (Just goes to show - I thought they stood a great chance two weeks back!) |
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 12 March 2007 at 11:50am |
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U r right Sledger!!! Goodness me this world cup is surely going to bring bad bad news for the bookies!!! Its the most open one ever!!
Its really difficult to maintain one's stance on a particular team!!! All look favorites and all look so ordinary at the same time!!
My biggest interest is in in the indian group!! There lie the 2 big favorites of the WC!! and in my view they are the 2 most worried teams at the moment whether they will ven qualify in to the super 8!!
I dont see BAngladeshis losing 2 out of 2!! They will definately bat one of these 2 teams!!! And what a situation would that be!!
Paki's spin attack is not the WEAKEST though!!!its better than South africa, Australia, West Indies, England!! At par or a touch better than NZL!!
Its weaker than the three asian teams though!!
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