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Posted: 28 August 2010 at 7:54am

Difficult to say this, Sachin may not retire soon, while Ponting may retire a little early, but then AUS play more tests than IND in a calender year... If I were to guess, I'd say Sachin will remain at the top. ]]> Sat, 28 Aug 2010 07:54:01 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=208139#208139 most test runs : Yes I agree Ponting isn't... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204168#204168 Author: punterrulz
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Posted: 17 December 2009 at 12:33pm

Yes I agree Ponting isn't the greatest captain in the world but he maintains that side and I cant see anyone else doing a better job of that then him. And yes MalhotraRaj84 I think the aus media will certainly be the end of Ponting now if he has a slight off patch. I actually can no longer see him making the 2013 ashes and think tendulkar is now uncatchable by ponting or anyone else in terms of test runs. Tendulkar is just a bit too far in advance and as you said the indian media wont jump on him if he goes through a bad patch the way the aus media will with ponting. I dont understand the media obsession with negativity over older players out of form. Id like to see ponting go on to the 2013 ashes but unless he plays at his peak till then I think its an impossibility. I think next summer could be the end of ponting. But as milk said ponting has the desire to stay on as a batsmen regardless of captaincy but I think an attempt will be made sooner rather then later to rid this team of ponting and that is a sad thing.

Edited by punterrulz - 17 December 2009 at 12:36pm]]> Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:33:39 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204168#204168 most test runs : Oh yes buddy, there's hardly... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204166#204166 Author: spin wizard
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Posted: 17 December 2009 at 12:15pm

Oh yes buddy, there's hardly a better feeling out there than having a massive sleep!  Just a shame we have to wake up next day to go to school/work.]]> Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:15:35 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204166#204166 most test runs : Originally posted by SledgerI'm... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204161#204161 Author: bladescape
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Posted: 17 December 2009 at 7:08am

Originally posted by Sledger

I'm amazed that he's maintained such a level of excellence and managed to sleep at night !


Yeah,the sleeps the important bit! ]]> Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:08:42 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204161#204161 most test runs : Originally posted by spin wizardMilky,... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204154#204154 Author: DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 16 December 2009 at 9:26pm

Originally posted by spin wizard

Milky, it's not former Test players alone who thinks that way, even my father who supports the Aussie badly says Ponting is not a good captain.



I don't think anyone feels he is a great captain. he is good but not great although my mom feels that anyone who can maintain a rank no.1 position for long time has to be a great captain whether or not he has the best players in the world Remember the World XI lost to the Aussies in that series where Ponting was captain.

But I've never liked him much as a captain. Sometimes I feel Warne could have been captain but I don't think it would have mattered too much for the last 10 years.]]> Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:26:56 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204154#204154 most test runs : Yes. I agree look at my posts.... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204094#204094 Author: milkman
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Posted: 15 December 2009 at 12:53pm

Yes. I agree look at my posts. He said himself he'd quit captaincy and just play as a batsman. For mine that would be great for Aust cricket.]]> Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:53:57 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204094#204094 most test runs : Milky, it's not former Test... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204087#204087 Author: spin wizard
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Posted: 15 December 2009 at 12:45pm

Milky, it's not former Test players alone who thinks that way, even my father who supports the Aussie badly says Ponting is not a good captain.

]]> Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:45:08 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204087#204087 most test runs : That is captaincy , not his batting.... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204072#204072 Author: milkman
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Posted: 15 December 2009 at 12:26am

That is captaincy , not his batting. No one rates him as a captain. And it was not Aussie Media, it was one former cricketer who said that.]]> Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:26:27 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204072#204072 most test runs : punterluz you might have read... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204065#204065 Author: MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 14 December 2009 at 6:01pm

punterluz you might have read recent Aussie media asking Ponting to step down and Katich to lead instead.Get it from me, your Aussie media will ensure that Ponting will retire even before he reaches 37/38.India will easily accept tendulkar till 40's. One more thing Tendulkar will average 55 by the time he signs off or maybe more.]]> Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:01:03 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204065#204065 most test runs : No batsman has ever played under... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204057#204057 Author: Sledger
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Posted: 14 December 2009 at 1:13pm

