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Sledger
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Topic: Australia in Sri LankaPosted: 11 August 2011 at 7:07am |
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Johnson's performance was first class and will have brought a smile to Michael Clarke's face. When Johnson gets it right he troubles any batsman , but like many others , if someone gets after him he can implode.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 11 August 2011 at 7:09am |
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Tests will be the real deal. I expect it to be a hard fought one - Ponting it seems will bat more freely and that can only be good
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vote4peace
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Posted: 11 August 2011 at 7:19am |
Hmmm... Just realized that you could replace Johnson's name with Sreesanth in the above text and it would still stand true. Yes both of them hit or miss bowlers. |
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Mikey
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Posted: 11 August 2011 at 7:26am |
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Difference being that one can bowl at 150kph and the other barely 135kph
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Posted: 11 August 2011 at 1:52pm |
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Today Sreesanth can't get any pace on the ball! Zuhair's comment about Ponting could well be right - if his head is just set on batting he could be a real thorn in the Lankan's side on this tour.
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Posted: 12 August 2011 at 1:44am |
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Not only this series but also in the future Ponting has already starting to look alot more relax while batting which is a good sign and i hope they dont rest Johnson in any of the matches its good that Odi series is played first ahead of test matches.
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Posted: 12 August 2011 at 6:33am |
I agree, that would be a good way of going, get acclimatized before the real deal begins. |
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Mikey
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Posted: 12 August 2011 at 7:19am |
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Good comments here guys.
Sreesanth can't get any pace on the ball, while Johnson looks excellent with the older ball and puts a lot fo effort into his deliveries from a difficult angle. Much better bowler than Sreesanth. I also agree about the comments on Ponting. He made a good ton in the world cup and followed it up with very nice performances against BD opening the batting and batting at 3. This series so far he looked good against the spinners. Even fielding at point (no longer slip because of that bad finger injury) he looked energetic, young and fresh. Still an excellent fielder and I think no captaincy could do wonders for him. If he can refind his form, there's no reason why he could play for 3 or 4 more years with his level of committment and fitness. |
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Posted: 12 August 2011 at 9:34am |
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Yep , Ponting looks like he's enjoying his cricket again after what was a really tough time in the Ashes. Clarke , along with the rest of the squad will expect great things from their best batsman.
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Posted: 15 August 2011 at 6:25am |
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Ponting makes 90* in another comfortable win for the Aussies , taking a 2-0 lead in the one day series. Sangakkarra apart , the Lankan batting was poor and they just didn't set a target they had any chance of defending. Michael Clarke's enjoying leading the side and equally , Ponting seems to be a happier chap as well. When Ponting makes runs , the rest seem to respond , making Australia hard to beat. It could be a long tiring series for the home side.
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Mikey
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Posted: 15 August 2011 at 2:20pm |
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Watson is also due to make a big, big hundred. He powered 185* in an ODI, so we all know he can make those big scores. He's very due now and I think this might be the series we see him make a big test score. Ponting also looks like he's very much in the mindset to make 100s and Clarke his 2 brilliant 6s off the spinners yesterday, really does to show how good a batsman he is against spin. Bowlers are all clicking, Ryan Harris will be a MASSIVE boost to the pace attack I must say, he's probably one of the fastest bowlers in the world at the moment alongside Steyn and Roach (of test bowlers that is). Siddle has been in good first class form for the Australia A side and I reckon Johnson has some nice rhythm and loves bowling in the subcontinent. I'm really hoping to see a good result for the aggressive Clarke, in his first series as test skipper.
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Posted: 15 August 2011 at 4:52pm |
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I see Aussies really coming in the groove - and it won't be long before they are again there among the top teams. the results of transition may come sooner than all of us expect
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Posted: 15 August 2011 at 5:36pm |
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In ODI's Australia are still very much the best team, it is in tests that they are struggling. Australia have so many players who can do the job for them in ODI's no matter what the conditions and they have good mix of youth and experience which helps.
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Posted: 16 August 2011 at 6:53am |
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I rate Harris , he's a real trier and hurries batsmen. The downside is he's made of glass and there's always the worry he'll break down.
So the Lankans have to win today to keep the series alive - to do that they'll have to bat and bowl a whole lot better than we've seen so far ! |
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Posted: 16 August 2011 at 6:56am |
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Harris can be a little brittle as we have seen, but hopefully he can stay in one piece! He's a good bowler I feel to have in the side for the next couple of years while some of these younger bowlers mature, like Mitchell Starc, Hazelwood and James Pattinson. He's a good team man and he's actually a very decent batsman, but hasn't show it yet at international level. He does remind me of Tim Bresnan a bit actually. Harris was never bowling 145kph+ a few years ago, it's definitely something he has added to his game.
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Posted: 16 August 2011 at 7:03pm |
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Sri Lanka win finally and a welcome century for Upul Tharanga after that 3 month ban, he has looked in terrific touch this series. The Aussies were a bit off color today and finally it was Malinga day for Sri lanka.Just can't help thinking though that what is lanka's attack without Malinga, esp in the absence of the ever injured Fernando?
