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Mojo
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Topic: World Cup PredictionsPosted: 13 February 2007 at 10:42am |
I guess you're gonna start talking about India's win in the 1983 World Cup as well...
Judge the team on its current form, and relative to the form of the other current teams. Don't look at the magnificent form that it may have been in four years ago.
2006/7 season - India's home record: Good. India's away record?
India in West Indies (May 06 - Jun 06) W.I won 4-1.
DLF series in Malaysia (Sep 06) Played 4, won 1, lost 2, NR 1.
India in South Africa (Nov 06 - Dec 06) S.A won 4-0.
Total for India away in 2006/7 season - Played 14, won 2, lost 10, NR 2.
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ANIL KUMBLE
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Posted: 13 February 2007 at 10:49am |
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Woah that's shocking in what areas do you think they can improve away?
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Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though...
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Sledger
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Posted: 13 February 2007 at 12:24pm |
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By winning mate!!
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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Mojo
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Posted: 13 February 2007 at 1:44pm |
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Lol!
Honestly, I just think India needs to start playing more games away than at home, and to pay more attention to their pace bowlers. Spin is not always gonna work outside the sub-continent. Zaheer Khan and Sree Sreesanth have tons of potential to be world-leading bowlers, but I don't think they're being pushed far enough. Too much reliance on Kumble, Harbhajan and even Sachin. (my opinion though. Subject to dispute)
In the same light, SA needs to pay more attention to their spin bowlers...
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spin wizard
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Posted: 13 February 2007 at 5:01pm |
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India has played very poor in the caribbean in the past! The first series win last year tells it own story too. Barbados, Trinidad and Jamaica are all famous for Bounce, but to India's greatness, only Barbados I think is being used after the first round.
Kumble will be a key man if they have to succeed.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Clobber
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Posted: 13 February 2007 at 7:23pm |
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From now on any posts that ignore JP's original request just get deleted
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daisy77
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Posted: 13 February 2007 at 7:46pm |
Best batting line up of the tournament!!!!!!!!!
The Aussies have one of the best batting line ups. LOL.....India has a good one too.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 14 February 2007 at 4:48am |
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you think 4 batsmen are not enough? Dont they make the strongest line up?
Aussies have Ponting, Hussey and Haydn for my likings. India only has big names and nothing more tha that. Same goes for Paksitan!!
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basharat.ali
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Posted: 14 February 2007 at 7:17am |
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Man, no chance for pakistan. Asif, the only bowler in the side. Even he may be out of action due to drugs case and a crippled bowling of non test playing nation standard will rule them out completely in the super 8!!!
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slogger72N/O
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Posted: 14 February 2007 at 7:45am |
What about Gilchrist mate, he's only one of the best one day players of all time, even Brad Hodge is in some form at the moment.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 14 February 2007 at 9:51am |
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hmm..well you are right...i missed gilly...well that makes them par with Windies...but thest two, then are certainly the top 2 batting sides!!! and please dontt ell me the number of runs scored by the 3 great indian batsmen...!!!
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spin wizard
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Posted: 15 February 2007 at 2:01am |
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What do you really have against the 3 great Indian batsmen. Well 2 actually.
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Posted: 15 February 2007 at 5:33am |
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well 3 actually!! Whom dont u recognize a great? Ganguly or Dravid? well for me all three are great!! but they only are grreat batsmen, not match winners. They cant absorb pressure well, thier bowlers will let them down every time!!
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basharat.ali
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Posted: 16 February 2007 at 1:08pm |
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The latest assault of aussis by the kiwis suggests that the upcoming world cup is going to be "Anybody's Game!".
Not sure about the pitches, if these are perfect batting pitches, South Africa may well find themselves in trouble against Asian spinners, and their bowlers will also be thrashed all over the park like Nazir and Afridi did in the 2nd ODI. Same the case with England. Aussies are also down. So in the end, pitches are going to decide the fate of the tournament. If batting friendly, Asians have better chances, if bouncy ones, South Africa or West Indies!!! |
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Rifat
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Posted: 16 February 2007 at 4:49pm |
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Hmmm...........difficult to choose who is going to win this time around
My Prediction: Semis: Australia, West Indies, South Africa and Sri Lanka Final: South Africa vs Sri Lanka Winner: South Africa I just feel this is going to be South Africa's world cup, they are in good form and have a great bowling attack along with a deep batting order |
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robbie
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Posted: 16 February 2007 at 6:34pm |
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My Predicitions
Semi-Finals:Australia,South Africa,West Indies and England
Final: South Africa v West indies
Winner:South Africa
i think south africa will be unbeatible and Pollock will dominate and i also think england could do well after beating australai 3 times in a row
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daisy77
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Posted: 16 February 2007 at 6:49pm |
Four batsmen may probably be enough if we were sure that they were all going to make runs but that's just not so. Gayle is just a hitter. Nothing more than that. It's either he makes runs or get out so that's not very encouraging. Sarwan is a good player, one of the best ODI players the west indies have. Chanders is an anchor, you can always depend on him to stay by the wicket and make runs and most of the time he doesn't make hard, careless shots. Brian Lara is also a good player.....
but still I think that our batting line up is not the best.
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Posted: 17 February 2007 at 2:25am |
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before i thought Australia would win but now they are not in form so i think the windies will win.
