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    Posted: 16 June 2010 at 9:02am
Agreed, I said it before... I don't think he could make it through a test. It wouldn't be fair to play him in a test as it would be putting a burden on the other bowlers to carry extra overs. He has got to do what Brett Lee has done and make a decision on tests. Certainly Lee has not been at his most fit either, but I see potential in him also playing 2020 and ODIs and he can still touch 150kph. As long as both those guys can stay away from injury I think we will see them at the 2011 WC. Difference between them though is that Lee is very, very fit, but he's injury prone. Akhtar is both unfit and injury prone and relies on natural talent the most. I'd love to seem the BOTH back in action.

In addition, as I said earlier, you could play Ajmal for Asif. Akhtar, Aamer, Razzaq is a nice pace attack, with variety and then you'd have 3 good spin options.  In tests, Asif, Aamer and Gul would be a good pace battery and you would play Kaneria and Afridi. They are different types of spinners and in reality Pakistan need to play their best players and their most penetrative bowlers... so you'd certainly pick Kaneria in front of Ajmal or a so-so pacer like Abdur Rauf and co.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2010 at 4:03pm
Afridi played so well but we still lostUnhappy why why why?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2010 at 4:39pm
Anywaz it was great to see shoaib Akhtar back in the side and he delivered well. Hope, he will get his rythm soon in ODI's and yeah he is not fit for tests  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2010 at 6:10pm
yes guys, Akhtar will find it difficult to play tests again, I said this before too and I think it'll be good if he concentrates only on ODI's.

I think Shahzaib is much better than Nazir and will come good, the reason I say that is because he is young and he actually played a very important last year in Pakistan's WT20 win by proving those electric starts, someone who can perform at a big stage will eventually come good is what I believe.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2010 at 6:15pm
coming to today's game Bangladesh pressed the self destruction button as usual, but we have to say that India looked a much better side. Sehwag makes such a big difference to this line up, not because what he did with the ball today but at the top of the order he gives a big psychological advantage to the team. Good to see Gambhir back in form.

I'm still hoping for an India - Pakistan final!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2010 at 12:02pm
It cant be Ind-Pak. Will either be SRL-Ind or SRL-Pak - most likely another Idn-SRL one by the look of things
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2010 at 7:38pm
certainly SLN can't be eliminated now so it indeed looks like IND-SLN once again unless PAK turn it around quite dramatically from here on in, They'll also have to hope that SLN beats IND.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 June 2010 at 11:45pm
It is time for that match-up again. Debates on the viability of the ODI game can take a backseat for a day - when India faces Pakistan, the format is irrelevant.
 
Haha, this quote made me laugh and it's so true.  I'm gonna be straight here, I don't think there is no hotter rivalry in Cricket than India vs Pakistan, seriously, these games are always worth a watch.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 June 2010 at 9:36am
absolutely spinny, and I tell you what, the first game between SLN and PAK was so exciting and it tells us that there is something so special about ODI's that T20's can never ever provide. Probl;em is people are execting every ODI game to be a "close" affair which is not possible. even in T20's we see some very one sided matches.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 June 2010 at 5:34am
Iam not at all happy with my team's performance in PAK vs IND match. I mean how can you even imagine to win a game by droping so easy catches and too many fielding lapses. We should have won this after taking those 4 wickets but Afridi was defensive as always and they easily allowed them to go for singles and twos. We are commiting the same mistakes again and again. We don't know how to end the game in batting as well as in bowling. Pak bowling is much much better than Indian bowling line up but still they made just 60 runs in Last 10 overs and India made 50 runs in last 5 overs. We should have easily made 300 odd runs but this is unpredictable Pakistani team 144-1 and 267 all out with 3 balls left.
There are no excuses for all this mess. Afridi have to change his defensive approach. We are loosing close games again and again which we should have won. Seriously their performance is woefull.
and by the way what is the role of Razzak in a team. He is not ending the games for us, his fielding is not well. Afridi is not utilizing him properly in bowling. Malik's performance is also questionable.
Anywaz i enjoyed this match very much  and Bhaji was great with the bat. They played well and they deserved to win this match. I can only hope to see my team performing well in the future. Tough series are ahead with England and Australia. PCB has to think now about team's performances because its not easy to beat England in their own home ground.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 June 2010 at 9:38am
you are right Amal, they are losing close games again and again, while the fielding remains to very very very poor. Some top quality all rounders like Razzaq are not being utilised properly and are being treated as bits and pieces players which is quite ridiculous.

Opening remains a problem and we have seen how well Salman has done once selectors and captain have showed confidence in him, similarly is Shahzaib if chosen as the first choice opener then there is no point in dropping him after just one failure. The team selection remains pathetic.

They have 4 top class pacers in Akhtar, Asif, Gul and Aamer and 3 of them should always play along with Ajmal. Relying on 20 overs from Afridi/Razzaq/Mailk is costing Pakistan very badly. this is where Razzaq should be batting higher up the order and should not be treated as a No.8.


Having said all that they have a very very long season ahead of them against some very decent teams and I think if PAK can win one series it'll lead to many...T20's against AUS are next.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 June 2010 at 9:45am
coming to India I think the chase was executed very well, Raina showing what a good finisher he is while Dhoni and Gambhir took the game away from Pakistan although PAK fought back towards the end. India have a very decent side and they are doing well as a unit and the senior players are playing very responsibly. I hope now they win the trophy and not panic in the finals as they mostly do.

