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spin wizard 
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 Topic: 10 greatest fast bowlers everPosted: 06 May 2006 at 8:16pm |
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Who do you guys think are the 10 best pacers the world have ever seen. My 10 are Holding, Garner, Akram, W.Younis, Mcgrath, A.roberts, M.Marshall, Ntini, Ambrose, Walsh |
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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wccc
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Posted: 06 May 2006 at 8:31pm |
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no brett lee or shoaib
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Clobber
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 12:10am |
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those 2 would be nowhere near an all time top 10
Denis Lillee on the other hand....... |
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daisy77
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 12:15am |
Nice to see so many West Indians in that list...half of your list is West Indians! |
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 1:03am |
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Dennis Lille should be there.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 1:20am |
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well cobs and dravid fan, dennis lillee was great and there is richard hadlee, alan donald somemore to name as well.
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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Clobber
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 1:22am |
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Fred Trueman
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cricket_mstr
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 2:20am |
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Holding, McGrath, Ambrose, Walsh, Lillee, Hadlee, Donald, Garner, Flintoff, another WI I can't think of (he was in the tied test)
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skip_eng
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 2:26am |
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flintoff? disagree with that
michael holding, malcolm marshall, richard hadlee, alan donald, glen mcgrath, courtney walsh, curtley ambrose, waqar younis, dennis lillee, fred trueman |
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Ashley Giles took three good wickets, outbowling Shane Warne who matched him in the scorebook, but not on the field
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daisy77
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 3:23am |
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Yes...I am with skip_eng there.....Flintoff one of the greatest fast bowlers ever??????? I don't think so. He is probably one of the greatest all-rounders ever...but not fast bowler. Is he even a genuine "fast bowler" isn't he more of a medium pacer (excuse me if I am wrong I don't really know)?
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Captain_Amazing
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 4:48am |
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Unfortunately I am not old enough to know about all of the greats, but my faves are Akram, Younis and Akhtar. Aswell as Ambrose...
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ANIL KUMBLE
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 5:36am |
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Jeff Thomson? Michael Holding?
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Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though...
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crownmethod
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 7:10am |
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Out of all the great fast bowlers, my favourite would have to be Younnis. |
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mazzybabe.uk
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 8:21am |
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The First Century I ever saw was Heschelle Gibbs' 228 against Pakistan
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ANIL KUMBLE
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 8:29am |
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Do you really think Makhaya Ntini is in the world's top 10 greatest fast bowler's of all time
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Check out my blog http://crictopia.blogspot.com/ pretty bad though...
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mazzybabe.uk
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 8:42am |
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he's got the potential
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The First Century I ever saw was Heschelle Gibbs' 228 against Pakistan
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gambler
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 9:38am |
Perhaps a better (easier) question would be: who are the 10 best bowlers each person has seen? Its hard to comment about players before our time. Therefore I'm going to restrict my list to fast bowlers I've seen since I started watching cricket (late 70's). My Top 10 list is (in no particular order): Hadlee, Lillee, McGrath, Garner, Holding, Roberts, Marshall, Ambrose, Younis, Akram and Donald. Crap!...thats 11 (my maths is bad.... I dont know who to scrap...but if I had to pick the best 2, I would probably go with Hadlee and Garner. |
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dips_december
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 10:42am |
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Marshall Younis Akram Garner Pollock Ntini McGrath Lillee Walsh Sorry no flintoff so early |
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kashiua
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 10:48am |
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NO.1=Wasim Akram
NO.2=DANIS LILIE NO.3=HOLDING NO.4=WAQAR YOUNIS NO.5=MARSHALL NO.6=IMRAN KHAN NO.7=MCGRATH NO.8=WASH NO.9=SHOAIB NO.10=ALLAN DONALADKASHIFALI. |
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kashiua
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 10:50am |
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in my view these are all great
don,t compare them |
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dips_december
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 11:20am |
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shoaib ahead of pollock or even lee ,can't believe it kashiua and whos WASH ?
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kashiua
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 11:33am |
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akhtar iss great all time
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Clobber
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 12:10pm |
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Gambler is quite correct. All these "best ever" threads are daft since
none of us has seen enough of the older generation to be able to say
with any assurance, not least on a forum like this where so many of the
posters are younger and have only seen cricket in the last few years.
So on that basis, the best I have seen, in no particular order apart from the first two. Malcolm Marshall Denis Lillee Wasim Akram Michael Holding Colin Croft Richard Hadlee Imran Khan Ian Botham Joel Garner Glenn McGrath Bubbling under; Mike Proctor Curtley Ambrose Safraz Nawaz Bob Willis Alan Donald Edited by Clobber |
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skip_eng
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Posted: 07 May 2006 at 9:00pm |
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shoaib is no where near the list of greats. he isn't even great in this era. fair enough he is pacy, but he doesnt often get it right. pakistan have had some greats such as younis and akram, but shoaib no.
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Ashley Giles took three good wickets, outbowling Shane Warne who matched him in the scorebook, but not on the field
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Jay dee
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Posted: 08 May 2006 at 12:01am |
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if shoaib can not be in the all time top ten ( which i agree with) so cant ntini,lee,flintoff, these are in same category.
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skip_eng
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Posted: 08 May 2006 at 12:23am |
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yes thats true jay dee, which i said earlier as well. altho i think brett lee is the perfect role model for any aspiring fast bowler.
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Ashley Giles took three good wickets, outbowling Shane Warne who matched him in the scorebook, but not on the field
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dips_december
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Posted: 08 May 2006 at 5:47am |
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cmon shoaib has played 43 tests and has missed 37 of them so a fast bowler also has to maintain fitness levels and shoaibs is POOR so you see ntini has taken 270 odd test wickets in 60 odd matches
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Sledger
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Posted: 08 May 2006 at 6:49am |
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I have to laugh at some of these choices , Ntini , you just have to be kidding!!
I'll go the way of Gambler and Clobber and rate the players I've seen live. Fred Trueman , Brian Statham ,Wes Hall, Dennis Lillee , Malcolm Marshall , Andy Roberts , Richard Hadlee , Colin Croft , Courtney Walsh , Curtley Ambrose , Allan Donald , Wasim Akram , Mike Proctor , Peter Pollock. Lillee was fantastic , but Marshall was the best I've ever seen . just brilliant! ...my maths is crap too , but I'm not cutting it back!! |
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gambler
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Posted: 08 May 2006 at 11:41am |
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Perhaps if I only started watching cricket in the last 12 months, I would include Ntini in my greatest ever list... Your list includes many of mine...except you seem to go back a much longer way than me mate... by the way Sledger, I noticed your list doesn't include Joel Garner. Was it an over-sight...or you didn't rate the Big Bird as highly as me? Also did you see much of Garth Le Roux? I only got to see him in one season of the World Series...not enough to consider him as a great. But I remember he was certainly a handful for all the batsmen...and I believe he ended up with a very good average while playing 1st class cricket in SA and England. |
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Sledger
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Posted: 08 May 2006 at 1:32pm |
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I forgot the Big Bird mate , he was top class too! When I came to SA , Garth was playing for Western Province and opened the attack with Stephen Jeffries - solid pairing and plenty of pace! Both could bat too and would be in the frame to play for their country today.
One I've not mentioned is Vince van der Bijl , great bowler , but not express pace. He played one season in England in 1980 and that was enough to help Middlesex win the championship. Mike Brearley was very complimentary about Big Vince , a top bowler! John Snow was pretty fiery too , just ask any Aussie batsman of 1971 !! 
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. He is a good bowler (no doubt) but you cant compare him with the likes of the others you mentioned. Lillee and Marshall (RIP) are certainly legends.