4 or 6 ? Please help?

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   hi guys, im now working in South Africa at a school for part of my gap year, recently whilst umpiring a school game, a lad hit the ball and it landed on the rope, is this a 6 or a 4? 
i thought it was a 4, but the other ump signalled 6, i thought it was 4 becuase i wathced a game a few years back where New Zealand needed 6 off the last ball, and the guy hit it over fine leg, and it landed on the rope and was classed as a 4!

any help appreciated!
thanks guys

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crick Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Square Leg Joined: 06 February 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 398	Post Options Post Reply Quote crick Report Post Quote Reply Topic: 4 or 6 ? Please help? Posted: 08 February 2007 at 3:42pm
	hi guys, im now working in South Africa at a school for part of my gap year, recently whilst umpiring a school game, a lad hit the ball and it landed on the rope, is this a 6 or a 4? i thought it was a 4, but the other ump signalled 6, i thought it was 4 becuase i wathced a game a few years back where New Zealand needed 6 off the last ball, and the guy hit it over fine leg, and it landed on the rope and was classed as a 4! any help appreciated! thanks guys
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Chin Music Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Extra Cover Joined: 26 September 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 595	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chin Music Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 February 2007 at 3:43pm
	It's a six
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Clobber Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 03 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8838	Post Options Post Reply Quote Clobber Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 February 2007 at 3:46pm
	I was at an FC game last season where it happened and it's definitely 6 as Chin Music says

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	six 4 sure
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shan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Wicket-Keeper Joined: 30 December 2005 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 1324	Post Options Post Reply Quote shan Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 February 2007 at 12:48pm
	And I think by 4 you mean for, not four. If the ball touches the rope as it lands on the ground, it is a definate six and this is what being practised these days.
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SL lion Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Short Leg Utter Utter Twat Joined: 23 January 2007 Location: Sri Lanka Online Status: Offline Posts: 79	Post Options Post Reply Quote SL lion Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 February 2007 at 1:30pm
	as i know, if ball hits the top of the rope it is six and if the ball hits the inside edge of the rope its four. not sure tho.

Chin Music Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List Extra Cover Joined: 26 September 2006 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 595	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chin Music Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 February 2007 at 1:34pm
	If it touches any part the rope before touching the ground it's a six, because touching the rope counts as clearing the rope, which is why when the ball rolls against it and doesn't cross it's a four
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W.G. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Wicket-Keeper Joined: 04 January 2007 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1833	Post Options Post Reply Quote W.G. Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 February 2007 at 5:09pm
	'tis indeed a six - though there was an interesting happening in the recent VB series. In one match the ball hit the advertising triangle section around the boundary and was called 4, in another game the same happened and was called 6. Turned out in the first game the triangle section was placed in front of the boundary rope whilst in the second the rope went through the centre of the triangular section. Begs the question "why do it like that?" for the first game!!
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70_degree_spin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Opener Joined: 05 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2252	Post Options Post Reply Quote 70_degree_spin Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 February 2007 at 7:15pm
	does anyone know when the rule got changed when you could catch a ball outside the boundary? I have heard of Steve Waugh taking a catch round the sightscreen but I'm not sure about it. Does anyone know?
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fishcake14 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Opener Joined: 11 May 2006 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 2173	Post Options Post Reply Quote fishcake14 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 February 2007 at 7:25pm
	That's six as well because you'd be over the boundary rope.


70_degree_spin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Opener Joined: 05 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2252	Post Options Post Reply Quote 70_degree_spin Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 February 2007 at 7:33pm
	i know, i think you misread my post fishy
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fishcake14 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Opener Joined: 11 May 2006 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 2173	Post Options Post Reply Quote fishcake14 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 February 2007 at 7:33pm
	. Oops, silly me! The answer is no to that question though!


marto43 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List 12th Man Joined: 13 February 2007 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 14	Post Options Post Reply Quote marto43 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:15am
	I dunno what is so difficult i;m not saying u have to get it right or umpires should know every rule in the book, but obviously it is a bit of a geryspot and needs to be cleared up by the icc or whoever is in charge. The book can only say 1 thing.