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bondy
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 10 December 2006 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 4976 |
Topic: 2007 ICC Cricket World Cup FinalPosted: 02 May 2007 at 12:38pm |
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Yawn
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Good one Graham!
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tonks007
First Slip
Joined: 30 January 2007 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 862 |
Posted: 03 May 2007 at 2:51am |
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Does anyone know why Simon Taufel wasnt umpiring the WC Final? Being the number one umpire three years in a row and he doesnt do the biggest game in 4 years??? I doubt that there would have been any of those blunders if he was in the final....Just a bit odd that he wasnt involved....
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even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days
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Roscoe
Extra Cover
Joined: 09 January 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 501 |
Posted: 03 May 2007 at 3:07am |
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He is Australian, and therefore couldn't be 'neutral' according to the rules.
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It's a long way to the shop, if you want a sausage roll.
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tonks007
First Slip
Joined: 30 January 2007 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 862 |
Posted: 03 May 2007 at 3:16am |
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I really should have thought about that one.....
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even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days
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wiseguy
Banned
Joined: 16 December 2005 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 2032 |
Posted: 03 May 2007 at 5:09am |
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I think we had enough of him in the first semi final, and with his standards he would have done everything to ruin the final!
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so far so good!
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143no
Opener
Final warning for running on the pitch Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 2516 |
Posted: 03 May 2007 at 5:36am |
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Don't be ridiculous wisey, 1 bad game dosen't make him a bad umpire, he has been consisitantly the best for a fair while. It's a shame that it has to come down to having neutral umpires, a few countries have ruined it because of a) the way their umpires have acted with bias and b) because the same countries live the by the ethos that all other countries umpires would show the same bias as them.
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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slogger72N/O
Opener
Joined: 21 May 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2853 |
Posted: 03 May 2007 at 7:21am |
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I don't think taufel had a very good world cup by his high standards.
Edited by slogger72N/O - 03 May 2007 at 7:24am |
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143no
Opener
Final warning for running on the pitch Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 2516 |
Posted: 03 May 2007 at 9:01am |
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Not many of the umpires did.
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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Sledger
Captain
Dickenson can marry my mother-in-law ! Joined: 08 August 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 15694 |
Posted: 03 May 2007 at 10:09am |
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That Caribbean rum is good stuff !
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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wiseguy
Banned
Joined: 16 December 2005 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 2032 |
Posted: 03 May 2007 at 10:49am |
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As far as the Umpiring is concerned it was almost perfect in the final, so Toufel probably could only be included on the basis of being no. 1, but he usually has the lion's share of all assignments so not operating in a final would not harm that much!
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so far so good!
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kev2006
Short Leg
Joined: 08 June 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 52 |
Posted: 03 May 2007 at 12:16pm |
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Taufel isn't umpiring Australian games because the subcontinent mob are so paranoid and precious when it comes to bias that the ICC had to introduce this neutral umpire stance. If cricket still can't have the best umpires officiating games in this day and age because of a worry that more 50-50 decisions will go one way depending on the race of the umpire and team in question then what does that say about where cricket is at?
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Jackp
12th Man
Joined: 26 April 2007 Location: Sri Lanka Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
Posted: 05 May 2007 at 7:56am |
Did Australia Cheat its Way to Victory? |
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RightHandBat
Wicket-Keeper
The next best batsman Joined: 27 January 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 1399 |
Posted: 05 May 2007 at 8:24am |
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Here we go..
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"His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
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Roscoe
Extra Cover
Joined: 09 January 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 501 |
Posted: 05 May 2007 at 8:49am |
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There's no law against using "non-traditional foreign objects" to enhance your grip.
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It's a long way to the shop, if you want a sausage roll.
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143no
Opener
Final warning for running on the pitch Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 2516 |
Posted: 05 May 2007 at 9:00am |
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Surley that post embarrasses all sri lankans. |
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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scuudz
Wicket-Keeper
Joined: 12 March 2007 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 1754 |
Posted: 05 May 2007 at 1:30pm |
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I am not sure if it is illegal or not, but it was a fantastic idea.....whoever thought of it.