No batsman has ever played under the pressure that Tendulkar has had to endure. The expectation has never dropped , especially when playing at home.  I'm amazed that he's maintained such a level of excellence and managed to sleep at night !]]> Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:13:18 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=204057#204057 most test runs : Yeah dont get me wrong tendulkar... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203957#203957 Author: punterrulz
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Posted: 10 December 2009 at 3:59pm

Yeah dont get me wrong tendulkar is still good and one of the best bats around but hes runs arent comming like they used to and ultimately in years to come people are going to rate him on his overall record and not just the earlier part.
 
I see him a little like viv richards. For people who dont know richards they will look at his record and see good stats with a 50 average and all but batsmen like richards cant be measured by stats alone. Hes far and away better then his stats as is tendulkar but the latter stages of their career pulls their stats down to a mediocre level for them. Lara was exceptional in that he was in fantastic form untill he was gotten rid of. I dont want to see tendulkars average and stats dwindle like richards's although id be very sad to see the end of tendulkar. And yes i know theres so much more to this then stupid stats.
]]> Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:59:21 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203957#203957 most test runs : Look, as far as I'm concerned,... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203934#203934 Author: spin wizard
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Posted: 10 December 2009 at 12:42pm

Look, as far as I'm concerned, Tendulkar hasn't done himself no harm by continuing playing.  He has still maintained a very good average in both Tests and ODI's and has even adapted to the T20 format for Mumbai in the IPL - it just shows how good he is.
 
The only thing he's lost is treating bowlers with disdain as he use to although at times it comes back.  A guy who's lost it still hammered 175 in an ODI?? Come on fellas, he is here for another few years and there is no batsman around today that I'd pay higher money to watch than Tendulkar, well, maybe Sehwag. Big%20smile
]]> Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:42:41 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203934#203934 most test runs : Yes thats what I said in an earlier... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203922#203922 Author: punterrulz
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Posted: 10 December 2009 at 11:34am

Yes thats what I said in an earlier post. He is doing himself no favours by continuing in the game as he is slowly going down hill with no chance of regaining anything of his former self. I fear it may be his declining years that he is remembered for most and not the time before his slow descent. I can pinpoint the exact time and this was indias tour to the west indies in 2001 I think it was. He scored his 29th century to equal bradman, was at the absolute peak of his game then on that same tour had a horrid run of scores and I dont think he has ever recovered since then.]]> Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:34:59 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203922#203922 most test runs : He's not the same since those... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203908#203908 Author: milkman
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Posted: 10 December 2009 at 11:17am

He's not the same since those tennis elbow and other injuries. Probably since 2001 or 2002 he's just a different player. I think for the sake of his legacy he should have retired, but obviously that means little to him. ]]> Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:17:19 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203908#203908 most test runs : The thing that annoys me a little... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203905#203905 Author: punterrulz
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Posted: 10 December 2009 at 11:13am

The thing that annoys me a little with tendulkar is that i think he is a much better player then his record suggests. I am personally dissappointed for him that people have tried to distract from his performances. I think he is a great batsmen and deserves all his accoloades but as with mark waugh people may in time question him as a batsmen. Hes not a big century maker, has lost a lot of his consistency which is natural with age and has quite a poor record in big matches overall. I think he is or has been much better then what he has done in the game. I know he has done alot and ppl may critisise me for saying it but most of his records have come from his longevity and not his greatness, i think he should have achieved more for his length of time in the game.]]> Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:13:06 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203905#203905 most test runs : Key word you have used to describe... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203902#203902 Author: milkman
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Posted: 10 December 2009 at 11:05am

