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    Posted: 21 March 2012 at 2:27am
India definitely need to rethink their side and look at what's going wrong. Kohli is doing the bulk of the tough work, while Gambhir has done a good job at the top and Dhoni at the end. So it's just a matter of tying up the loose ends. Indian Selectors have been right, despite 'protests' from fans, that Irfan Pathan should not be in the side. Indians need to start selecting the right team to be frank, and I think they have got their pace attack, if you can even call it that, wrong.
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Told you guys - BD wins now should not be viewed as upsets
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The way that BD celebrate make their wins look like upsets, they celebrate as if they've never won anything before. I'm not going to jump ahead and say that their wins are not upsets, wasn't that long ago they lost a test to Zimbabwe.
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The BD wins are upsets otherwise we shouldnt talk so much about these wins. Nobody is talking of the wins of India against pakistan or Pakistan over SRL or WI over Australia. BD wins are still very very special and nobody expect them to win.
Eventhough they have beaten India and SRL easily, nobody is expecting them to win the finals.
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They will remain underdogs for a while still - but they wlil win more matches than they have int he past. A victory today won't be an upset when compared to a victory three-four years back
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After PAK's recent showing against ENG (who aren't even that good an ODI team), I can't see them causing any major worries, especially against sides more adept at playing mystery spin. BAN have no chance. It's between IND and SL, probably SL because of the confidence factor.


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And i really never rated SL as i have already said they are good for practice but wont trouble you in big matches.
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Whether you call it an "upset" or not, it doesn't matter guys, Bangladesh had to start winning or at least start showing some strong performances at some point of time and I'm glad that it's happening now.

Rumors are that Pakistan may also make some changes to their ODI and T20 team and are likely to include more youngsters while Misbah, Younus, Cheema and even Gul could be on their way out and preferred only for Tests. Afridi or Hafeez can be the future captains. There are also indications that Shoaib Malik and Kamran Akmal could be back in the side in more "Important" roles for their next series which will be against SLN in May-June.


I'm all for change in PAK limited overs team irrespective of what happens tomorrow.
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Bangladesh choose to chase , which suits their approach in the one day format at home.  The decision appears to the right one too , as they've snared a wicket and Pakistan are 16-1 after 4.2 overs !   
             I expect all the neutrals are pulling for them - I agree with most comments here , Bangladesh fully deserve to be in the final and if Pakistan have a bad day at the office could well go on and win their 1st major trophy.


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After this half match BD deserve to win this. Pakistan should give them this match. Maybe that could be a deal to get a tour of BD in Pakistan
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Nasir batted way too slowly...
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If Afridi had some luck today he could have bowled Shakib at least 3 times today.
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Not the easiest of tracks this one, as much as I like Bangladesh and love to see them win, I'm firmly supporting Pakistan, I'm not the one who'd get carried away!
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Bad luck to BD. Couldn't handle the pressure in the end, too much left to Shakib and Nasir batted way too slowly and put too much pressure on the lower order.

Nice work, nonetheless, by BD to do so well. Should be a step forward for them, and hopefully they continue to improve. Stuart Law has done a good job for them as coach, he's a true professional and this BD side looks more professional than ever.

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I think BD had very good luck today as they got a lot of support from the umpires. The Out of Umar Akmal and Younus was a joke.
Anyway they played way better than expected.
Pakistan have to look for a few solid Batsmen for odis. How many times should the bowling win them matches?
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I really cant decide what i really wanted as feeling really bad for BD i wanted Pakistan to win but really this BD did everything. BD's players reaction made me even more sad Cry if i can change the results i would make it a tie.
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Congratulations to Pakistan on winning the Asia Cup! Good job done, but there is a lot to be done still boys, the team needs to take itself to another level. 

What a tournament for Bangladesh! A tournament which saw the Bangla Boys become Men!

No need to be sad Mystery, I myself had mixed feelings, it's not often that I don't shout or celebrate a Pakistan title win, but today it was totally different. Bangladesh will be winning a lot more in future Mystery, be happy that they have knocked out a team whose board thinks they are not even worth playing against even during next 10 years, Bangladesh have earned respect and won many hearts. Clap
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Originally posted by sam_ahmed

Congratulations to Pakistan on winning the Asia Cup! Good job done, but there is a lot to be done still boys, the team needs to take itself to another level. 

