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sam_ahmed 
Middle-Order Batsman 
Joined: 27 November 2007 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 4363 |
 Topic: Bangladesh in West IndiesPosted: 02 August 2009 at 12:53pm |
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A whitewash in the tests was followed by a whitewash in the ODI's. They came from behind to win the last game, as Mahmudullah scored a fine half century to guide them home.
A win in today's T20 would mean BAN will go home undefeated!!!
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 4363 |
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 7:01am |
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Finally a consolation win for the WI in the one off T20. Have to say Roach was the find of the series for them. Guys like Dowlin have impressed too. It was a dream tour for BAN though and even they have found guys like Mahmudullah and Naeem Islam who have been impressive.
Unfortnately we are likely to see worse performances from WI against tougher opponents in CT.
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 3:18pm |
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Finally good to see the Winless Windies get a win but they still had a very disappointing tour. Dale Richards had to be the most clueless batsman I've ever seen against spin. No way in the world are you going to survive at this level that way. Fletcher has got batting talent, tight technique, rarely gets bowled but he likes to attack too much and that's his downfall. Dowlin though should make it into the side if Gayle and co returns, he batted very well.
For the bowling, Roach was the star, brutal pace was his key and I like how he doesn't over do bowling short, he understands the need of keeping it up on a length or back of a length, no fault in any as he has the pace for it. Sammy bowled very well too and his batting turned the corner a bit in the ODI series, there was notable improvement. Their latest wicket keeper Devon Thomas has been one of the best players of spin I've seen come into this West Indies team for a long time, played a good knock in the last ODI.
For Bangladesh, their batsmen will thrive on pitches like St. Kitts, Dominica etc and they have a good spin attack. It also helps that Madmullah can bat too. The pace attack needs some help though, and their batting ofcourse needs a lot more work. Too much work is left for Shakib and the lower order to do!
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 3:21pm |
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Maybe against the spinners sam but guys like Smith, Richards, Fletcher can beat any pacer all around the ground. Bangladesh pacers didn't really trouble these mediocre batsmen, they can bat brutal pace but it's the spin that slowed down all the good starts they got. The Sub continent sides will make a mess of them but I feel they'll do not so bad against the teams that plays more pacers.
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sam_ahmed
Middle-Order Batsman
Joined: 27 November 2007 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 4363 |
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 6:18pm |
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Saying this very honestly, I find your posts to be very correct and unbiased spin (except in some cases when you write about WI, but thats bound to happen when one comments on his own team)
I do agree that they'll do better on RSA tracks and one more thing, if the tracks are pacy then guys like Roach can be extremely dangerous. This current batting lacks class though. I found only Dowlin to be good enough for Int'l level. Fletcher has got talent but he is very inconsistent.
strange that the tracks in WI now are almost similar to those in BAN or SLN. BAN must have felt like playing at home really! Still credit to them, they've got the potential and need to grow from here on. Edited by sam_ahmed - 03 August 2009 at 6:19pm |
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 7:18pm |
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Some of the Bangladeshi's said they couldn't believe that the pitch would have been to their advantage. Everyway the current stuff are run in West Indies Cricket is the same how they play their Cricket. It seems as if the groundsmen are not knowledgeable anymore or they are just as lazy as the Windies team - it's one of the two.
I am a regular visitor to the international ground here and two weeks prior to the game, the pitch had no rolling whatsoever, it was only being watered and that's why it didn't offer more bounce because it was left to get harder and harder by the drying out of the water so when the rollers went on, it couldn't be compressed that much. I've seen some pitches here at times that were blisteringly quick, I think they do it by luck.
Sometimes I kid around a lot and that's when I tend to write things sounding really unbelieveable, being purely optimistic or if my mood for the day has been excellent. It's harder to detect in writing ofcourse so..... deep down, I know this team, neither the one with Gayle and co can accomplish much. Maybe in ODI's and T20 but they have a lot of foolish ways of going about stuff like playing too many part timers instead of specialist bowlers in ODI's. Rampaul should have went to England as well, the selectors are getting it wrong, Dowlin should have been given a shot a few years ago too, he has been a star here in T20 and he should have at least gotten into the ODI side seeing we had no other good opener for Gayle. Dave Mohammed can bat and bowl better than Benn too and it amazes me that Benn has gotten such a run than better looking spinners have gotten. Baker should be no where close to a WIndies Test and T20 team, maybe ODI's only but the real reason Windies picked him is because they didn't want to lose him to England as he was set to play for leicestershire I think, can't remember. Edited by spin wizard - 03 August 2009 at 7:19pm |
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mystery
Opener
Joined: 15 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2140 |
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 7:28pm |
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But teams know that they wont just let pacer bowl they might open with spinners team like India or SA.
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Rohit Sharma - What the world has seen is gear 1, gear speed 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 to be witnessed in IPL only.
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 7:33pm |
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I already said they'll struggle against sub continent teams, no need to mention India but from watching SA, Aus, Eng etc over the years, they'd be less reluctant to put on spinners that early. When Gayle and Fletcher were banging the Aussies all over the Oval, Ponting continued with Lee just to reinforce my point. Everyone knows West Indians are more prone to slow bowlers.
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MalhotraRaj84
Opener
Joined: 13 April 2009 Location: India1 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2204 |
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 8:31pm |
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I dont know about rest , there are only two players according to me who once start going have to stop on their own. One is Gayle other is Yuvraj.Get them initially with swing or spin early on else face the music.
Other left handed dynamites being Jayasuriya,Gilchrist and recently Albie Morkel what a captain can do when these kind of players get going?.Just watch and Marvell.
EDIT: What I wanted to say was that Ricky was helpless when Gayle was in such mood. Edited by MalhotraRaj84 - 03 August 2009 at 8:36pm |
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Race to No 1 again ... started!
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 8:49pm |
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You do have a point and a bottle. haha |
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MalhotraRaj84
Opener
Joined: 13 April 2009 Location: India1 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2204 |
Posted: 03 August 2009 at 9:06pm |
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 , its half past 1 in the night and no stock either.
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Race to No 1 again ... started!
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NZ_Fast
Wicket-Keeper
Joined: 21 August 2006 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 1928 |
Posted: 05 August 2009 at 9:14am |
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I haven't really followed this series much. Do you think any of the 'fill ins' will have earnt a permanent spot Spinny?
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zuhair_abbasi
Number 3 Batsman
Joined: 19 December 2006 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 6202 |
Posted: 05 August 2009 at 9:30am |
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Roach and the other guy who scored a century seem good enough
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spin wizard
Opening Bowler
The world’s next great spinner Joined: 21 January 2006 Location: Saint Vincent Online Status: Offline Posts: 9453 |
Posted: 05 August 2009 at 1:13pm |
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Roach, Dowlin and Sammy performed. Bernard did alright too but he needs to score more runs seeing his bowling won't have any batsman worrying.
I'd like to see Roach in Australia. There's one game at Perth and he's got real good pace.
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