Key word you have used to describe Sachin is hunger. He hasn't stopped playing cricket for probably 30 years now , since he was a kid and top level cricket for 20 years. I suppose even if he only played 60 tests he'd still be up there and the fact that the very best , Bradman, stated that Sachin was the one batsman he saw that was most similar to him (and Bradman saw all those played you mentioned above) then that's a big claim on his part. Sachin is in my top 5 batsmen ever that's for sure and I'm not a huge fan of his, although it might come across that way.]]> Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:05:20 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203902#203902 most test runs : Yeah there is a test seriers against... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203901#203901 Author: punterrulz
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Posted: 10 December 2009 at 11:02am

Yeah there is a test seriers against sth africa for dravid in march i think.  Also before that there is a two test seriers against bangladesh.
 
On an earlier theme, many of the greats are no where near the top of the run scoring list. Bradman, sobers, pollock, b richards, headley, weekes, huttpon, hammond, sutcliffe all these players greats of their time but due to their laxck of runs often dont rate a mention apart from bradman and sobers. Tendulkars 20 years at the top dont necessarily constitute greatness but a hunger and ability to stay in the team for a long period of time after being good enough at a very young age. I hate to think what graeme pollock would have done had he played more tests. I think we d all be rating him at number two in any all time list of gtreat batsmen.
]]> Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:02:45 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203901#203901 most test runs : Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi...... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203856#203856 Author: Sledger
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Posted: 09 December 2009 at 5:30am

Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

... to be on the stage for so long does indicate you have to be a very fine player. Fitness and longevity have to be given their due share when judging players.


 Agreed . Hunger goes a long way as well and I've a sneaking feeling that the top blokes quite like playing the game !Wink
]]> Wed, 09 Dec 2009 05:30:45 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203856#203856 most test runs : I never said Dravid will cross... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203785#203785 Author: DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 06 December 2009 at 3:40am

I never said Dravid will cross him guys. I'm just happy that he came this close and hope he makes two more hundreds. And I don't think there is a Test series against South Africa so even less time!

]]> Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:40:02 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203785#203785 most test runs : make that 7 more. http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203764#203764 Author: punterrulz
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Posted: 05 December 2009 at 4:11pm

make that 7 more.]]> Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:11:00 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203764#203764 most test runs : Yes milkman is right. Dravid is... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203763#203763 Author: punterrulz
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Posted: 05 December 2009 at 4:10pm

Yes milkman is right. Dravid is not the quitting type but i think this is the last test plays for a while. Ponting on the other hand has this test and 6 more in the next few months. I know dravid has 2 tests against bangladesh and 3 against sth africa a little later but he is 2 years older then ponting. He has cvome into some form though. I still think its a two horse race for this one with kallis being a dark horse but in his form i think hes almost gone too. If tendulkar plays till the 2011 world cup like he wants to he may be uncatchable. Can ponting score whats hes behind by after tendy retires? I think tendy could be unctachable in this regard.]]> Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:10:12 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203763#203763 most test runs : Ponting has a few more games to... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203761#203761 Author: milkman
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Posted: 05 December 2009 at 2:50pm

Ponting has a few more games to make some more runs. Don't think Rahul will overtake him DF I'm afraid. Dravid's been the most solid player for India for a long time and those 2 tons would have done a heck of a lot for his confidence. How much longer you reckon he's got? I think he never wants to retire but I don't think he'll want to be dropped and never picked again either. I reckon 1-2 years max, as there's some nice talent in India at the moment and the rest of the batsmen are doing well.]]> Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:50:50 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203761#203761 most test runs : Dravid now 70 runs behind Ponting.... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203760#203760 Author: DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 05 December 2009 at 2:37pm

Dravid now 70 runs behind Ponting. I'm guessing this is the closest he'll come in catching up as he has very few games left.]]> Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:37:55 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203760#203760 most test runs : Now that I look back at it, it... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203697#203697 Author: DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 05 December 2009 at 3:40am

