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    Posted: 03 July 2008 at 7:57am
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Just take a look at this guy's numbers!!! He  has been impressive in the Asia cup so far as well. Dont know how to categorize him. But he is certainly the future of Srilankan cricket. They now need not worry once Murali retires. He bolws off break, medium, flipper, leg break, googly, top spin and what not!!!! 500 test wickets for this guy!!!

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Does he do it legally?
Monkey see, Monkey do.
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Very much so
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Mendis is brillient!
I've never seen anyone bowl so well!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 July 2008 at 9:00pm
Mendis looks impressive so far.  He bowled well in his two ODI's in the caribbean and he got variations. 
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Originally posted by bladescape

Mendis is brillient!
I've never seen anyone bowl so well!
You must have seen very little cricket buddy
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bladescape Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 July 2008 at 8:54am
Two things:
1.I have only watched cricket the last four years.
2.I meant the fact that he could bowl off spin and leg spin with equal ease.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dips_december Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 July 2008 at 5:58pm
Originally posted by 143no

Does he do it legally?
A typical 143 question!Ouch
 
Mendis has had a good and promising start to his career and if he is groomed properly with Murali then he might turn into a huge success story.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jaysjay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 July 2008 at 7:47pm

wow! what a fantastic  prospect for Srilanka ,sensational start all the way,he is being billed as  slow medium but he can be called anything from gentle medium to leg break or an offie, anything,and without the the risk of going overboard i can say i have never seen anything like him.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote bladescape Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 July 2008 at 12:26am
That's what I meant with the above post about him being brillient.
And actually you are wrong,Tendulkar bowls all three types like Mendis(though not as well).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 July 2008 at 12:59am
Man, I like Mendis bowling.  People does say not too variate too much in terms of like googlies, toppies, sliders etc but this man proving them wrong.  In my view, you'll be very good with taking wickets this way although a bit more expensive!
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I tend to disagree SW.I guess he will be more economical than most of the bowlers around
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Originally posted by bladescape

That's what I meant with the above post about him being brillient.
And actually you are wrong,Tendulkar bowls all three types like Mendis(though not as well).
 
Tendulkar doesnt ball carrom ball though, and he has to give it a lot of air to extract massive turn while mendis just bowl medium spin looks very flat at times and does come up with a loop at times so much differences between the two.Tendulkar is also not so exacting with his line and length hence he tends to bowl wayward loose deleveries unlike Mendis (its still an early phase of his carrer though but he has shown imennse promise).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bladescape Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 July 2008 at 7:16am
Well Tendlukar is a part timer so I would not expect him to be half as good as Mendis.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 July 2008 at 4:20pm
Zuhair, I was talking about bowlers in general if they do that, not Mendis.  Batsman got to use their senses against him, from what I've seen, anytime he gives the ball loop, it's the top spinner/googly so all they have to do is not play for any leg break turn as which they are doing to him.  I find the most dangerous ball of his is that leg cutter which is bowled with an off break action but spins it a bit like leg break with his fingers and it gets some back spin on it and skids and straighten.  That's a wicked delivery!
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I first saw Mendis against Pakistan in the Asia Cup and I couldn't figure out what kind of bowler he was.
 
What I don't understand is this: couldn't Warne, Murali and other great spinners have the ability to bowl all these types of deliverys? Surely a spinner could emulate this guy? Or is he really something special?
 
I'm not sure how this guy will fear in international cricket without a stock ball. He seems slightly erratic at this point and it could cost him against better players, but I think if he can develop a stock ball and some variations within that he'll be very, very successful
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2008 at 7:15am
Dhoni is quoted as saying the Indians couldn't pick him - some statement from the captain of the team that supposedly plays spin better than most.
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But this indian team is minus all those players who play spin better than most. No Sachin, Dravid or Laxman
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I wouldn't be suprised if Sachin couldn't pick him!
Though he can still improve.
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Half of his wickets in that 6-13 match did absolutely nothing, his wickets were more down to the bad shot selection. He's a new bowler so he's bound  to be a bit different, but surely top batsman should have no trouble deciphering a googly from an offbreak; the hand positions are entirely different. There may be slightly more trouble in picking his doosra from his off-break seeing as though they do look quite similar. There's reallyn not much point in him bowling legbreaks and googlies if he's supposed to be an off-spinner, as batsmen of any standard should really be able to tell the diiference between those two wrist positions... the fact they spin the same way also adds to the eccentricity of his decision to pursue in bolwing them.
 
