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    Posted: 26 July 2011 at 7:22pm
With IND-ENG, SLN -AUS, there won't be many who would care about this but then this series will perhaps be a more competative one than the other two that are taking place.

Zimbabwe return to test cricket under a "white" captain in Brendon Taylor and while Bangladesh start off as firm favorites, I expect Zimbabwe to challenge then big time, I think in home conditions ZIM can match Bangladesh but then Bangla boys are more talented and have had good results against Zimbabwe in the past.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 August 2011 at 7:14pm
I might be the only one to follow this but I'm damn proud to be following a much closer series than the one going on in England, ZIM XI beat BAN by 4 wickets in the warm up 4 day game, that is very positive news for cricket Zimbabwe... not so good for the bangla boys but we'll see how the game goes when the real thing starts.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 August 2011 at 7:33am
So Zimbabwe get to play test cricket again after years in the wilderness.  The political interference has all but disappeared , but if big money from sponsors finds it's way into Cricket Zimbabwe's coffers you can be sure Mugabe will come knocking!
              Good luck to them though , they'll give Bangladesh a hard time in the test.
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and just when you thought all is well, Tatenda Taibu says ZC have "Painted a house that is about to fall", he has listed several problems regarding the administration and I can only hope Zimbabwe cricket doesn't go into wilderness again.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2011 at 1:38pm
Yes Sam , the Zimbabweans haven't been paid since August 2010 and not one of them has a contract!  It's a farce and I fully expect them to play like amateurs tomorrow - just what incentive have they when they're treated so shabbily?
        Notice that the ICC offer no support , but what of the players union led by Tim May ?  Are the Zimbabwean players not members of that body and if not , why not ?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2011 at 6:57pm
Yes sledge, I don't think the Zimbabwean players are a part of the players associationand if there is anything that has kept ZC alive it is the commitment of their players. Apparently they have got some franchise system in place and the franchise pays the players.

All set for zimbabwe's return to test cricket then, I am a fan of Brendon Taylor, for me he is one of the finest players in world cricket at the moment and so is Tamim Iqbal and I love him too, I hope to see a good game of cricket between two of my favorite teams.
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It's on TV here and I'll be having a look at lunchtime.  On paper Zimbabwe should have a fair chance of winning , but they haven't played any test cricket in years so impatience might play a part.  It could be a close contest.
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I expect BD to run away easily.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 August 2011 at 5:24pm
Bangladesh should be the favts but Zimbabwe have had a brilliant first day of return to test cricket, 264/2 and bangladesh bowling has looked hopeless. I wonder if Mashrafe's career is over because of injuries ... he hardly plays these days.

Great going by Zimbabwe, can they win their very first test on return??? who knows but their cricket has definitely taken a lot of steps in the right direction in the last 6-8 months.

I'd expect BAN to do well too though, Tamim and Shakib and co could mean a high scoring draw.
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I am soooo very happy for the Zimbabweans!!! Good to see them in whites!!
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Good to see players from Zimbabwe back into Test Cricket!!
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A good start by the Zimbabweans , but they threw the 2 wickets away and the bowling was woeful !!  There's no grass whatsoever on the track so I expect both sides to pass 400 in their 1st innings.
             I don't care what anyone says , Bangladesh are not improving. Their seam bowling is a joke and their fielding even worse !
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Overseas where Bangladeshi spinners are ineffective the team struggles big time, Bangla are all about spinning their opponents out and they have some good batters who can score some runs, their pace attack is very thin and after Mortaza's injuries it has become more thin.

They have come back quite well in the match though, z much better performance with the ball today but Zimbabwe are still ahead I'd esp because Bangladesh will have to bat last on this wicket.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 August 2011 at 5:16pm
ZIM 175 ahead with 6 wickets in hand, Taibu and Brendon at the crease it looks as if Zimbabwe will win their 1st ever test on retun, that will be huge for Zimbabwe, as much as I'd like to see BAN do well in cricket, I will  still be delighted if Zimbabwe win here and make a mark. Thumbs Up
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375 to win and currently 112-3 - it's looking grim  for the Bangladeshis.  They've been comprehensively outplayed from day 1 and only managed to take 5 wickets in Zimbabwe's 2nd dig - their bowling is dire !   The only consolation for the visitors is that ther's only the one test !
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Gritty stuff from Zimbabwe - I want them win this comeback test. They really do deserve this. Less we talk about BD, the better it is.
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 Sam was right. This test a lot more engrossing that the Eng/Ind one. Been pretty close, even though BD seemed to be behind the 8-ball from the start they've never let Zim run away with it. A good positive start by them in the 4th innings but Zim has grabbed back the initiative with those late wickets. BD still got the batting prowess to make a match out of this. Glad to see that the Zimbabweans got the stomach for Test cricket against the Bangladeshis . Wouldn't have minded a few more tests between the two.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 August 2011 at 10:07am
Not many test captains of today would declare with 375 needed to win - when there was a case of batting another session. Brave call from Taylor I say
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A terrific win for the Zimbabweans and fully deserved - Taylor's had a fine match !  I won't comment further on the visitors for fear of repetition.    I wonder if Bob was watching , some of the guys might get their farms back.
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Zimbabwe were never a world beater, but they rarely embarrassed themselves. Can't say the same for BD.
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fantastic win for the Zimbabweans, I'm delighted for them , Brendon taylor has started off so positively I was looking at the FTP and I see very few series for ZIM which is a shame and I hope that changes because this team is surely on the right track.

