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Originally posted by top-of-off why would people shout at you? Its your own opinion and they should respect that. I agree, he is a delightful batsman to watch.

I don't recall shouting at anyone, I do recall saying that Ramps is a damn fine batsman, my view on him is well known, but to suggest he is better than some of the finest talents ever to grace the game - sheer madness.

Originally posted by W.G. Originally posted by top-of-off why would people shout at you? Its your own opinion and they should respect that. I agree, he is a delightful batsman to watch. I don't recall shouting at anyone, I do recall saying that Ramps is a damn fine batsman, my view on him is well known, but to suggest he is better than some of the finest talents ever to grace the game - sheer madness.

youre right, he isn't anywhere near as good as the top crop of batsmen, I never said he was. It was Vaughan that said that. All I was saying is that's his opinion and people should respect that, even if it's not correct in other people's eyes.

Wasn't taking a stab at you mate.

It shows that the required mentality is a totally different concept at test level, which proves anyone wrong who believes county cricket, or any other form of cricket for that matter, is near in contest.

Ramprakash has been a prolific runscorer at County level for many , many years.  He's got every shot in the book and technically looks as nigh perfect as anyone playing the game today.
     Sadly , he just couldn't produce at the highest level on a regular basis. The selectors were extremely patient with him , knowing just how talented he was , but in the end he just had to be dropped.

     His legacy might well read something along the lines "A naturally gifted batsman , fluent , asthetically pleasing , a run machine , but............"

     You can guess the rest.

Cullinan had everything too 143 - a real class act and still the youngest South African to score a 1st class hundred when still only 16. 
    Warne definitely messed with his head and Cullinan just had no answer. The funny thing was that he played spin really well - except Warne. He made plenty of runs on the subcontinent and was a real treat to watch. He scored quickly and was especially good through the cover region.

  The mental glitch was evident whenever SA played Australia and for that reason Cullinan won't be remembered as a South African great. 

 Yes Bondy there's many a batsman who maximised what natural talent they possessed by concentrating incredibly hard - Mike Atherton and Gary Kirsten are two that come to mind , along with Richardson.

 Hard to tell - but when it came to bloodymindedness he was up there with the best!

Not a great judge then ehh top-of (wasn't that a monkey in the 70s children show Pipkins)?  Collingwood is a class act, always has been - ask Warney why he tried to wind him up so much.

Odd opinion, Collingwood is one of the finest timers of a stroke you are ever likely to see.

Originally posted by W.G. Odd opinion, Collingwood is one of the finest timers of a stroke you are ever likely to see.

through hard work, all the commentators say he works harder than most at his batting, I am not knocking the mans ability at all but I dont think he is as naturally gifted at timing the ball than the guys like Pietersen or Flintoff. Boycott says it perfectly "Collingwood uses every ounce of his ability"

Yep Shoaib, those were the days of watching some good test cricket. You had to be patient and very gritty with those fellas.