What a tournament for Bangladesh! A tournament which saw the Bangla Boys become Men!

No need to be sad Mystery, I myself had mixed feelings, it's not often that I don't shout or celebrate a Pakistan title win, but today it was totally different. Bangladesh will be winning a lot more in future Mystery, be happy that they have knocked out a team whose board thinks they are not even worth playing against even during next 10 years, Bangladesh have earned respect and won many hearts. Clap


Yes Sam they will be far better team from now on and BPL is a big reason behind that. Pakistan won the Asia Cup but BD have won the hearts.
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That last delivery would've gone for 4 wides if the batsman had just got out of the way ! The last over of both innings's were a joke - death bowling ?   Both bowlers did everything in their power to hand the match to the opposition.
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I dont think that the bowler wanted to bowl outside the leg stump even if the batsman goes forward. This was a perfect yorker and a very good last over from cheema. On that wicket it was very difficult to defend 8 runs from 6 balls. It was BDs game before the last over started. He did very well. The BD batsmen played too many scoop shots and that got them in the end.
The last over of Pakistan innings gave Pakistan hope to win this. I dont think Pakistan had tried to win with 220 runs.
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Posts: 4363 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 March 2012 at 10:19am
After such a strong performance by Bangladesh it is disheartening to see their FTP, they hardly play against any team except Zimbabwe, and the same goes for Zimbabwe. Now that BAN aren't touring PAK, they only play ZIM and WI in 2012 apart from WT20. For ZIM it's even worse they only play BAN and WT20 in the remainder of 2012.
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what about Pakistan? Do they have anything else except World T20?
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Not much Kahmad they only have SL but atleast they dont have to play the useless IPL so now they can rest afterall they are the Asian Champion.

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Yes, as mystery has mentioned Pakistan have a full tour of Sri Lanka (3 tests, 5 ODI's and 2 T20's) starting late May, and also 5 ODI's against AUS most likely at a neutral venue in August just before the WT20.

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That last delivery would've gone for 4 wides if the batsman had just got out of the way ! The last over of both innings's were a joke - death bowling ?   Both bowlers did everything in their power to hand the match to the opposition.
No Sledge - Cheema's over was fantastic. He kept his nerves and mixes his lengths beautifully. The last balls especially was right on the money. It was steaming in and Shahadat had no time to get out of the way - Misbah knew the only way Shahdat could get a boundary was through an edge on third man or fine leg and he had them covered. Shahadat's final over was obviously horrible
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Congratulations to Pakistan for winning the Asia Cup.

Many congratulations for BD , for they have proved beyond doubt that they were the best team in the tournament, unfortunately they could not cross the line.

Probably this was the first time BD played under weight of expectations ... and this is what it does.Now BD players will know what it takes to play under huge expectations, and how it wears you down.

On India , not able to make it to Finals just goes to show that they are in a terrible rut post world cup. They are brilliant one day , while average in next ... somehow one or the other things is going against them on the field.

All that talk and nonsense logic about "Everything will fall in place once they go back to sub-continent","They can play only on flat track" etc  is gone in thin air.

The fact that they could not even make it to Asia Cup finals , just goes to show that their recent losses post World Cup is more of bad form and other issues rather than their ability to bat abroad... which infact is a good thing.

The only tournament they looked assured was the 5 ODI's against England at home , other than that , India post World Cup has been on a downward curve.Maybe they just need another break or IPL to set things place in place again or maybe be Yuvraj's return.

On SL , this has been one of their worst tournaments , where they could not win a single match, what would hurt them more ... they never looked to win even one match in this Asia cup even once.
That after a considerable good showing in CB series.
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Good thing that India lost, hopefully it means some positive improvements can be made to ensure that India can bounce back.
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I am not concerned about their ODI's , it is the Test matches that they had to worry about.

With recent RD's announcement ( hope Lax too does the same before next series gets underway) , hope the new guys will assured of longer run which would translate into their success.
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