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Abhinav_Superr
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Topic: Australia in the West IndiesPosted: 15 April 2012 at 10:36am |
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Aussies are currently the best test side imo. They have showed it again in Windies...
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Posted: 16 April 2012 at 6:26am |
That's your opinion , but I still think that both England and South Africa are stronger in both batting and bowling. |
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Posted: 16 April 2012 at 6:34am |
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Well I saw a couple of hours of the 2nd test and have to say that the pitch is close to a shocker. That it is turning so early (the 15th over) is simply not good enough. Australia have gone in with 2 spinners - the first time they've done that in years! It was a good toss to win , batting last on this cabbage patch will be a nightmare. Just over 200 in the full 90 overs showed just how difficult batting is and added to that , the outfield is very slow making boundary hitting difficult. It was here in Trinidad that Brian Lara hit 400* against England - that wicket was a batsman's paradise , this one couldn't be more different. You'll not see a side score 400 here and maybe not even with two innings ! West Indies cricket is short of money , but they're doing themselves no favours by preparing wickets of this nature. There should be some punishment ,but that's unlikely what with our lilylivered ICC.
So Australia 5 down , I think they'ev got their noses in front and 250-270 will see them get a decent 1st innings lead. |
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 16 April 2012 at 5:49pm |
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Rain around again, 267/6 I think Australia have got themselves in a fairly good position here, I agree with Sledge, it's a difficult wicket to bat on, WI don't even have big hitters like Gayle, Russsel or Pollard who can score runs quickly and take the game away from the opposition, I think WI will have to play really well to save or win this one.
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Mikey
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Posted: 17 April 2012 at 3:47am |
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The day would have to go to Australia, despite the Windies doing a fine job at the end with the ball. 309 is still a good score, Watson and in particular Hussey were wonderful and I think Pattinson has got a lot of batting talent too. Not the first time I've seen him bat that well, and he's definitely going to be a very handy no 8 in years to come. Probably Australia's longest tail in some time, but when you see Hilfy tonking a few and Siddle making runs in a lot of games, they're obviously working hard on their batting and that's nice to see.
Wade is looking more and more out of his depth at this level, and I really think he is no more than a limited overs cricketer at best. I'd definitely like to see Peter Nevill play in the next test, although that won't happen. Nearly everyone who follows the Sheffield Shield knows that Nevill is the best and most in-form keeper/batsman at first class level. Pertaining to the bowling, Lyon, like all the pundits are saying is out of form. He's not using his body or his front arm at all through his action and there should have been a case to drop him for Beer, instead of playing them both. Lyon has a bit of work to do on his action, his technique is a mess at the moment, but hopefully tomorrow he can sort that out and find his rhythm again! It is handy having Watson in the side, does give the selectors the option to play the 2 spinners. Pattinson is looking quick and Hilfenhaus is curving the ball nicely. Bowling set up looks decent. |
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Posted: 17 April 2012 at 6:14am |
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Australia well on top and Clarke's decision to open the bowling with Beer shows how the pitch is behaving (or misbehaving). I think only the weather can save the Windies from going 2-0 down and because of that wicket , they deserve to !
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 17 April 2012 at 5:43pm |
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At 132/4 WI are still struggling, although there has been some sort of a recovery today, Work to do still and Chanders will have to be the rescue man once again. Deonarine, Sammmy and Baugh will have to bat well around him for WI to come close to the Aussie score.
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Posted: 18 April 2012 at 6:11am |
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Sledger, Lara's 400 was in Antigua and not Trinidad. Trinidad has always been a bowling and result pitch, probably with the exception of the England test match in 2009.
Make no mistake, despite the huge turn on offer, Trinidad is not a spin bowlers pitch, the ball turns to slow. Fast bowlers have always been wrecking havoc on teams here. Lyon's 5 fer has more to do with Windies inability against spin more than anything. Australia clearly doesn't know the history of Queen's Park Oval, Harris over Lyon and Windies may have been back in the hut already. Pattinson got some exaggerated movement yesterday, which is proving my point. Even Mike Hussey was getting the ball to do something. Nonetheless, i'm proud of West Indies still. Australia have definitely found it much harder than they thought it would be. Australia have some serious problems, in that their tail is batting better than their top batsmen. Windies have done well, but when they lose a session, they are losing it badly, which is costing them the game. Woeful batting in the 2nd innings is why they lost the 1st test. Lastly, i'd say Australia is extremely lucky that Narine or Shillingford didn't play the first test. Bishoo was a huge disappointment on a pitch with so much rough, and the same could be said of Lyon. They hardly posed any problems. Talking about Narine, with his accuracy, and the turn on offer, he would have been unplayable here, as he pushes them through much faster than most. |
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Posted: 18 April 2012 at 7:42am |
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It was Antigua SW , apologies ! A good fightback from the home side , but they're still in arrears and staring down the barrel. Tomorrow the Windies need to knock over the Aussies for less than 200 to have a chance methinks.
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Posted: 20 April 2012 at 6:03am |
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Roach is taken on his first test 10 wicket. and there it is! bad
luck for the team that the weather had to intervene and cost him a possible
match winning performance.
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Posted: 20 April 2012 at 12:38pm |
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Still a lot of boring periods in this 2nd test as well, I don't really like these tracks where batsmen struggle or are unwilling to score at above 2.5 runs an over. I'm not saying I like high scoring games, but a pitch isn't meant to turn on day 1!