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daisy77
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Posted: 17 February 2007 at 12:56pm |
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I guess you are saying that the Aussies won't win it because they lost 2 matches against England and they lost one against New Zealand but that doesn't mean that West Indies will win. West Indies lost both test and ODI series against Pak recently so as far as I see it both teams have lost a couple of matches so maybe that means that both teams are out of form. I would like West Indies to win though but I am trying to be logical.
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Posted: 17 February 2007 at 1:07pm |
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West Indies v England Final - England to win World Cup Edited by Doctor - 17 February 2007 at 1:07pm |
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Posted: 17 February 2007 at 5:13pm |
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Posted: 18 February 2007 at 10:23am |
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WI Players to watch: Gayle,Chanderpaul,Bravo and Jerome Taylor
chances: Finalists NZ Players to watch: Taylor,Mcullum,Bond and Gillepsie
Player to watch: Bell,Piterson,Flintoff and Plunkett. Australia Players to watch:Hussey and Johnson. SA Players to watch:Kallis and Boucher SL Player to watch:Jayasurya,Murali,Sangakara and Mahalinga Pakistan |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 18 February 2007 at 4:38pm |
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I like how you did yours.
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Hedonism
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Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:18am |
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My first post, so here goes. I'll basically just make mention of the logical teams to make the Super 8 round.
Australia Despite the new rankings, probably still the best team in the world at the moment if they can field a full strength side. As much as everyone loves to talk about the depth of talent in Aus, they've really been shown up in NZ. Their chances are going to hinge around the availability of Symonds, Lee and Gilchrist, but even without them, and the return of Ponting, they're going be incredibly hard to beat. Prediction: Finals England I know everyone is raving after the VB series win, but if we're entirely honest, you can't judge a team on one good match and two wins in Duckworth-Lewis matches when they hadn't won a thing on the same tour leading in. They're sorely lacking in consistency and are relying on single match-winners far too often. Unless something happens to gel the team and provide some consistency, particularly from their bowlers, they won't make it past the Super 8's. Prediction: Super 8 India An amazing batting lineup packed with match winners, but a little bit of a hit-and-miss bowling attack. I have to agree with Mojo on this one: they just don't travel well, particularly in the past 12 months. Prediction: Super 8 New Zealand I don't think anything can be read into the current series in their own back yard against a depleted Aus lineup. NZ, like SA, consistently fail to live up to their potential and I think having the best captain in the world at the moment helps them reach heights they wouldn't normally. Prediction: Super 8 Pakistan Despite having just lost the series to SA, Pakistan are a very dangerous side. On their day, they can be almost unbeatable. I think the lack of a decent opening combination coupled with constant injuries to key bowlers is holding them back and will moere than likely keep them from reaching their true potential in the tournament. Even so, they're going to be tough to beat. Prediction: Semi-finals South Africa I'm trying very hard not to be biased here. SA have hit a great run of form lately and certainly have the most momentum of any team going into the tournament. Barring a few misfires in the top order, there's not been much wrong with the side at all. Having said that, they're perpetual bridesmaids and just keep failing to produce when it counts. A lot of that moniker has been dropped after the '438' win, but it's something that will still be in people's minds. Prediction: Finals Sri Lanka Incredibly dangerous when they're on form and absolutely shocking when they're not. Easily the most unpredictable team in the tournament and that makes it very hard to create expectations. I can't help but think we could just as easily see a repeat of 1996 as we could see them not even make the Super 8. A lot will depend on Murali and Sangakara. Prediction: Super 8 West Indies You just can't write them off. They showed in the Champions Trophy that they still have what's required to beat the best in the world. Again, inconsistency is their achilles heel, but if it all comes together at the right time, I don't think anyone can stop them. Prediction: Semi-finals I refuse to predict a winner. When it comes down to the finals, it's the best team on the day that will win and you never know who that's going to be until the end of the game. Let's face it: halfway through SA vs Aus at the Wanderers in March when Aus posted 434/4, who did you think was the best team on the day? Edited by Hedonism - 19 February 2007 at 9:43am |
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Mojo
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Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:25am |
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Nice analogy there, Hedonism. Fairly accurate, I'd say.
So who's your 4th semi-finalist? You named 5 super-8 teams.
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Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:44am |
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Oops. Edited now. West Indies for the 4th semi-final place. Home advantage should get them there.
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Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:56am |
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Solid stuff Hed , nice to see a balanced view - welcome to the forum.
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Posted: 19 February 2007 at 11:19am |
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Yes, nice analysis. One point though:-
1. SA and Aus in same group. with the points carried, the loser in the first round may have less chances of making it to semis. 2. Similarly, Pak and WI in the same group, so again the same case, particularly Pak will have even less chances if they lose the opener to Windies. So eliminating two groups completely while considering the semi-final probables may raise some eye-brows!!! |
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Posted: 19 February 2007 at 11:24am |
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Well, considering the format of the Super 8 round, I don't think it matters too much who qualifies where in each group. Each team will play each other qualifier apart from the other team from their group (three rounds of two matches each). The semis are still completely open. Anyone could end up playing against anyone else.
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Mojo
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Posted: 19 February 2007 at 11:33am |
Remember, this isn't the Super Sixes. It's Super Eights. The teams in it will each be playing 6 more matches after the group stages. Compare 3 games worth of points in the groups to 6 games in the Supers... Elimination of a complete group is very easily a possibility. Edited by Mojo - 19 February 2007 at 11:33am |
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