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Clobber
Captain
Joined: 03 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8838 |
Posted: 05 May 2007 at 2:47pm |
yeah yeah yeah, here we go again |
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ramzi
Extra Cover
Joined: 07 January 2006 Location: Sri Lanka Online Status: Offline Posts: 520 |
Posted: 05 May 2007 at 5:20pm |
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Thats one of the grey areas that the ICC has to do something but still it's history mates
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slogger72N/O
Opener
Joined: 21 May 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2853 |
Posted: 05 May 2007 at 5:47pm |
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I don't see why he can't do that. Besides are you saying that a squash ball won the world cup |
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143no
Opener
Final warning for running on the pitch Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 2516 |
Posted: 06 May 2007 at 12:24am |
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It's no different than using 1 & 1/2 grips, or tape in different places on your handle, to suggest it's cheating is garbage, it mearly keeps his hand in the position it should be. I find it disgraceful that some sri lankans can consider muralis action fine, yet call this sort of thing cheating, all because they got beat by a much better team. shame shame shame
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Jayasuriya
Square Leg
Joined: 31 August 2006 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 254 |
Posted: 06 May 2007 at 4:25am |
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murali is no cheater? explain to me how he is, cuz he has an unorthodox action? oh shutup every batsmean in the world would use something liek a squashball to get better grip, so why dont you see them wearing it? gilchrist is a reat batsmen no lie, but how is it the match that he wears a squahs ball, he wins the world cup for austrilia, coincednece? i think not
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Sri Lanka to win the WORLD CUP 07
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143no
Opener
Final warning for running on the pitch Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 2516 |
Posted: 06 May 2007 at 5:15am |
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You don't think period.
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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tonks007
First Slip
Joined: 30 January 2007 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 862 |
Posted: 06 May 2007 at 5:51am |
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What a pack of sore losers. Deal with the fact that you were flogged fair and square ad get over it.... Pathetic excuses. And Jaya, werent you going to bring something up after the WC final? Oh, thats right. You called me a joke for tipping Australia to win the final comfortably. Who is the joke now mate???? 143, your comment Re: the grips, was spot on.
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even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days
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Roscoe
Extra Cover
Joined: 09 January 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 501 |
Posted: 06 May 2007 at 6:12am |
It improves Gilchrist's grip because it corrects a problem he has with his bottom hand not being in the right position. Most batsman don't have that problem because they don't have the same grip, which means they wouldn't benefit from putting a squash ball in their glove. It's no coincidence that Gilchrist batted a lot better, and hit the ball in different areas to where he normally does. It's also not illegal. There are no regulations about what a player can do to the grip on their bat or what their batting gloves must be like. |
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It's a long way to the shop, if you want a sausage roll.
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W.G.
Wicket-Keeper
Joined: 04 January 2007 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1833 |
Posted: 06 May 2007 at 7:38am |
OK, that aside I'm quite interested in the squash ball (it was half a squash ball) use. I fail to see how this can rectify an issue in Gilchrist's grip, given that he has batted fantastically well throughout his career to-date. The only way the squash ball could be legitimately used would be to rectify a sudden physical change in his hand and presumably he hasn't suddenly lost a chunk of his palm. It is much the same as secreting a spring or some such device within your glove and, regardless of the holier than though bleating of the Australian contingent, this cannot be construed as playing within the spirit of the laws. |
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When you win the toss - bat.
If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
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slogger72N/O
Opener
Joined: 21 May 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2853 |
Posted: 06 May 2007 at 7:40am |
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But Sanath Jayasuriya doesn't need a squash ball, because his grip is different to Gilchrist's
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W.G.
Wicket-Keeper
Joined: 04 January 2007 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1833 |
Posted: 06 May 2007 at 7:43am |
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Can you please point out to me why, if it is an issue with Gilchrist's grip, he has not used it throughout his career? There are only so many ways you can grip a cricket bat.
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When you win the toss - bat.
If you are in doubt, think about it - then bat. If you have very big doubts, consult a colleague - then bat. |
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slogger72N/O
Opener
Joined: 21 May 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2853 |
Posted: 06 May 2007 at 7:49am |
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I agree that he probably should've used it throughout his career, but I don't agree with the Jayasuriya part. He might not have any big problems with his grip that need changing. |
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Lioness
Test Debutant
Joined: 26 April 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 28 |
Posted: 06 May 2007 at 7:51am |
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Just a question...Do you think if the Lankans did something similar it would be accepted?? I think not. It would be on the front page of every sports paper calling them cheats........... |
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143no
Opener
Final warning for running on the pitch Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 2516 |
Posted: 06 May 2007 at 7:54am |
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It is there so it will feel uncomfortable if his hand moves into a position it shouldn't be.
And your comment "Actually that is a fair point and you could safely bet your mortgage on the fact that the Australian reaction would have been immediate and vitriolic had roles been reversed."
is just a spiteful loaded statment intended to cause an argument, your credability is very limited as it is, you have just lowered it even further.
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