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Posted: 03 November 2009 at 9:10am

Kuhn is the future , much tidier behind the stumps than van Wyk. Not much in the batting as yet though.]]> Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:10:11 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=202109#202109 Best batsman of modern era : Heino Kuhn is an excellent bat/wk.... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=202107#202107 Author: milkman
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Posted: 03 November 2009 at 9:03am

Heino Kuhn is an excellent bat/wk. Morne van Wyk is impressive too.

Edited by milkman - 03 November 2009 at 9:33am]]> Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:03:23 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=202107#202107 Best batsman of modern era : I guess ABD will be their future... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=202106#202106 Author: zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 03 November 2009 at 9:02am

I guess ABD will be their future skipper Milks. Also how good is Mark Boucher's replacement there? ]]> Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:02:10 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=202106#202106 Best batsman of modern era : Future skipper I think as well.... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=202102#202102 Author: milkman
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Posted: 03 November 2009 at 8:54am

Future skipper I think as well. Definitely more potential as skipper than Hashim Amla who they have touted as potential skipper too... no doubt.]]> Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:54:22 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=202102#202102 Best batsman of modern era : Duminy's maturity is quite... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=202099#202099 Author: Sledger
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Posted: 03 November 2009 at 8:50am

Duminy's maturity is quite startling , he had nowt 12 months ago and now he's loaded. His feet are firmly on the ground and when interviewed he comes across as extremely modest. I foresee him eventually batting at 4 for SA (maybe 3 or 4 years time) and also getting 10 or so overs an innings - he's not the worst offie around and he will improve. Add to that , he's no slouch in the field!]]> Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:50:15 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=202099#202099 Best batsman of modern era : JP Duminywill be there in 5 years... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201997#201997 Author: MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 02 November 2009 at 2:32pm

JP Duminy will be there in 5 years time for sure when a similar thread will be created by someone.

Edited by MalhotraRaj84 - 02 November 2009 at 2:33pm]]> Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:32:45 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201997#201997 Best batsman of modern era : the topic states 'modern... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201995#201995 Author: milkman
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Posted: 02 November 2009 at 2:22pm

the topic states 'modern era' not 'last year'.]]> Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:22:10 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201995#201995 Best batsman of modern era : maybe in about 25 hundreds time ... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201992#201992 Author: Clobber
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Posted: 02 November 2009 at 2:19pm

maybe in about 25 hundreds time]]> Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:19:33 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201992#201992 Best batsman of modern era : Where is JP Duminy in this poll... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201853#201853 Author: JAKKA
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Posted: 01 November 2009 at 9:28pm

Where is JP Duminy in this poll ??

]]> Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:28:34 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201853#201853 Best batsman of modern era : It like Dravid milky, I don't... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201850#201850 Author: spin wizard
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Posted: 01 November 2009 at 7:28pm

It like Dravid milky, I don't think he'll ever retire, he loves the game too much. The selectors will have to keep on ignoring him as far as I'm concerned. he had a very rotten patch and if one doesn't call it a day after that, I don't think they ever will. ]]> Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:28:13 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201850#201850 Best batsman of modern era : oh dear you ve missed my simple... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201837#201837 Author: punterrulz
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Posted: 01 November 2009 at 1:15pm

oh dear you ve missed my simple point. My point is that richards IS a great player. You look at his record over 121 tests and its good but not great. the fact he played on for as long as he did dosent do the man justice. Im not arguing with you in agreeing with you.]]> Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:15:20 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201837#201837 Best batsman of modern era : Mate look at all his awards. top... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201832#201832 Author: milkman
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Posted: 01 November 2009 at 12:54pm

Mate look at all his awards. top 5 greatest according to wisden of the 20th C.... Go to his wikipedia page and it summarises which players thought he was the best and all his wisden accolades, including best ever ODI player. since you seem to regard wisden so highly might be worth a look.

]]> Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:54:50 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201832#201832 Best batsman of modern era : Thats right. You cant judge on... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201831#201831 Author: punterrulz
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Posted: 01 November 2009 at 12:53pm

Thats right. You cant judge on stats because richards s stats are ****! he was much better then his stats. You cant be a bad player and have a great record either though. ]]> Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:53:28 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201831#201831 Best batsman of modern era : Maybe he kept playing out of purer... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201829#201829 Author: milkman
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Posted: 01 November 2009 at 12:48pm

Maybe he kept playing out of purer love of the game. Why would you stop something you love, are still good at (but not as good as you used to be because of age for instance)? This is why I don't judge on stats.]]> Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:48:29 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201829#201829 Best batsman of modern era : Clobber, fizzled out early in... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201828#201828 Author: punterrulz
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Posted: 01 November 2009 at 12:47pm