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Posted: 17 August 2011 at 3:02am |
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Australia need to drop D.Hussey and Smith both are useless my ideal lineup would be:
Hughes Watson Ponting Clarke Hussey Warner Wade Johnson Lee Doherty Bollinger |
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Posted: 17 August 2011 at 4:12am |
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Tharanga should have been out about 5 times and I agree with mystery, Smith has to go while Hussey has had too many chances. I also think Haddin is passing his use by date. Ferguson should be playing, so should O'Keefe and Warner.
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Posted: 17 August 2011 at 5:24am |
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Smith is a waste and that has been repeatedly said. There is no point playing a guy who hardly bowls 2-3 overs in a game and comes at 7 to bat.
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Posted: 17 August 2011 at 5:40am |
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Wholeheartedly agree with Zuhair. Sad thing is, we actually have better players. Hastings or Hopes would be more useful for instance... Steve O'Keefe is a better bowler and has a more sound technique with the bat. You could play a proper batsman, like Ferguson , Khawaja , Warner or Marsh, etc.
Also, Zuhair may appreciate this video, it's some footage of Nathan Lyon. I like his technique, there's a bit more about him than Hauritz. A touch of Swann perhaps ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV2PqrnK4BY&list=PL59F958F69A8B8E60&index=179 |
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Posted: 17 August 2011 at 6:14pm |
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For the time being I would go with this line up for Australia, that is unless they find a quality spinner and as long as Ricky is playing.
Hughes is still a No for me, and I would like to see Paine getting into the mix, he is a very good player. Watson Marsh Ponting Clarke M.Hussey Paine Smith / O Keefe Harris / Bollinger Johnson Hauritz Lee I'm not a fan of smith but at the moment to maintain balance it is better to have a batsmen who can bowl a bit in smith rather than having Fergusson who cannot bowl. |
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Posted: 18 August 2011 at 1:30am |
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Selector made a huge mistake by not picking Hodge long ago he was far better batsman than D.Hussey and Smith and i will say he is a much better bowler than both of them but becuz of the selectors Australia have to pay for the mistake.
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Posted: 18 August 2011 at 4:24am |
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They also made the mistake mystery of not sticking with Jaques after his back injury, he was probably just as good a Katich, but younger.
I reckon the best test side would be something like this (obviously excluding players who are not going to ever get selected, like Katich or Hodge): 1. Watson 2. Hughes 3. Ponting 4. Hussey, M 5. Clarke (c) 6. Ferguson/Khawaja/Marsh 7. Paine† 8. Johnson 9. Hauritz (or Lyon, if he's as good as that video above has shown us) 10. Harris 11. Bollinger or Siddle In ODIs, I'd go with: 1. Watson 2. Warner 3. Ponting 4. Clarke (c) 5. Hussey, M 6. O'Keefe 7. Paine† 8. Johnson 9. Lee 10. Hauritz 11. Bollinger Harris is not in the limited overs plans anymore, I think the selectors have realised they have enough firepower in this format and are saving his body for tests - this is a really fair decision I reckon. |
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Posted: 18 August 2011 at 5:58am |
In test matches i would stick with Haddin its the Odi from which i would drop him and now its time to give Johnson extra load and let him bat at 6 he has the talent to became a good all-rounder atleast in Odi's. |
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Posted: 18 August 2011 at 6:55am |
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Johnson's batting form has been poor in recent times, 8 is a good position for him. Every other team plays an all rounder at 8 anyway.
Paine's batting in tests would be more useful I reckon. |
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Posted: 18 August 2011 at 7:08am |
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Haddin's been a class act for several years , but Paine's pushing hard for his place now. Whilst Haddin's not scored many runs at the top of the order in the one dayers , his keeping is still out of the top drawer. The Aussie selectors have been rightly ridiculed for some of their hairbrained selections in the last couple of years (about 8 spinners and the dropping of Katich being the standouts) , but I wouldn't criticise them if they stick with Haddin for the foreseeable future.
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Posted: 18 August 2011 at 7:12am |
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Some of the spinners should never have been picked, like Beau Casson, Steve Smith, Michael Beer, Xavier Doherty, Cameron White or Bryce McGain. Krejza and Hauritz were the best of the lot and should have been given more time to settle in.
From looking at Nathan Lyon, I think there's a bit of Swann about him. He gets a lot of loop and drop, likes to flight the ball and seems to be able to get some turn. I hope he is not discarded away like Dan Cullen, another SA bowler with immense talent. Edited by Mikey - 18 August 2011 at 7:15am |
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Posted: 18 August 2011 at 7:34am |
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Agreed , spinners take time to mature - remember how green Swann was when he first came into the England set up. Duncan Fletcher's judgment could be called into question now , because he got rid of Swann because he thought him unprofessional and an ordinary offy.
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Posted: 18 August 2011 at 7:39am |
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I think with the instance success of MacGill, the selectors thought the guy after him should be able to take 7 wickets hauls straight away. Fact is, they're picking spinners who don't get regular games in FC cricket and who never take big hauls. Hauritz's first 5 wicket haul in FC cricket was in a test match...
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Posted: 18 August 2011 at 8:05am |
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It must be a concern that there just doesn't seem to be spinners of quality coming through the Australian system. The pitches have great bounce and some turn nicely , that alone should encourage youngsters to become a slow bowler.
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