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    Posted: 31 May 2009 at 6:54pm
Just spent a very pleasant afternoon watching Lancashire put Leicestershire to the sword. While a bit one-sided Grace Road looked superb and we even had the luxury of not having to sit in plastic buckets. Anyone watching on Sky would have seen my lads bouncing around.

The match was of course dominated by South African and Australian batsmen but it was good to see the Foxes field some youngsters, including a young left-arm quick called Harry Gurney who impressed and took a couple of wickets while fielding well. He's 22 so I'm surprised he hasn't played more but possibly a name to watch out for.
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Just to get this thread back on track - The Official James Taylor Thread as it now ought to be - I'm just back from watching the young man playing in person for the first time, and I'm impressed.

The lad is tiny - so short in fact that when he tucks his shirt in, half of his number disappears - but he can play. The easiest way to describe him would be as a right handed Eoin Morgan, all flicks, nudges and paddles, in the short form of the game anyway, and he's not short on confidence either.

Admittedly on the night he was overshadowed by a colossal performance by Jim Allenby, who I have rated for a few years despite him only occasionally demonstrating why. Tonight it all fell into place with a marvellous 110 off 58 balls, without ever looking like he has having to try all that hard, and then followed up with 3-25 as well.
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Just spent a very pleasant afternoon watching Lancashire put Leicestershire to the sword. While a bit one-sided Grace Road looked superb and we even had the luxury of not having to sit in plastic buckets. Anyone watching on Sky would have seen my lads bouncing around.

The match was of course dominated by South African and Australian batsmen but it was good to see the Foxes field some youngsters, including a young left-arm quick called Harry Gurney who impressed and took a couple of wickets while fielding well. He's 22 so I'm surprised he hasn't played more but possibly a name to watch out for.


In the 2 subsequent matches Gurney has taken 1-18 and 3-21. Looking forward to seeing how he goes once 1st class cricket returns.
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I saw the 3-21 and he bowled nicely there - fairly brisk with a nice touch of hostility
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Just to get this thread back on track - The Official James Taylor Thread as it now ought to be - I'm just back from watching the young man playing in person for the first time, and I'm impressed.The lad is tiny - so short in fact that when he tucks his shirt in, half of his number disappears - but he can play. The easiest way to describe him would be as a right handed Eoin Morgan, all flicks, nudges and paddles, in the short form of the game anyway, and he's not short on confidence either.Admittedly on the night he was overshadowed by a colossal performance by Jim Allenby, who I have rated for a few years despite him only occasionally demonstrating why. Tonight it all fell into place with a marvellous 110 off 58 balls, without ever looking like he has having to try all that hard, and then followed up with 3-25 as well.


Thanks Clobber, didn't know this thread was here.

James Taylor failed when we went but I see he's done okay in the last couple of games.

My lad is quite small for his age so we'll be looking out for him as an inspiration. I liked his attitude - he came back from his failure to field superbly for a run out and Nixon's hands must have been stinging at his routine returns. Like his attitude, good one day record already and seems feisty.

Any idea why Gurney has played so little cricket at 22?
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I think for all their trumpeting of their youth system Leics have had a poor record in giving youngsters a go, especially in the bowling department: Chris Liddle was never given a fair go despite looking good any time he got a shot, Ryan Cummings never really knew where he stood one week to the next and Nick Walker was sufficiently disenchanted to give up cricket and become a businessman! 
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5 wickets for Gurney in a long spell when at one point it looked like they were in for a lot of leather chasing.

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Brilliant show by Freddie with the bat albeit against weak bowling. But 93 off 41 is special. Good to see him back in form with the bat. A fully fit in form Flintoff could do wonders for England in the Ashes. Go England!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 June 2009 at 11:22am
Never mind that, what about Cook scoring a hundred off 57 balls?
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I never knew that. It sounds great!! I have always felt Cook should play for England in all versions of the game. He is better than Shah any day.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 June 2009 at 1:18pm
Quite right Zuhair, no need playing two guys up front when you know when is gonna go early.  Cook will add stability to the ODI side, KP usually comes in way too early sometimes.  Leave Cook out of T20 though.
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James Taylor piled up a sensational unbeaten double hundred for Leics against Surrey today
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Amazing escape for Leics today at Derby. 7 second innings wickets down and still 90-odd behind Derby's first innings, my boy James Taylor and Jigar Naik set a new all-time club record for an 8th wicket stand, with a partnership of 195.