Clobber, fizzled out early in terms of form, not left the game entirely. That is my point richards was a much better batsmen then his record indicates. 39 when when he packed up test cricket? my point entirely! he played on too long and his record suffered for it. I dont think he played on because hes selfless, i think he didn't know when to retire, the west indian selectors finally dropped him before the 1992 world cup. Did the same to lara after he had a brilliant seriers against pakistan in 2006.]]> Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:47:12 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201828#201828 Best batsman of modern era : As I stated Viv is one of the... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201742#201742 Author: milkman
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Posted: 31 October 2009 at 1:38pm

As I stated Viv is one of the best of the modern era. Punter get a grip, batting now is a lot different to before. Wickets are flatter, grounds are smaller and faster, bats are bigger, the game is more professional, etc. Batting now is much, much easier than it was in the 90s and before. Especially in the 70s when Viv played a lot of his cricket. I'd rather face Hilfenhaus and Siddle than Lilllee and Thommo that's for certain.]]> Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:38:29 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201742#201742 Best batsman of modern era : He hardly fizzled out early, he... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201739#201739 Author: Clobber
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Posted: 31 October 2009 at 1:30pm

He hardly fizzled out early, he was 39 when he packed up Test cricket. He might not have been the player he was, but he still was averaging 44 over the last 4 years of his career which was a damn good average in that era, and the only reason he kept going was a selfless one as the West Indies needed him to lead the team through the transition from the great 80's unit.]]> Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:30:36 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201739#201739 Best batsman of modern era : Yeah if your talking the last... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201685#201685 Author: punterrulz
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Posted: 31 October 2009 at 5:09am

Yeah if your talking the last 25 years the best batsmen thing is different. The last decade lara, ponting and tendy have been the standouts but since about 1980 you d have to include others. Lets go for the top 5 since 1980. Still lara, ponting, tendulkar, richards, gavaskar. Yeah not sure about that. Richards was good and tore attacks apart early in hes career like no other batsmen we ve seen. He played on too long though and hes career record dosent do him justice. Played about 50 tests too many. Although more tests are played these days and the players score more runs in shorter periods of time I still think lara, ponting and tendy have played at a higher level for longer then richards. Richards, great player but fizzeled out very early. ]]> Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:09:20 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201685#201685 Best batsman of modern era : Ponting is still miles better... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201684#201684 Author: milkman
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Posted: 31 October 2009 at 2:28am

Ponting is still miles better than Gayle on that front. I've actually seen teams use short pitch bowling as a strategy to get Ponting out. Of course Ponting gets out to the pull and hook, it's because he plays it so often, but feeding him short balls just makes me laugh. Another top play of the horizontal strokes was Adam Gilchrist. Played a hell of a lot of cricket at the WACA which helps.]]> Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:28:36 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201684#201684 Best batsman of modern era : Ponting and Gayle are the two... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201677#201677 Author: spin wizard
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Posted: 30 October 2009 at 4:03pm

Ponting and Gayle are the two best players of short fast bowling I've seen. Gayle has height so he would have less fear of bowlers and not to mention his weight is always on the backfoot. Harmison in his pomp bowling short stuff use to get dispatch back down to the square boundary. Ponting is just superb, anything slighty short goes!]]> Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:03:25 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201677#201677 Best batsman of modern era : I think Sachin is probably the... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201674#201674 Author: milkman
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Posted: 30 October 2009 at 3:41pm

I think Sachin is probably the best since Bradman (or at least top 5) and Lara has the most flair of recent times, but neither of them can play the straight drive or hook/pull better than he. Not even Sachin can hook 6s off the front foot at will like Punter can.]]> Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:41:53 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201674#201674 Best batsman of modern era : Yeah, Sachin is more of a complete... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201673#201673 Author: spin wizard
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Posted: 30 October 2009 at 3:38pm

Yeah, Sachin is more of a complete player than lara. You basically got more chances with Lara because of that flashing blade and from Ponting because he can get lbw's or the away swinger from back of a length just outside off because of his footworks but that shows how good he is. He still ends up getting lots of runs flicking through mid wicket although that can be one way of working him over. Finger spin is his biggest weakness, he has quick reaction so the back of a length away swingers are negated well most of the times.

I feel for spinners you have to be more still then move when the length is picked up, Ponting is more on the move than Sachin. Sachin just uses a little stride forward to spinners nagging on a length, he has his own way and that's why they just have to be marginally back of a length for him to cut and pull them.