Tell me in which T20 game can you witness an innings like Gambhir's, A fightback like that of PAK, Ajmal's beautiful bowling, India fighting back after PAK's solid foundation... The ODI's are a complete package... and  now if anyone says it needs to be restructured then he must be kicked in his *** and put in a prison.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 June 2010 at 3:23pm
you are right. there is no need to restructure ODI's. I am loving all the matches and i love last match, it was a heart stopping match for a person like me(though not satisfied with my team's performer).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2010 at 9:52am
Bit irrelevant - but I will use this thread. Younus Khan has not been included for the England tour. WHY?????? His ban has been lifted - there is no reason to leave him out on such a tough tour. Pakistan will lose all six tests without any doubt.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2010 at 2:39pm
Pakistan will also lose all 6 matches with Younus. They will drop 5 catches per match.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2010 at 2:46pm
Afridi in scintilatting form, 124 off 60 balls.  Guy can bat but slogs too much, else he would have been a very good batsman, the guy looks compact and can get behind balls, just a pity he favours the ultra aggressive way all too often.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2010 at 3:00pm
everyone said after his first Innings that he is talented. How many times do we see someone playing first Inning and hammering a good Bowling line up. Afridi was always talented but he never used his brain. Now with the responsibility of captaincy he is using his brain. He is very dangouras for the opposition if he plays like this always.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2010 at 6:43pm
Afridi has indeed surprised many of us, he is looking very determined which is good for Pakistan, and yes, we could sense that in this tournament Pakistan played as a unit and were out there to win. This itself is a big plus for Pakistan and the winning days might not be too far away. They finally break their 9 match losing streak.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2010 at 6:56pm
Regarding team for series against AUS and ENG, I think Yasir Hameed's inclusion is a good one and he is expected to play at No.3. I'm disappointed that Fawad was left out, he showed a lot of promise on tour of AUS. So good to see Umer Gul back. Sami should have been in ahead of Wahab Riaz.

Regarding Younus, he is a very good test player and given Pakistan's weak batting, could have been included. Having said that I think this team can still do well but it won't be easy. I feel bad for Younus but I think this is still not the end of the world for him.

My team will be: Salman, Farhat, Hameed, Umer A, Malik, Afridi, Kamran, Aamer, Gul, Danish, Asif.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2010 at 8:09pm
i think Alam is a good player, not sure why he's being left out all the time or when he's picked, he's batted too late and hardly bowls, when he's more than a decent bowler.  He seems quite weak off the pads and body, for an international batsman, that's pretty poor so I don't know if that's one of the reason but as an international batsman, you should be taking balls off your pads with ease.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2010 at 6:21am
The Chief selector does not like him - full stop. This is how it goes here. it is a pretty weak time for my likings. I am h happy for Hameed and also happy that Uamr AMin is here - will surely make his debut once Farhat fails for 2 straight matches averaging 18 with the bat and dropping 3 catches per inning.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2010 at 7:41am
Farhat is nothing of note, even when he bowls his 'leg spin' it's with a street cricket grip of the ball!

Surely you'd pick Razzaq as a batsman, he CANNOT do any worse than these other fools being given a go. Even Hameed, he has made 2 tons in 23 tests and both were on his debut against Bangladesh almost 10 years ago. Seriously, I'd rather open with Razzaq, as daft as that sounds.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2010 at 8:50am
I dont know what pakistani selectors are looking for. What was the reason for dropping Faisal Iqbal and Sami. I know they are not good players but the didn't anything wrong to be dropped from the side. Why is Malik selected. He is a nothing player in test matches, specially in non-asian conditions. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2010 at 9:12am
I have no problems with Malik - you need him in such an inexperienced batting line up. Razzaq should have been picked for sure. Akhtar's absence is unfortunate but it cant be helped. Maybe he will be called in on some later stage on the tour.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2010 at 11:57am

Why Kamran is still there? till he is in the team i dont think Pakistan have a chance of winning.

My team would be:
 
Butt
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Asad Shafiq(wk) but he is not in the squad so will have to replace him with Zulqarnain Haider
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2010 at 6:09pm
Fawad is not in the side mystery.

Guys Farhat has not done anything wrong and is showinb good form, I have no problems with him in the side. They don't any big name in there though, no one who can score a double hundred or something like that. That is the problem. Having said that It's should be looked upon as a great opportunity for Butt, Umer Akmal, Malik to rise to the occasion and become the key player of the side.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2010 at 6:22pm
Coming back to Asia Cup, India lost 4 wickets in 4 balls today, Maharoof taking a Hatrick and a 5 wicket haul and SLN won by 7 wickets in 37.2 overs!

Things are not as rosy as they look for India, perhaps they should have lost to Pakistan because that would have been an eye opener. Now irrespective of what happens in the finals they'll happily go to Srilanka (to play them for 102737th time in 18 months Stern%20Smile) and if they play like this they'll come back losing 3-0.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2010 at 7:09pm
First of all this tournament does not give any +ves till the final match , it was always Ind Vs SL right from the start coz the other two teams were one of world circkets weakest teams in Pakistan and Bangaladesh.
 
Beating Pakistan and Bangldesh does not prove anything, they should have won today coz it matters to win against a good ODI side.This loss has dissapointed me.SL is a ok kind of team, if today India had won I would have been very happy , but not to be :(. Hope they make up for today's loss with a thumping win in finals.  
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2010 at 8:00pm
India never win finals so its useless to hope.
I think you should hope they dont lose badly like by 100 runs or 9 wickets.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2010 at 7:40am
It was Pakistan which produced two great matches in the tournament - Pakistan was not the weakest of the teams in the Asia cup - let alone the world. This much of typical Indo-pak die hard fan biasness just isn't the flavour of this forum mate. Get over with it.
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