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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : I&amp;#039;m just being flippant mate,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2297">bondy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 December 2007 at 9:55pm<br /><br />I'm just being flippant mate, not to worry- I like Hadlee's the greatest ever ;)]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : What??? Is that Bondy?? Are you...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=837">spin wizard</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 December 2007 at 7:49pm<br /><br />What??? Is that Bondy?? Are you still having a hangover mate?]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : No. </title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2297">bondy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 December 2007 at 11:46am<br /><br />No.]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : Bondy, you still haven&amp;#039;t...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=837">spin wizard</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 December 2007 at 1:22am<br /><br />Bondy, you still haven't answered his question about Hadlee.]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : he sure is, big weekend now that...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2297">bondy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 December 2007 at 1:03am<br /><br />he sure is, big weekend now that exams are over. In terms of batsman, yes Crowe is the only great, Glen Turner, Martin Donnelly, ummm Astle and of course Fleming can not be considered 'great', though Cairns was a world class all-rounder in his prime.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=837">spin wizard</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 December 2007 at 12:53am<br /><br />Bondy is having a hangover mate.]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : so you don&amp;#039;t consider Hadlee...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4012">canadiancricket</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 December 2007 at 10:22pm<br /><br />so you don't consider Hadlee a great huh.&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : certainly, except if we&amp;#039;re...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2297">bondy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 December 2007 at 10:11pm<br /><br />certainly, except if we're looking at it on a global stage Martin Crowe is the only NZ'er that can be considered 'great' in my opinion.]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : Looking only at NZ cricketers,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4012">canadiancricket</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 December 2007 at 3:28am<br /><br />Looking only at NZ cricketers, he is.&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : one of the finest NZ has produced,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2297">bondy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 December 2007 at 2:47am<br /><br />one of the finest NZ has produced, but I wouldn't call him 'great'.]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : True, true, mind you if you look...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=912">vettori no2</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 December 2007 at 5:22am<br /><br />True, true, mind you if you look at his good scores, and his captaincy and fielding, that is a great player.]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double :  Originally posted by spin wizardpeople...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2297">bondy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 December 2007 at 9:21pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by spin wizard</strong></em><br /><br />people with 40- averages don't perform as you would like them to in test cricket.</td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>best statement I've seen on cricketworld for a while.</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : Vettorino2, that is what separates...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4012">canadiancricket</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 December 2007 at 5:51pm<br /><br /><DIV>Vettorino2, that is what separates good players from great.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : You think that&amp;#039;s infuriating,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=837">spin wizard</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 December 2007 at 4:27pm<br /><br />You think that's infuriating, have a look at Chris Gayle -&nbsp;he's no different! It's simple really, people with 40- averages don't perform as you would like them to in test cricket.]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : Many kiwi&amp;#039;s have a love/hate...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=912">vettori no2</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 December 2007 at 9:25am<br /><br />Many kiwi's have a love/hate relationship with Fleming, It's so infuriating when we really need a good opening, and he gets out for 3 or something stupid. He will score nothing for 3 or 4 games, then get a brilliant ton! <img src="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : Definitely, Astle would be also....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2297">bondy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 July 2007 at 1:08pm<br /><br />Definitely, Astle would be also.]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : Fleming is definitely not the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3195">scuudz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 July 2007 at 6:15pm<br /><br />Fleming is definitely not the greatest ever NZ batsman.&nbsp; Martin Crowe and Glenn Turner would be higher on the list for me.&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : I would have to disagree, Martin...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2137">143no</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 July 2007 at 5:44pm<br /><br /><P>I would have to disagree, Martin Crowe for me, miles ahead of Fleming.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1885">afridi_fire</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 July 2007 at 5:38pm<br /><br />he is great the greatest batsman ever produced by NZ]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : No doubt Fleming is a good leader...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=39">sporty</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 July 2007 at 6:10am<br /><br />&nbsp;No doubt Fleming is a good leader but I don't I'd use the word "great" for his batting. He is a good batsman, one of New Zealand's finest cricketers, but not great.]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : fleming is a great batsman and...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1885">afridi_fire</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 June 2007 at 11:14pm<br /><br />fleming is a great batsman and a good leader]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : Stephen fleming also has a 189...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=643">Black_cap_95</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 January 2007 at 9:26am<br /><br />Stephen fleming also has a 189 against pakistan if i recall rightly great innings and a great partnership with vettori who also made a hundred]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : You know how some people say a...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=653">ANIL KUMBLE</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 June 2006 at 11:52am<br /><br />You know how some people say a kiwi who averages about 39 like Stephen Fleming is about 45 if you where playing for like australia which i agree,but if thats so then Jacob Oram who averages 48 in test cricket would mean 54 for another country.]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : well worth upping the thread for...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=739">Clobber</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 June 2006 at 9:11am<br /><br />well worth upping the thread for that&nbsp;<img src="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0">]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : i think it would be better if...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1280">dips_december</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 June 2006 at 8:49am<br /><br />i think it would be better if its said tha he is a good slipper]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1471">still not out</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 June 2006 at 5:27pm<br /><br />Classy batsman, Brilliant fielder.]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : -JP- has said what I have also...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=70">cricketluva</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 April 2006 at 7:26am<br /><br /><P>-JP- has said what I have also said too, his conversion rate is wayyy&nbsp; too low..</P><P>A good innings by Franklin too.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1280">dips_december</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 April 2006 at 5:39am<br /><br />he made a 274not out and this 262 whatwas the other score of 200+ made by him .ya exactly jp just 9 100's in 101 test is a bit too low for a player of his calibre but as the commentators say an avg of 38+ for a newzealander is an avg of 45+ in any other country .]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : He is NZ&amp;#039;s leading batsmen...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1360">mazzybabe.uk</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 April 2006 at 1:20pm<br /><br />He is NZ's leading batsmen and when people say new zealand only have 2 and a half batsmen Fleming equals a whole one and then the rest bat around him when fleming succeeds NZ succeeds thats why they lost the first test because Fleming failed.]]>
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   <title>Fleming’s 3rd double : Good batsman, but his conversion...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19">-JP-</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 1637<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 April 2006 at 1:08pm<br /><br /><P>Good batsman, but his conversion rate, i.e the amount of hundreds he gets compared to fifties holds him back when we consider him among the real greats of our era - Ponting, Dravid, Kallis, Tendulkar etc.</P><P>That said, his conversion rate of hundreds to doubles is very impressive.</P>]]>
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