Taylor just missed out on a ton, the third time he's gone between 88 and 100 this season or he'd now have 5 Championship hundreds, but Naik - previous highest score 16! - ended undefeated on 109, not bad for his first game back after 6 weeks out with a broken arm.
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Wow Taylor basically has 5 tons and he's only 19. Cook was brought into the side as a 20 year old, so perhaps Taylor will be groomed for England duties.
       Getting out between 88 and 100 is probably just an indicator of a bit of nerves, which you'd expect from a young bloke. But the fact that he already has a double ton would certainly show that there's no issues with his temperament. For England's sake he needs to be treated well, nobody wants to see another Graeme Hick or Mark Ramprakash in the side.
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It may well be nerves, I don't know. He missed out yesterday when he ran down the wicket, but also ran past the ball. I know one of the 90's he was out slogging as he was batting with No 11, so that is pretty blameless.

I noticed one of the cricket writers in the paper was describing him as possibly the find of the season, and the one thing I would say for him is that he's been batting at 6 in this dire Leics side with Dippenaar being mostly rubbish, and Ackerman playing well without making too many scores, so he invariably comes in during a crisis so I personally believe he's made of the right stuff and has a temperament to do very well for himself.
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We've seen guys make the national side doing a lot less than what he has done. Imagine talk of him coming into the England set up and a bloke 20 years older in Ramps coming in! Thankfully England are not looking to him, way too early to call in an U-19 player, but from the sounds of it he has the makings of a top class player. Playing under that sort of pressure as a 19 year old means that he's got his mind in the right place. Stephen Waugh made 10 90s in test cricket, even after 100 tests and thousands of runs he still got nerves in the 90s - I don't think it's a big issue, although it would disappoint Taylor a lot to be missing out on well deserved tons.
      Dippenaar has always been rubbish, probably a wasted investment for Leics. Always had the ability, but his technique isn't refined enough and I think he's not in the right place mentally.
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All the Sky Sports commentators were drooling over Taylor last night after a very nice 95 in the Pro 40 against Kent - yes, another 90-odd! This time he selflessly ran himself out in slog overs.

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Too many player fallin in Sachin text book these days. Being out in the 90-odd after a superb innings

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Too many player fallin in Sachin text book these days. Being out in the 90-odd after a superb innings



Michael Slater and Stephen Waugh must have been the worst!
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Salim Malik was not too far either.
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Yerp, there's a few. I think Rahul is up there too and anyone really who has played over 100 tests and is a top/middle order batsman will have a few 90s. I suspect Fleming would have a few considering he got so many 50s and so few 100s in comparison.
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Fleming never got to the 90's, he got out in the 60's.
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He had something like 9 tons and 45 half tons or something crazy like that. Really odd stat , especially since he was quite a fine batsman. When he did get past 100 he did go on and make big scores though. 
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Guess who got another century today Cool - despite having to bat around the tail again for most of his innings, and against a rampant Kaneria who was nonchalantly knocking over the first 6 wickets.

Given his run of nearly-but-not-quite hundreds, you have to hand it to him for moving from 83 to 101 in the space of 6 balls.
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Looking forward to seeing this lad in the future but I always have doubts on folks who start off very brightly, history has shown a bad fate to them.

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Absolutely, it is no guarantee of success, but the manner and circumstances of the runs give me grounds for optimism - which is tempered by the fact that he hardly made a run in his last series with the England U19's.

I'll be very unhappy if he isn't part of the England Lions squad this winter.
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http://www.cricinfo.com/england/content/current/story/426024.html

Clobber's favourite young prodigy James Taylor has won young cricketer of the year award (ousting Stuart Broad!).
      Really looking forward to seeing this young man. England have been looking for their Sachin, Lara or Ponting for a while and he could be that man (albeit KP ain't half bad ).

Do you guys reckon come next year after he's turned 20 that he could have a shot in the test side if the middle order is still having a few issues? He seems pretty mature from what his performances have shown, but he needs to be treated really well by management of course so that he can continue to improve.


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I doubt he will be in Test contention next season. This was his first full season and there is every chance he will suffer second season syndrome and find life a little harder. Cynics will also point out that he made all his runs in the second division, and even Phil Hughes looked good against those bowling attacks.

As I said before he should definitely be a part of forthcoming England Lions' squads though.
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Phillip Hughes is a top talent and Taylor must be without doubt as well. Hughes made a hell of a lot of runs over here in Australia against top notch pace bowling and did the same against SA. He played 3 innings in the Ashes and got dropped unjustifiably for mine.
      I don't think we should be too cynical of Taylor at this stage. You don't make double tons and consistently post 80s and 100s if you're a poor cricketer. I'm not saying he's ready for test cricket, but jeez with those kind of performances he must have a hint of talent!!!!!
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Cynics will also point out that he made all his runs in the second division, and even Phil Hughes looked good against those bowling attacks.


   The subtlety of the man's jibes just gets better and better.  Class.


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