Roach has done a good job, I always rated him because he bowls well to the Aussies. His style is one which always troubles the Aussies, but it seems like batsmen from elsewhere around the world aren't as troubled by him. He certainly has the pace and bounce we see from bowlers in Aussie FC cricket, who do very well (as one can tell by the low FC batting averages in Australia in the last 5 years). Windies can't win this series now, but really it's their own fault. They're lacking that killer edge, but their competitiveness in this series has enhanced their reputation and a couple of good test wins are very, very close. Lots of talent in the West Indies, their batting has looked respectable despite the long tail. Thrown in Gayle, hopefully Sarwan and maybe Narine and the Windies could break into the top 5 in the world. |
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Posted: 21 April 2012 at 3:40am |
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Sarwan's chances are very slim. Kirk Edwards and Darren Bravo are batting wel, along with Shiv Chanderpaul. Gayle may stand a chance as the openers are not saying much.
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sam_ahmed
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Posted: 21 April 2012 at 7:26am |
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Using cricket world on mobile for the first time! The site works good! The weather ruined a very intense battle. WI have played well though and yes I'm keen to see Gayle in weatindian colors!
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Posted: 21 April 2012 at 2:56pm |
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Hopefully Sarwan's chances stay slim for a while yet, he's needed at Leics - got his first ton of the season yesterday too.
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Posted: 21 April 2012 at 4:42pm |
Still young too, I think he's only 31. Definitely would be a waste if he's making runs and not playing test cricket. A good season for Leics and he could be in the Windies fold again. |
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Posted: 22 April 2012 at 8:15pm |
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The ball is seaming all over the place at the moment here, and only pretty decent players are making runs
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Posted: 23 April 2012 at 5:11pm |
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Didn't saw the game so far but if the conditions were indeed difficult then it is a good start for Australia 69/1 Lunch ... hopefully the rain will stay away from this test and let us have a good contest.
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Posted: 24 April 2012 at 5:04am |
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Can't tell when was the last time i've been so proud of West Indies. They are bowling really well these days. They are sustaining great pressure by not bowling too many bad balls. Shillingford bowled really well today, getting a lot of bounce on his home turf.
Nonetheless, the Aussie tail is there, which has caused West Indies more headache than the top order. Also a brittle top order. A lot relies of how Shiv performs......again! |
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Posted: 24 April 2012 at 5:23am |
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The no nonsense approach of the lower order batsmen with considerable ability, whether it be Siddle, Harris, Pattinson, Starc, Lyon or Hilfenhaus is exactly the way the top order need to bat. Time and time again we see the lower order showing up the top order and it is actually starting to get pathetic.
And this wicket... so much damn bounce! I reckon Starc will be a handful with his left arm inswingers, at good pace. |
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Posted: 24 April 2012 at 1:16pm |
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I'm with Mikey here , the Aussie top order have become so timid! Remember the Haydn/Langer days when they were scoring at 5 an over , setting the game up for Ponting and company - that seems a million miles away. They've gone into their shell and allowing the bowlers to dictate - when a bowler isn't getting attacked he bowls with so much more control. Still , the wicket has bounce and I think it could be Lyon who really gets amongst the Windies batsmen - it could be fascinating if the weather plays fair.
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Posted: 24 April 2012 at 7:35pm |
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WI have messed it up once again... too many runs given and already 3 down... need to improve guys... but then half of them are playing the IPL!
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Posted: 25 April 2012 at 4:26am |
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Absolutely brilliant work by Wade to get his maiden ton, in only his 3rd test. A fine, important and potentially match winning knock. His keeping in this series has also been quite good and I don't think there's a coincidence that he made a ton the day after Clarke said "Haddin is his keeper". Haddin will be concerned now...!
Australia are in a good position, with Lyon making up for his poor first test with a 5-for in the 2nd test and an important 3-for in this test. |
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Posted: 25 April 2012 at 9:09am |
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This stat says it all
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Posted: 25 April 2012 at 4:29pm |
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Amazing stat that Clobs!
WI tail has put up some fight though, 218/9 and Chnders again leading the way, good resistance this from the West Indies, Good to see!
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Posted: 26 April 2012 at 5:14am |
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Australia Haven't learn t much at all in current batting in this series,
Ponting has been the main guy copping it but he isn't alone in having a
poor series.
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Posted: 26 April 2012 at 5:28am |
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Ed Cowan and Ricky Ponting both hit half-centuries on Wednesday as Australia are in good position in the match as West Indies will struggle more in the fourth innings.
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Posted: 26 April 2012 at 11:05am |
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Yes alpesh , I can't see the Windies getting out of this. More than 300 ahead already and still batting to come , a deteriorating track and Lyon in form. Unless the weather intervenes it'll be 2-0.
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Posted: 26 April 2012 at 11:07am |
Talk about the world on your shoulders ! |
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Posted: 26 April 2012 at 3:30pm |
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Hussey is out, and the lead at the minute is 334 runs. The lower order is in now, Starc and Harris are both decent lower order batsmen so hopefully they can bash some runs, probably not a bad thing that they're in now. Lead of 350 is sufficient here methinks.
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Posted: 26 April 2012 at 7:29pm |
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81/3 WI, another defeat on the cards here, WI just haven't had enough steam to compete in the test matches after a riveting T20 and ODI series.
Chanders the man again, batting, he has got the talented Darren Bravo with him, still feel Samuels, and Dwayne should have been a part of this series rather than playing in the IPL, perhaps even Russel.
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