may be that is right shan

Yeah i think so. But lets see what goes on. At least there would be a result.

I think what happened to our legendary batsmen (both the teams), they were used to easy going wickets with a lot of tons under their belt and were stunned to see this sort of wicket at Karachi. Now this is the real test. Pakistanis openers have done a good job. If middle orders clicks, Pakistan for sure is the favourite coz its not easy to bat in fourth innings.

Originally posted by shan And if u need a batsman wicket keeper, Dravid is at par in keeping standard with Dhoni. Isn't he?

no way ,,,Dhoni is a good keeper ,, he has improved a lot

 anyways what do u say ,,, Pakistan are at advantage now ?

156 runs ahead and still 8 wickets in hand ?

Come on Krisdy. Dhoni needs to concentrate much more on his keeping, thats what every team expects from a wicket keeper. Batting must be on second place. I would prefer a first class wc with second class batting, but would never go for second class WC with A++ batsman.

I dont object your views,,, but what i say is Bhajji and Kumble are difficult to keep wickets to .Even Mongia ,karim and MSK got hit by kumble due to ackward bounce.

regarding the stumping miss ,, that was uneven bounce .

But wht u say about patan's regualtion catch drop by akmal in second test?

Dhoni has idolised Gilli for so long ,,,, even gilchrist would be proud if dhoni attains Gilchrist's stds

One failure dosent take anything away from Dhoni ..... I am surprised at people from other countries trying to label Dhoni as crap batsman just after one innings failure.

All I have to say to them is wait and watch him grow taller then anyone .........remember 183 hightest by wicketkeeper , 148 ,,, and just Second test match 143 under tremendous pressure are signs of a true quality player ...

Moreover mini ,, you told "he can hit in only small grounds" ,,,, sorry did you see his 4 sixes in second test match ,,,, and esp six of Kaneria ,,, that was the hughest six ever hit ,,,, it went out of the stadium and some 50 yards after the stadium and fell in a ditch and it was completely wet.

He plays with straingt bat and has awsome power .... when he gets going ,,no one can stop ,,,,in fact when he plays normally his strike rate will be more than 100 .... just imagine the day he would loose his mind ,,,, I just hope that he dosent pick aussies on his day.

I bet mini one day when he will play aussies ......will make your doubt clear. 

Welcome back MinieWarney, nice to see u back to add some spices to the forum.

As they say, "when i was born i was so surprised that i did not talk for one and a half year".

This world is so much full of wonders. Say for example they some people call Dhoni a great wicket keeper batsman, at par with Gilli.

Originally posted by saadadvanced7 Anyway... Shoaib wouldn't apologize to an Indian. That's why he didn't apologize after delivering a beamer.

then Dhoni will make him pay for that in third test match ,,,probably today

Simply a wave of hand can also be taken as apology. It does not necessarily mean that the bowler should bow before the batsman and beg his pardon.

Originally posted by vize May be he did not know it was a beamer.