As for bangladesh, yes this is a bit of an embarrassment for them but then I'd say these are two pretty evenly matched teams so this game could have gone either way. Bangladesh alsways struggle in foreign conditions where the ball swings around so this should not be much of a surprise. The ODI series should be very exciting too although I'd expect bangladesh to do much better in the shorter form of the game because their style of play suits it better.
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Great comeback for the Zimbabweans, happy for them.  Good to see some of the guys on the big stage to make a decent living for themselves as things aren't too good back home!
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Ball swings around? By and large Sam the wicket was flat and easy to score runs off. BD don't win games because they aren't a test side. Simple as that. Their batsmen have no patience and they have no fast bowlers to speak of. They were versing a team that had 4 debutants and they let one of them take 8 wickets in the test. For crying out loud, isn't it anymore obvious? BD should not be playing test cricket at all - period. This is embarrassing. You have much more talented players in Holland and Ireland, yet none of them are playing tests.

What's more embarrassing is Tamim Iqbal calling the Zim bowlers ordinary and saying that BD should easily chase 300+. Funny that, the guy was ALREADY out and was out to one of the so called 'ordinary bowlers'. It's the BD bowlers that are ordinary...
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Stand and applaud. This is historic. The guys are driven only by the passion and the love of the game - I doubt if there are enormous financial benefits out there. Loved the spirited effort. great m moment for them. I expect Zim to get tougher by the day and don't be surprised if they pull out a win in their next test assignment versus Pakistan.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote vote4peace Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2011 at 6:37am
  I'm afraid Mikey's right. BD just doesn't look the part in Test cricket. The conditions were, if any, quiet ideal for them. There appears to be a mental block somewhere within that they just cannot override.  In 70-odd matches they've managed just 3 wins (two of which were against a third or fourth string WI side) against 60 losses, while Zimbabwe's won 9 from 80-odd and lost 49. Sorry to say but Bangladesh Test growth just seems stagnant if they ain't moving backwards.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2011 at 6:58pm
The track was doing a bit Mikey, I did saw the game and I must say Vitori and Jarvis were moving it quite nicely. I wasn't a pitch which the Bangladeshis would likebut having said that they should have won against a team that was making a come back after such a long time.

Bnagladesh on paper have players who show flashes of brilliance but the consistency is just not quite there, Zimbabwe do not have highly talented players except for Taylor and may be taibu but all of them do well within their limitations and have better temprament.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zuhair_abbasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 August 2011 at 5:34am
I  disagree mate - good talent was on show from Zimbabwe. Apart from Taylor, Ervine, Vitori, Price and Jarvis are pretty good. Price is ranked somewhere in the top 10 bowlers in ODIs if I am not mistaken. Bangladesh do have talent - but that is of little use if that shows up as a surprise element twice a year. time is here to relegate them or create another division for teams 7-12
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Price is a fighting, aggressive bowler and comes from a good sporting pedigree - his uncle is one of the best in the world of golf. Taylor is hands down one of the best batsmen to come from Zimbabwe in a long time, he may rank along with Houghton and Andy Flower as the best from Zimbabwe by the end of his career. Taibu is a very decent keeper batsman, and don't forget Taylor is also a keeper too. Vitori and Jarvis appear to make a formidable opening partnership also, and you can't forget that Zim also have a few other spinners - like Uteysa, who weren't picked. Coventry is also a decent batsman and he could play test cricket soon. There's definitely talent present and this is discounting the fact that guys like Sean Ervine refuse to play - while other cricketers had their careers cut short like Streak, Flower, etc.
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I forgot Ray Price and I agree he is one of the best spinners in the world at the moment.

Look guyz Bangladesh last played a test in June 2010 against ENG and since then they haven't played any test either. How do the ICC or anyone expect them to improve without giving them proper exposure? you want them to play 2-3 times a year and win those games? That is not on. Further top teams like IND and ENG have refused to invite them (and ZIM) for even a single series in the next 9 years!!! That is astonishing!

This is where I have great respect for teams like RSA, SLN and PAK because despite being cricketing powerhouses they are never shy of playing against minnows and are always there to help them out, they give back a lot to the game of cricket and not just take from it. one can say that PAK are doing it may be because they want support from other boards but then even when PAK cricket was on a high they have always played series against ZIM and BAN on a consistent basis.

The BCCI would not want a home series against BAN or ZIM because it would not generate good revenues, is that what cricket is all about? is it all about making money? Why can't they think about the game, about the lesser nations and why can't they help them out. Why can't they give something back to the game of cricket? I'd would much rather see a 3 match ODI series between IND-ZIM or IND-BAN than a 50 day IPL circus or a 20 day champions league circus.

ENG on the other hand are very helpful to european nations like Ireland, Netherlands and Scotland, they play against them, they involve their players in county games, they even had NET as part of their domestic competition team I think this year but I do not often see them extend this support to nations outside of Europe.
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Sam the cricketing calendar is drawn up by the ICC - every test playing nation has to play Bangladesh in the 2 year window - whether they want to or not !
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