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saadadvanced7 
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 Topic: Would any one want help with spin?Posted: 03 January 2006 at 7:01pm |
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Cool. I can do a doosra!
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MiNiWaRnEy
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Posted: 04 January 2006 at 8:51am |
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Yes it is a doosra, probably bowled it by fluke, it takes years to master it without bending your arm. I suppose Murali chucks anyway because he gets away with (shifty bas****)
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saadadvanced7
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Posted: 05 January 2006 at 11:43pm |
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Ok, you have to understand that doing the doosra for me is easier because I am a left handed off-spinner. So my action is the exact samething as a right handed leg-spinner. Do you know what I mean.
For the googly, you have to turn your wrist like you're turning a door knob right? And at the end of your action the back of the hand is suppose to be facing the batsman. But since I am left-handed, my off-spin action is different than the right-handed off-spinners action. My off-spinner action is the same as a right handed leg-spinners action. My action is like this except I'm left-handed so when I turn it the other way, its a doosra. I don't think anyone understands what I'm trying to say.  Edited by saadadvanced7 |
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MiNiWaRnEy
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Posted: 06 January 2006 at 6:33am |
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NOPE, you are wrong if you are bowling like a leg spinner then you are a Slow left arm Chinaman Wrist Spinner, you will spin the ball in the same direction as a right arm off spinner, but you are bowling the left armers version of a leg spin, you aree not bowling the doosra, you are bowling the googly.
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Charlie
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Posted: 07 January 2006 at 11:35am |
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what does the doosra do? meaning how does it move
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MiNiWaRnEy
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Posted: 08 January 2006 at 2:41am |
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OK mate, if you are a right arm off spin bowler like Harbajan Singh you will spin the ball into a right handed batsmen, When the off spinner bowls the doosra the balls spins in the opposite direction, away from the batsman.
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Posted: 09 January 2006 at 4:53am |
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how many deliveries can a left arm spinner do
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Warne in making
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Posted: 09 January 2006 at 4:39pm |
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Stock ball
Doorsa Arm Ball Toppie Bout it really! |
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MiNiWaRnEy
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Posted: 10 January 2006 at 12:09am |
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Saqlain has a tessra. Meaning the thord one, not many people really know about it because it is still very new, but I believe it is a delivery which once it hits the pitch the speed goes up or something of that sorts. It will be interesting to see if our man Saqlain Mushtaq gets another go. He is the guy that 1st made the doosra basically, so he has quite a big repetoire of balls, particularly for an offie. He revolutionised off spin, more then MUrali even.
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saadadvanced7
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Posted: 10 January 2006 at 7:14pm |
Ok! Great! I am a Chinaman wrist spinner! |
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Posted: 10 January 2006 at 9:00pm |
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Or more succinctly, a left arm unorthodox bowler. I believe this is what the 'official' term is. |
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MiNiWaRnEy
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Posted: 11 January 2006 at 12:22am |
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Yes Slow Left arm Unorthodx, a less commonly used term for thos style of bowling, it really is a rare art. The only Cihnamen bowlers I can think of from he top of my head are Paul Adams, Michael Beva, George Bradely Hogg. MArk HIggs and Simon Katich.
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Black_cap_95
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Posted: 12 January 2006 at 11:15am |
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can you teach me to bowl left arm chinamens im a left arm orthadox and i bowl those fine but when it come to my rongun or doosra which ever one it is its either a wide or a long hop that doesnt spin much at all and i would also like to know how to bowl the arm ball
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Mebz
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Posted: 12 January 2006 at 12:36pm |
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how do you spin it away from a right hander , i'm a leggie but most balls i bowl turn into the batsmen. please help me with the grip and release action
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saadadvanced7
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Posted: 12 January 2006 at 9:42pm |
In 5 years, you can add me to that list. 
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cricketluva
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Posted: 16 January 2006 at 2:12am |
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Hopefully we can and you can come and play for Australia.
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See you later Gilly! Thanks for the memories! |
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youngmurali
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Posted: 16 January 2006 at 6:54pm |
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hi guys i saw this topic through google and i wouldnt mind giving my own tips on offspin, i am a right handed offspinner, i have 5 deliveries, some of my own, if anyone is interested i can give you tips on, the offbreak, the arm ball and the topspinner. If you want to find out about my other two "made up" bowls then prepared to get complicated. If you are willing to listen i will explain. I could also do with help making up two names for my deliveiries as well. I have the utmost respect for you miniwarney as i know how hard it is to develop and practise so many types of spin.
Let me know if you want tips
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youngmurali
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Posted: 16 January 2006 at 6:55pm |
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PS> im trying to develop a doosra at the mo, i could do with tips on the release if anyone has it please!
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Posted: 16 January 2006 at 7:10pm |
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Well, presumably name wise you'd carry on the trend: doosra, tessra, ......... (I don't know what language it is so can't carry it on, but apparently Saqlain Mushtaq has a tesra, a third variation.) Edited by -JP- |
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youngmurali
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Posted: 16 January 2006 at 7:23pm |
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i cant find a lanuage translator and there are about 10 different languages over there anyway one is a fingerspin doosra and the other is a topspin offspinner. |
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-JP-
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Posted: 16 January 2006 at 7:30pm |
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doosra means 'the other one' but I've no idea what tesra means. Perhaps you can put 'sra' after your initials/first name/last name or something if you want to invent a new name for a delivery!
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youngmurali
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Posted: 16 January 2006 at 7:36pm |
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lol, i think teesra means third one and doosra means other or second. i dont think it would sound too good if the commentator said, oh thats a good andrewsra.
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-JP-
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Posted: 16 January 2006 at 7:55pm |
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No, you're right, it's too close to doosra in pronunciation.
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cricketluva
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Posted: 17 January 2006 at 12:48am |
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Yes, Doosra means th eother one in Urdu or something liek that and tessra means the third one.
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See you later Gilly! Thanks for the memories! |
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Posted: 17 January 2006 at 12:51am |
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Right, so we just need someone to tell us what 'fourth one' and 'fifth one' is and we're away...
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cricketluva
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Posted: 17 January 2006 at 12:51am |
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The arm ball is a very simple delivery to bowl, the toppie requires a little practice to gte the control and the dooosra is very hard to bowl without chucking it, hard to control. I am a Right-Arm off Break bowler and I can bowl a few different kinds of offies, the arm ball, the top spinner and I have invented a few.
Youngmurali could you plesase tell me about your new variations, I would like to hear them! Thankyou.
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See you later Gilly! Thanks for the memories! |
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saadadvanced7
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Posted: 17 January 2006 at 6:00am |
fourth one : choutha fifth one : panchwa |
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cricketluva
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Posted: 17 January 2006 at 6:12am |
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Nice
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See you later Gilly! Thanks for the memories! |
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saadadvanced7
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Posted: 17 January 2006 at 8:20am |
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Yea, I know Urdu because I am originally from Pakistan but right now I am living in Canada.
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Posted: 17 January 2006 at 4:43pm |
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I have tried to invent a ball, with help from a lad called charlie mackenzie, a slider-leggie. Hes a batsmen who bowls leg spin, and im a leggie. Its where you bowl a slider (back spinner) with the back of your hand facing the batsmen. Its very hard to pick, it speeds up and leggies, as long as you have the seam upright
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