]]> Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:38:16 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201673#201673 Best batsman of modern era : I feel that Ponting is effective,... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201672#201672 Author: milkman
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Posted: 30 October 2009 at 2:22pm

I feel that Ponting is effective, in that he makes a lot of runs, but he's not as flamboyant (like Lara) or technically sound (like Sachin) as Lara and Sachin. Sachin is the ideal package and Lara is just brilliant to watch. Don't get me wrong Ricky is wonderful to watch when on song, but I always feel you can get him early on with that newish ball when he plants his front foot. I also think he's quite suspect to finger spin, mostly off spin. Sachin has almost no weaknesses, a few little things here and there but nothing overawing. That's why Sachin's the best in my opinion. He's just a total package. ]]> Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:22:52 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201672#201672 Best batsman of modern era : I can see the argument, surely,... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201669#201669 Author: spin wizard
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Posted: 30 October 2009 at 2:09pm

I can see the argument, surely, statistically at least, Ponting must be on a list of the best batsman for this decade, especially between 2003 up to 2008 I think where he was in a kind of form that some players has never even dreamed of being in.]]> Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:09:40 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201669#201669 Best batsman of modern era : Well Ponting missing in poll is... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201667#201667 Author: MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 30 October 2009 at 1:54pm

Well Ponting missing in poll is a mismatch in current day context or even in 2006, but we have seen Good Ponting from debut till 2001/2002 and Excellent Ponting then on till now.

The thread seems of started by someone in 2006.So maybe this thread needs to be closed.

Edited by MalhotraRaj84 - 30 October 2009 at 1:58pm]]> Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:54:22 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201667#201667 Best batsman of modern era : The pressure isn't "less"... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201666#201666 Author: milkman
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Posted: 30 October 2009 at 1:48pm

The pressure isn't "less" for Ricky, it's just different. He has to compete for his spot in the side, he has to skipper the side as well and has come under a lot of fire throughout (Lara and Sachin both couldn't handle captaincy particularly well to be quite frank) and he a VERY high expectation placed on him. That's still a lot of pressure mate. Any test match is pressure and Ricky is not one to shirk responsibility.

]]> Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:48:41 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201666#201666 Best batsman of modern era : I think Sachin handles pressure... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201664#201664 Author: milkman
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Posted: 30 October 2009 at 1:42pm

I think Sachin handles pressure absolutely fine. You can't say he doesn't perform when it counts, because he does time and time again.
Ponting is a matchwinner, but then again when he plays Australia always won no matter what because the side was great. Lara was a top batsman, but how'd he have performed when playing with Viv, Lloyd, etc. Better or worse? Perhaps that would have brought out way more from him. Who knows? You can't just second guess. Look at the player, look at his performances, look at his strengths and weaknesses and look at his record home and away. Sachin has virtually no weaknesses and he has performed on every continent against every side against every type of bowling and on all sorts of wickets. He faced Wasim, Warne, Donald, Ambrose, Murali etc all in their pomp. For mine he is the best, hands down, no one betters him. Not only has he made a zillion runs, he's hard to get out and he scores at an extremely high rate (just look at his ODI SR of 88, that's ridiculous for a man who averages 45 and bats at the top of the order). Sachin is a freak. The best batsman I have ever seen.
]]> Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:42:53 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201664#201664 Best batsman of modern era : Spot on Raj, I can assure you... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201663#201663 Author: spin wizard
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Posted: 30 October 2009 at 1:40pm

Spot on Raj, I can assure you Ponting had an easier time than lara and Tendulkar, who could be in with plenty shine still on that cherry. In Lara's case, it happened quite often.

]]> Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:40:19 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201663#201663 Best batsman of modern era : Dhoni just showed to everyone... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201662#201662 Author: MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 30 October 2009 at 1:37pm

Dhoni just showed to everyone that batsman comming lower down the order seldom get opportunity to hit centuries, so players like Steve,Bevan,Inzi and many more lower down the order palyers will not score that much centuries/runs. However rarely you will find players like Sachin and Lara who come at the top hit the winning runs or stay till the end, so if you feel they are not match winners then it is wrong. Just if you see the statistics you will see that all these players are matchwinners. When they perform their team wins.

Now Ricky ponting has been one of "the" best post 2001-02, no doubts about it.He has been in a strong team, where pressure is less, has had very good openers which means used to come fairly at settled score.I am not taking anything away from Ponting.He has been great batsman, but comparing players is wrong.You would get nothing from this excersise.

]]> Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:37:23 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201662#201662 Best batsman of modern era : Me fed up tell people Tendulkar... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=712&PID=201659#201659 Author: spin wizard
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Posted: 30 October 2009 at 1:33pm

Me fed up tell people Tendulkar will hardly appear on a winning list when he mek runs because he has played with a team that hasn't really had a great bowling attack, it was just of late they had a good run because Khan and Sharma were inform and bowling well, along with that legend Kumble and Harbhajan wasn't too bad.

Tendulkar hardly plays in 5 match Test series so he'll highly unlikely get loads of runs in a series.

And for the record, me hate it when people ah say about match winning knocks. Hell, Lara hammered a blistering 221 against the might of Warne, McGrath, MacGill (who has bowling well them times) and Lee and still ended up losing because of a poor team.

If you're using those stuff to discount Tendulkar, Ponting shouldn't be there because he can't bat finger spin!

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