That said, if he develops his off-break into his stock ball and continues to work on his offspin variations, we could have a very big prospect ahead.

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Originally posted by fishcake14

There's reallyn not much point in him bowling legbreaks and googlies if he's supposed to be an off-spinner, as batsmen of any standard should really be able to tell the diiference between those two wrist positions... the fact they spin the same way also adds to the eccentricity of his decision to pursue in bolwing
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batsmen of any standard pick doosras or they can ,may be , but the fact is is  its not easy for batsman of any standard to respond to some wiered bowling like that...probably they could suss him out watching video tapes or anything and he will have to keep evolving his bowling with constant experimentation and no surity of success for anyone in this game, nevertheless there should not be any denying of the fact that he did bowl very well ...you may say that they were too agressive and lost wickets playing extravaggant shots of him but still he was the one begging those top four wickets and that too when the powerplays were on, add also that most of them were bowled , stump or lbw that means he simply beat them all with his line and length on a batsman friendly pitch.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bladescape Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 July 2008 at 1:44am
If you can bowl Leg breaks and off breaks with both actions then it would be difficult to handle.
He just needs to work on the leg break with leg spinner grip!
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Originally posted by fishcake14

There's reallyn not much point in him bowling legbreaks and googlies if he's supposed to be an off-spinner, as batsmen of any standard should really be able to tell the diiference between those two wrist positions... the fact they spin the same way also adds to the eccentricity of his decision to pursue in bolwing them.
 
It's similar to Left Arm Spinners that slip in a chinaman in once in a while. It messes with a batsman's head because they have doubt of how you're going to spin the ball.
Finger spin and Wrist spin have different rates of revolutions and different amounts of turn so being able to bowl both means a batsman can't settle to how much a pitch is turning for you.
 
You're also forgetting the ability he'll have to bluff opponents. He bowls you some off breaks, then bowls what looks like a leg break and the batsman plays for the leg break to be bowled by what's really a wrong'un. Good bluff.
Or he bowls a leggies top spinner and it goes straight on going through the gap and taking out off stump.
 
This guy is something special in the making. I think he knows his game well enough to know that if he's getting slogged and has to revert to simplicity rather than loads of variation, then he'll be able to.
Until he actually starts getting slogged though we'll never know.
 
His Doosra is actually a reverse finger delivery which means there's a time just before he bowls that he has to set his fingers up for it, if done in run up. To do it you carry out the finger spin bowling action while in run up keeping hold of the ball and then move the fingers back the opposite way while releasing the ball on delivery. This creates like a 2 fingered leg break/chinaman and causes the ball to turn that way.
 
It'll be picked soon because of his altered finger position and the reversing of the fingers (providing he does it in run up as I have done when bowling reverse fingered deliveries).
If he sets up for it before then he'll cause more problems for himself as he gives a batsman more time to see the finger positions and predict what's coming.
 
Using the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL9-D-Hp2GI (also provided above) stop it at 30 seconds. It shows his action from behind just before release. You can see the difference in his finger position (mainly that his index finger is higher and the ring and little finger are extended for his Doosra).
Not easy to pick for certain but over time it'll get picked more due to his finger position difference. Still, that's a delivery that's very clever and takes plenty of practice to bowl it well. I think that and a good undercutter/arm ball can make a good Offy or LAS.


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Originally posted by fishcake14

Half of his wickets in that 6-13 match did absolutely nothing, his wickets were more down to the bad shot selection.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 July 2008 at 6:39am
bangback , read the rules - post in english please.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bladescape Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 July 2008 at 6:46am
Well I don't think that's quite right bangback!
Ajantha Mendis did quite a lot with his deliveries and that was the reason the ones which didn't do much got the wickets!
They were expecting more from the deliveries and so when he slipped in the deliveries which didn't do anything,it took the batsman by surprise!

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I was referring to the fishcake14's post, read carefully
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Use the quote button bangback , then we know who you're responding to.
 
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