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    Posted: 01 November 2007 at 4:44am
 If Sangakarra doesn't make it a great responsibility falls on Jayawardene , Jayasuriya and Atapattu.  I expect Johnson to cause a lot of problems , left armers usually do!
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Can they play Tait, Johnson, Clark and McGill? Or they assume that Lee is an automatic choice?
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I'm excited they went with Johnson he's bowled well recently and looks to be a real threat moving the ball across the right-handers.
 
I'd put Jayasuriya in that first category, as it's him and Sangakarra that usually hold the fort- though Jayasuriya is a bit hit and miss, isn't he?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bondy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2007 at 4:53am
Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

Can they play Tait, Johnson, Clark and McGill? Or they assume that Lee is an automatic choice?
 
A definite choice given he's easily the most experienced now that McGrath and Warne are out.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2007 at 4:58am
He is slightly better than a hit and miss..but certainly Sangakkara is  the one for me to hold it together
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Can they play Tait, Johnson, Clark and McGill? Or they assume that Lee is an automatic choice?
 
A definite choice given he's easily the most experienced now that McGrath and Warne are out.
But certainly not as effective as either of them!! I would have played Clark, tait and Johnson over Lee!! He will be the least successful Aussie bowler in the series...i am dead sure
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bondy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2007 at 5:04am

There's more to cricket than meets the eye , and experience is one of those factors that cannot be viewed by a spectator.

Without Lee the Aussie's lack experience in their bowling attack and that's an important piece to have when facing an experienced outfit like Sri Lanka. He's useful enough to take wickets and I highly doubt he'd be any worse than Tait , who obviously has problems with his radar.
 
It's not just about having what you consider the best players on the field , despite what meets the eye cricket is a game of cohesion , teamwork and thinking , which is a byproduct of experience.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2007 at 5:07am
Fair enough Bondy!!! Experince means a lot to the teaam, but i dont think Lee would be better than a Tait.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote canadiancricket Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2007 at 5:29am
I agree with Zuhair that Lee is not that potent in Tests but I don't agree that Tait is better than Lee. Clark and Johnson may perform better than him but certainly not Tait. He has pace but he no accuracy. 
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One can afford to miss the radar a bit in test matches!!! Thats why i go for Tait..he is deadlier

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2007 at 5:35am
Lee has to play , especially at The Gabba.  His aggression and pace alongside the steady Clark will make life difficult for the Lankan top order. Johnson , at 1st change will bring something different again and then there's MacGill.....
               Tait is quick but so erratic and has had his injury problems this year - let him get back into it via the State game.
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Yes an injured Tait wolnt be good for Aussies...but had he been fit...i would have played him. Lee is not expected to cause any problems to the top order at all. Aussies wont find it that easy to rip through the batting line ups ever so easily as they used to
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Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi

I would have played Clark, tait and Johnson over Lee!! He will be the least successful Aussie bowler in the series...i am dead sure


Me too. Selectors and senior players seem to have nothing but praise for Lee. I have never seen him do anything to justify this faith they have in him. Now McGrath has retired it is definitely time for Lee to get the boot. Johnson is looking a good prospect, and while Tait will go for a few runs, he will usually take wickets - unlike Lee.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2007 at 7:01am
  We'll find out next week , if Lee has an ordinary match , maybe he won't start in the 2nd test.
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Any chance of Bracken getting a test, like Hogg he's proved to be good in the limited overs match that he deserves to have a trial. Johnson will take the new ball with Lee if he is selected, Stuart Clark may even come in as early as the 8th over if Lee isn't in on the money.

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  Would you say that Brisbane is now the best wicket for seamers in Oz , seeing that the WACA seems to have lost some pace ?   It bounces too , which is why Warne was so effective there . Good decision to play the 1st test there in my opinion - Australia's record there is formidable.
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Is Bracken seen as somewhat of a OD specialist? He's an excellent bowler and is unlucky to continually miss out on selection , and now at the expense of Johnson , who's only really proved himself recently. I'm guessing Bracken lacks a bit of pace and ability to do things with the ball , unlike Johnson?

They won't drop Lee, can't see it happening. They've persisted with him of late and he's been selected while McGrath was still around.... I just can't see him being dropped at the expense of Tait.


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Lets assume Lee fails miserably in the first test and gets picked again over a fit Tait!!!!! Then i will have to blame the aussies selectors for overrating Lee!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2007 at 8:11am
 Bracken does lack pace Bondy and there's a bit of mongrel in Johnson !

  Must admit , I couldn't pick a quick bowler with a girl's hairstyle !
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bondy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2007 at 8:12am
It's not as if it has just begun, he's been overrated throughout his entire career , although he couldn't make it into the side a few years ago and carried the drinks for around 12 months! But,  I'm still a fan of Lee's experience and ability and think he can provide more for the team at this point than Tait.
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  Must admit , I couldn't pick a quick bowler with a girl's hairstyle !
 
it sure doesn't do justice for those Aussie broadsWink
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Originally posted by bondy

Is Bracken seen as somewhat of a OD specialist? He's an excellent bowler and is unlucky to continually miss out on selection , and now at the expense of Johnson , who's only really proved himself recently. I'm guessing Bracken lacks a bit of pace and ability to do things with the ball , unlike Johnson?



That's the only reason why I can see why he's not selected. Bracken does lack pace but he makes up for that with variation. He's not like an Australian test bowler either, he's extremely economical but doesn't take the wickets. The selectors obviously seem to favour raw pace.

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 Stuart Clark doesn't go for very many MP , so they can afford to attack from the word go.  Mitchell Johnson is a more potent threat and I fully expect him to get amongst the wickets albeit for quite a few runs.
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And with Tait they'd be too much venom , with little control. I'd like to hear the Australians thoughts on Lee..
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I'm not a big fan of Johnson's fielding in the deep, I've seen him drop a few at domestic level. He'll produce a few chances in the slips but actually I don't think he'll be that expensive. The majority of the runs will come of Lee and Macgill.
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Originally posted by bondy

And with Tait they'd be too much venom , with little control. I'd like to hear the Australians thoughts on Lee..


Australia need Lee for the experience. I can't see Tait ever being better than him. He's always working on his bowling and although Tait swings the ball and produces more pace, he's too inconsistant. One match he'll bowl superbly with figures of 7/80 and the next he'll take 0/110. Plus one bad delivery could see him go for 10+ runs.

Where as Lee, you know what you'll get. 100 percent effort and although he may not take the wickets, his fiery attitude always see's him bounce back.
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Has  McGill been in form in the domestic season? does he play county? how good has he been bowling. i am eager to see him again
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2007 at 12:24pm
Cricket's barely started in the southern hemisphere , so it's tough to gauge anyone's form. As far as I'm aware , MacGill's never played on the county circuit , but they'll be members here who'll know for certain.
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He's played for Somerset and Nottinghamshire but not for a couple of years.
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 So he's not played any cricket in England then JP !
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