Now that I look back at it, it was a petty mistake I should have overlooked. ]]> Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:40:07 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203697#203697 most test runs : Yeah DF, I mean not really required... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203670#203670 Author: spin wizard
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Posted: 04 December 2009 at 12:51pm

Yeah DF, I mean not really required - damn, my brain has been off song lately. Ouch]]> Fri, 04 Dec 2009 12:51:48 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203670#203670 most test runs : Originally posted by spin wizardGuys... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203623#203623 Author: DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 04 December 2009 at 12:27am

Originally posted by spin wizard

Guys like Dravid and Chanderpaul can change games but they played in a team where it was really required.


You mean not required. Sachin, Yuvraj, Sehwag, Dhoni, Lara, Gayle, Sarwan. All of them are top class players with a very good strike rate in all formats. This forced Dravid, Chanderpaul to slow down as someone was needed to anchor and keep the innings steady. No one other than them could do it perfectly so they had to keep their speed limited unless needed.

I agree about the weights but I'm sure the players know what they are doing and they must have really good physios so I don't think weights would be too much of a factor. They tend to injure themselves a lot on the field or right after a game or just before a big series. I think they are just not being careful enough.]]> Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:27:09 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203623#203623 most test runs : Guys like Dravid and Chanderpaul... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203614#203614 Author: spin wizard
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Posted: 03 December 2009 at 2:18pm

Guys like Dravid and Chanderpaul can change games but they played in a team where it was really required.  Kallis doesn't really change gears much, seems pretty careful about not losing his wicket!
 
For me, one of the reason why Cricketers break down a lot these days is because of weights in the gym!!  I had an experience once where I did strictly weights for 2 weeks and I just had to stop, cramps came by way to easily for my liking in my arms and side muscles (was training my upper body).
 
Weights as far as I understand makes the muscle tighten so it isn't as loose to bend in the desired positions that is required especially for fast bowlers and fielders who want to be very good in the field.
]]> Thu, 03 Dec 2009 14:18:51 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203614#203614 most test runs : If you are not fit, then it means... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203557#203557 Author: DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 02 December 2009 at 11:54pm

If you are not fit, then it means your careless, unlucky. In order to be a good player, you need to be able to last long and talent/hardwork does the rest. All those players you mentioned Sledger were very good but they must have lasted long enough for them to be recognized even today. My knowledge before the 90s and for that matter even 2000s is a little limited and the fact that I know who you are talking about shows how good and fit they must have been. If you make your debut at 34 and play until 37 but with consistency, you will be remembered but in that same time if you were injured for the most part, you would not be remembered or considered great.

On a side note, Kallis can change gears and so can Dravid. They wouldn't have lasted long if they could not. Just check their T20 records and it says enough about their adaptability.]]> Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:54:11 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203557#203557 most test runs : Bradman and Hobbs played a hell... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203530#203530 Author: milkman
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Posted: 02 December 2009 at 12:45pm

Bradman and Hobbs played a hell of a lot of cricket, not as much test cricket as they could have due to the war, but nonetheless a lot of tests and FC games. Longevity is one of many factors that come into play when assessing how great a player is. It indicates hunger and passion, but also fitness.
The question is whether we look at statistics/performances or actual talent when assessing greatness. For instance, Sobers was very naturally talented in all facets of the game, while Kallis has quite a few limitations (for example, his inability to accelerate and 'change gears' , instead of going with the flow of the game). Or the ability of Warne versus the statistics of Muralidaran.
]]> Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:45:15 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203530#203530 most test runs : No it doesn't mean greatness... http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203529#203529 Author: zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 02 December 2009 at 12:45pm

No it doesn't mean greatness Sledge. And I think nobody here made it a point either. But to be on the stage for so long does indicate you have to be a very fine player. Fitness and longevity have to be given their due share when judging players. ]]> Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:45:14 +0000 http://www.cricketworld.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5021&PID=203529#203529