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    Posted: 11 April 2008 at 7:05am
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  You'll need the patience of Job lad , the fact is they're not learning!


You are absolutely right. I also feel that they are not learning. the players like ashraful, aftab are now experienced player but they are repeating same mistakes in every match.


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i guess that yousuf news was false he won't be joining ICL, but believe me i did read it on an indian news channel "m.yousuf all set to join ICL".

just thinking about bangladesh i guess we'll have to be patient and give them time to improve, if top class team like IND can get bowled out in 20 overs in a test match and then go on to lose the match by an innings and 90 runs i guess one can expect a young and inexperienced side like like bangladesh to have such results, what is important is that they learn from every game.
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Good knocks by Iqbal and Mahmudullah though. Hopefully Bangladesh can pose a threat soon.
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Originally posted by sam_ahmed

i guess that yousuf news was false he won't be joining ICL, but believe me i did read it on an indian news channel "m.yousuf all set to join ICL".

just thinking about bangladesh i guess we'll have to be patient and give them time to improve, if top class team like IND can get bowled out in 20 overs in a test match and then go on to lose the match by an innings and 90 runs i guess one can expect a young and inexperienced side like like bangladesh to have such results, what is important is that they learn from every game.
i am sorry sam i think u feel bad. i am not sure this is true or not
 
hey not at all mate, why will I? please don't think like that.
 
 
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PAK win their 8th match in a row, and i'm delighted at salman's performance, he got the man of the match as well, and i hope he comes on and matures as a batsman from here on.
 
fawad alam is another very taked player for pak waiting in the wings, i think it won't be a bad idea trying him in the middle order and opening with kamran, i don't have anything against nasir but fawad is an allrounder and at the moment PAK are playing with only 5 bowlers (no back ups) which will be a big risk against tougher oppositions.
 
as for bangladesh, the more i see of tamim, the more i'm convinced that he'll be a star in the future.
 
 
 
 
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  You'll need the patience of Job lad , the fact is they're not learning!


You are absolutely right. I also feel that they are not learning. the players like ashraful, aftab are now experienced player but they are repeating same mistakes in every match.
 
guys it's not all about the number of matches, but it's also about age, these players have got a lot of potential and they'll certainly mature as they grow older.
 
do you know that the oldest member of this bangladeshi team is mashrafe mortaza, and he is aged 24!!!! now just imagine how young this side is, just give them some more time and see what they do.
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as for bangladesh, the more i see of tamim, the more i'm convinced that he'll be a star in the future.
 
I picked him to be the up and coming player of the year right back in january/early february.
 
16/4 now 44/4 and Shakib and Mahmudullah making batting look easy. Really makes me wonder what goes on inside those top order batsmen heads....maybe nothing goes on and thats the problem?
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Why do Bangladesh keep chopping and changing their line up? The team that only lost by 23 runs seemed pretty solid to me...
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I struggle to comprehend how you can drop Nafees, sure hes been in poor form but no wonder when he plays a few games gets dropped, then is reselected and so on. Not to mention hess been shuffled around the order, no wonder he isn't scoring runs. Hes the best batsman Bangla have, cant afford to stuff him around.
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as for bangladesh, the more i see of tamim, the more i'm convinced that he'll be a star in the future.
 
I picked him to be the up and coming player of the year right back in january/early february.
 
16/4 now 44/4 and Shakib and Mahmudullah making batting look easy. Really makes me wonder what goes on inside those top order batsmen heads....maybe nothing goes on and thats the problem?


Maybe this is under the heads of the top order batsman of Bangladesh NZfast. Seems like a really stupid strategy.
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There just shouldn't be any need of risk from the top order batsman itself in my opinion as it just leads to pressure if top order gets out cheaply.

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well not the best of plans if that is the case by bangladesh.
 
yup NZ_fast, tamim is a very good talent, and believe me when i used to be on espn starsports forums last year, i predicted salman butt, tamim iqbal, gautam gambhir and upul tharanga to be the four super stars from the four sub continent teams.
 
by the way i'm delighted by salman's form he is doing really good this series, i watced only a bit of the match today and it was only to see asif bowl, and although he picked up a couple of wickets, he was far from being impressive today, bowling at around 120-125 K.
 
however it is his forst match after an injury layout and i can only hope he gets back into rythym soon, it was good to see umar gul bowl at full steam though, he was very impressive today.
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ok they have lost the match but the 9 wiket partnrship has helped them  other wise it might be 10 wikets loss. i tink BD wants practice against tough teems they are young and talented guys

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I think a big part of the problem now for Bangladesh is that teams do take them seriously now, or at least more so than they used to. So the opposition has lifted their game to play Bangla, but Bangla don't have that ability to lift another gear and so get found out.
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well competition wise it really turned out to be a very dull series, anyways just to finish it off, PAK wrap it up 5-0 and have also created a new national record for most consequtive wins in a row (11).

salman butt bagged the man of the series award and also created a new pakistani record for most runs by an individual in a bilateral series. it was good to see asif and gul back to full form and fitness.

as for bangladesh, we'll see a lot more of them in june when they play a triseries against IND and PAK, and then the asia cup.
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as for bangladesh,we'll see a lot more of them in june when they play a triseries against IND and PAK, and then the asia cup.


  A lot more Sam ?   The Bangladeshis get shot out so fast that they're probably the only cricketing side playing today where you can rightly claim that their entire innings was a nice little cameo.
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According to Pakistan team Zimbabwe are more competitve team than Bangladesh, players from zimbabwe knows the importance of partnership, they try to plan the innings but bangladeshi batsmen are one dimensional players.
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i agree with you both, but i still believe they are far more talented than the zimbabweans, i think dav whatmore was doing an excellent job with the kids, siddons is still to come to terms.
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They are more talented, but without a proper and consistent gameplan it is just going to waste.
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Bang just need some more runs from their batsman to put up a good enough showing.
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 And here was me thinking they just weren't good enough !  Simple  solution staring us all in the face - just score another 200 runs per 1 dayer and 400 in tests and problem solved !

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Ashraful says he is satisfied with thier performance in pakistan. just imagine what benchmarks they set for satisfaction!!! they surely must be relegated from the test status
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They should be , but they won't be.
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I would think what Ashraful meant was the single match where they scored 289 chasing over 300. That's all well and good, but without doing it more often Bangladesh are just another minnow.
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satisfaction for that one moment spread to the full series? Ashraful instead doesn't even justify his place in the squad these days
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