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    Posted: 18 April 2006 at 6:06am
With the kind of technique roy has i don't think roy can be as good a test player as he is in ODI's
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if he could some how learn to play at a good tempo and not be so 2 paced then maybe but as far as bowling's concerned no way he can't bowl spin in the australian side and his medium pacers are far too slow to make him bowl first change which is what the aussies want went they talked about an all rounder
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Pollock opens the  bowling and he seldom gets it over 130kph...
Symonds is brillaint alll round,,but.
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i think it's too late now if he was 22 or something he should go in pura cup get's some form or county cricket but he's not he's 30.I think he's capable of hitting a big score in test cricket he can play at a slow tempo he made 9 from 51 against the west indies he just wanted to prove he can play test cricket then since he wasnt scoring he decided to go bang bang he's more confident but his shots are too risky i think 49% of what i just said makes no sense
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He can never be a good test player because the only way he can score runs is by slogging, he doesn't know how to protect his wicket. And thats not how you play test cricket.....
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all symonds shots are good cricket shots with brutal force i htink he has just lacked confidence because many ppl are saying how he should play
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there is no doubt if he was good behind the stumps gilly would not be in the test team right now
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Originally posted by eddyc_solid

there is no doubt if he was good behind the stumps gilly would not be in the test team right now

What a load of crap!!! Gilly is a far better batsmen.... His statistics prove it as well... He is also far more consistent than symonds, and his form slump (which is hopefully now over) since the ashes has been the only slump in his entire test career....

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Originally posted by eddyc_solid

there is no doubt if he was good behind the stumps gilly would not be in the test team right now


Eddy put your comments into a single thread please!!

Three successive entries is nothing short of silly , the number of posts one acquires means zilch , it's the content!
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There's no use saying what if eddyc the fact is andrew symonds is not a wicket keeper and he's not a good enough bowler to be an allrounder in test cricket.
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well david boon on an interview on the cricket show said they picked him for a batsmen who can bowl while the main bowlers have a rest.

He can bat and doesnt need to slog, the innings he played of 151 at the scg the 1st 100 runs werent slogging and he was smashing drives and cuts alround the ground, and then he got the next 50 of like 20 odd balls

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Originally posted by lost_mullet

well david boon on an interview on the cricket show said they picked him for a batsmen who can bowl while the main bowlers have a rest.



Which answers the question perfectly , he ISN'T a genuine allrounder.

The definition of an allrounder is a player who can hold down a place in the side utilising either his batting or bowling - that just about sums up Freddie.

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Yes he isn't genuine alrounder but is a awesome batter to watch and can control his darts and moves the ball both ways.

He is test match material but shouldnt be in the team because australia is better than that.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 April 2006 at 7:16am
Fair enough mate , there is plenty of competition for a batsman that can bowl a bit and nip one or two out. Clarke's the obvious choice and there's backing for Shane Watson too.

No doubt that Symonds , when on song , gives it a fearful whack and can turn a game on it's head. Just maybe he's made the side of late because Gilchrist really hasn't been firing. Now he is scoring freely again , the selectors will decide they don't need a biffer at 6.
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yer true, Id like to see him in the side while performing thoughh.
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Originally posted by Sledger

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well david boon on an interview on the cricket show said they picked him for a batsmen who can bowl while the main bowlers have a rest.



Which answers the question perfectly , he ISN'T a genuine allrounder.

The definition of an allrounder is a player who can hold down a place in the side utilising either his batting or bowling - that just about sums up Freddie.
 
Flintoff probably would miss out in the England side if he couldn't bowl.. HIs batting is very good but his conversion rate of 50s to 100s is poor.
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Maybe so Mik , but if he didn't get flogged in the field , he might just have enough energy to get to three figures more often!
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True true, if he focused on 1 discipline he would definately make it. But he is a complete cricketer, his batting holds down the no.6 spot respectively and his bowling is worthy of new ball honours or 1st change.
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its amazing how a post always turns into something other the topic
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Post Options Post Options   Quote eddyc_solid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 April 2006 at 4:25am
Does anyone here give Symonds a chance of wearing baggygreen again.He is still 30 which is reasonable so when the older guys retire their must be a spot for him.
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Does anyone here give Symonds a chance of wearing baggygreen again.He is still 30 which is reasonable so when the older guys retire their must be a spot for him.


Don't discount it Eddy , he's not on the scrapheap just yet! If Dizzy can score 201* , then Symonds is capable of taking 10 wickets in an innings!!!
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I think Symonds would have excelled on these flat tracks just look what rafique did to the spinners symonds would have smashed 300+
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This was the only test series where I would have Symonds, They wanted an extra bowler to ('try out' I guess").

Australia don't really need an alrounder, someone like Gillespie or Lee as a night watchman is a good idea

You have the big hitting Lee and Defensive Gillespie which are good cards to play towards the end of a day of play.

But Symonds is missing two qualities, a defensive play and a good bowler.

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But sometimes lee is very poor and gillespie has a low strike rate but is a proven himselft with the bat.
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i reckon he needs to earn another chance in first class, then perform which he has the ability to do
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Originally posted by cricket_mstr

Australia don't really need an alrounder....



Nawwwww , you keep playing with only 4 bowlers and at the end of the year , you'll see a problem.

Originally posted by cricket_mstr

But Symonds is missing two qualities, a defensive play and a good bowler.



Blimey , not much left if he misses a straight one then!!
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Symonds is playing for lancashire right?
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i don't know, but i know he has a defence, thats why his got such a low strike rate and has only got out slogging 3 times, twice when he has been over 50 and in his 1st test stumped off murali. Atleast he was looking to score
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