Cricket Forum | Cricket Discussion Forum | Cricket : Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; Cricket Forum | Cricket Discussion Forum | Cricket : Domestic News : Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire Copyright (c) 2006-2009 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 23 May 2013 13:37:18 +0000 Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:47:06 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 9.71 360 www.cricketworld.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2992 Cricket Forum | Cricket Discussion Forum | Cricket http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_images/logo.png http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/ Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire : he has got to a reet start http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=138866#138866 Author: Bettis91
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Posted: 08 June 2007 at 7:47pm

he has got to a reet start

]]> Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:47:06 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=138866#138866 Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire : Good on the PCA , this should... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=112976#112976 Author: Sledger
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Posted: 30 January 2007 at 6:25am

  Good on the PCA , this should shake up the ECB !   It'sabout time the ECB supported it's own - if they're going to turn ablind eye on Kolpaks that have every intention of returning to theinternational fold , they're badly letting down aspiring Englandhopefuls.]]> Tue, 30 Jan 2007 06:25:54 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=112976#112976 Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire : Good call Sledger - if I remember... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=112256#112256 Author: -JP-
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Posted: 26 January 2007 at 12:20pm

Good call Sledger - if I remember correctly, Somerset have only ever had 1 Kolpak player, and that's Charl Willoughby. We've produced lots of youngsters, but they haven't set the world alight. Yet!

PCA are now demanding some answers:

http://www.cricketworld.com/england/county/yorkshire/article/?aid=9283
]]> Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:20:21 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=112256#112256 Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire : Maybe if they stopped producing... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111770#111770 Author: Kerm
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Posted: 25 January 2007 at 10:13am

Maybe if they stopped producing so many internationals they would win some games =P]]> Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:13:55 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111770#111770 Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire : Yes Clobs , the ECB has to continue... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111697#111697 Author: Sledger
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Posted: 25 January 2007 at 5:58am

  Yes Clobs , the ECB has to continue to shell out when countiesbring on their youngsters , giving them county exposure and hopefullythen into the international arena.
    No facts to back this up , but I'd think that Durhamhave probably brought on more youngsters than any other county inrecent years. Harmison , Collingwood , Plunkett and Pratt!
]]> Thu, 25 Jan 2007 05:58:31 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111697#111697 Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire : Just be thankful there isn't... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111410#111410 Author: W.G.
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Posted: 24 January 2007 at 10:32am

Just be thankful there isn't great interest in cricket across the wider European Union, particularly newer member states!!]]> Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:32:33 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111410#111410 Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire : Certainly there is nothing in... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111398#111398 Author: Clobber
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Posted: 24 January 2007 at 10:06am

Certainly there is nothing in law to prevent this. A gentleman's agreement could be put forward but that wouldn't last, so it may come back to the old suggestion of ensuring clubs are generously rewarded in financial terms by the ECB for bringing through players for the England team.]]> Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:06:10 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111398#111398 Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire : Dead right Clobs. The only loser... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111389#111389 Author: Sledger
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Posted: 24 January 2007 at 9:12am

 Dead right Clobs.  The only loser in this whole sorry sagaare young (and maybe not so young) English hopefuls.  Where is thebenefit to English cricket , either at test or county level , if theseguys can come and go as they choose?
    How to combat it , I'm not sure. The ECB can't banKolpaks , the lawsuits for restriction of trade would be numerous , butsurely there must be some way of securing the futures of English talent?
]]> Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:12:36 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111389#111389 Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire : That is how it seems to be Sledger,... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111384#111384 Author: Clobber
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Posted: 24 January 2007 at 9:01am

That is how it seems to be Sledger, and as I said, it is a total abuse of a system. It was bad enough as it was with players realising their international days were over and taking money out of our county game instead, and if clubs are now going to knowingly sign up players in the almost certain knowledge that contracts will not be fulfilled (all the while aiding the development of the SA national side) there has to come a point where we say 'no more'.]]> Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:01:56 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111384#111384 Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire : 70DS the Kolpak case set a precedent... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111368#111368 Author: Sledger
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Posted: 24 January 2007 at 6:18am

 70DS the Kolpak case set a precedent allowing non-English playersto play for counties , but not classing them as foreigners. Whetherthat's right or wrong , it was the high court that made that decisionand not English cricket.
     That the counties have been quick to take asmany overseas players that qualify , as they have is definitely areason for concern.

    Clobs is right , when the Kolpak players firstsigned for county sides , they effectively gave up internationalaspirations completely.
    Paul Harris played county cricket last season andwas supposed to return this season. But he was called up by SA and justchucked his kolpak contract into the bin!
    The players and their respective countries areseeming to have it both ways. You have to ask , do Cricket South Africacompensate the counties when the player reneges on an existingagreement?  I suspect they do , because the counties don't seem tobe making much fuss over the reversals being taken by certain players.
     Before Harris got the call , Claude Hendersonwas approached and the only reason he didn't play in the Indian serieswas because he asked cricket SA for a central contract - this theyrefused and for security reasons he's staying with his kolpak contract.
     It strikes me that it's a juggling act.Cricket SA save on a central contract for a fringe player by allowinghim to play in England , but if they need him back , they pay somelevel of compensation and have him released.
      If I'm right , the ICC should act.Contracts should be honoured , but I'm old fashioned and believe if youput your name to an agreement , it's set in stone.
]]> Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:18:01 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111368#111368 Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire : a classic case of how corrupt... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111305#111305 Author: 70_degree_spin
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Posted: 23 January 2007 at 7:40pm

a classic case of how corrupt cricket is, thi kolpak business is ridiculous and if you havnt got a citizenship then youre overseas pal, that simple.]]> Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:40:08 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111305#111305 Jacques Rudolph signs for Yorkshire : I have to say I am utterly bemused... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2992&PID=111232#111232 Author: Clobber
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Posted: 23 January 2007 at 5:14pm

I have to say I am utterly bemused by the news that Rudolph has signed a 3 year contract with Yorkshire as a Kolpak player.

As I understand the ruling the player must either not have played for at least 12 months at First Class level or higher (which Rudolph has, having played a Test as recently as August), or give up playing as a domestic player in his own country. Given that Rudolph has signed for Yorks after negotiations with the SA cricket board, who give their full support with a view to the player developing from the experience, it is clear that he is still in their plans to play internationally and thus remains a domestic player.

So unless I am missing something here, this is a blatant abuse of the system by all concerned - Yorkshire save an overseas player spot, SA get a player improving at someone else's expense, and Rudolph makes a nice salary that could have been used to bring on home talent - and no doubt when it suits 2 of the 3 parties he'll be back in the SA side renouncing his Kolpak status.


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