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    Posted: 02 July 2006 at 5:18pm
So in other words you did a Upul Tharanga
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Upul Tharanga??
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but whether he meant that is debatable !
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Let's discuss each others initial movements now. What type of movement do each of you have just before the bowler releases the ball?
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raising the back lift and getting ready to move foreward, being on your toes to stay back.

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I seem to take a step forward onto the front foot as it's easy to come onto the back foot for a shot if necessary.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RightHandBat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 July 2006 at 11:29am
Mine is a slight shift of weight onto my front foot then I shift onto the backfoot if I have to play a shot on the backfoot, if not I stay on my front foot and play the selected stroke.
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I tend to have a high backlift to a fast bowler because it makes it easier to 'punch' the ball without too much effort. Obviously situations dictate little changes to my trigger movement depending on what kind of bowler is bowling.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ozzie001 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2006 at 12:06am

I try to stay as still as possible then transfer my weight to my to the front foot as the bowler delivers the ball.  As mentioned in other posts I also find it easy from this position to play from either front or back foot whilst still watching the ball closely.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote RightHandBat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2006 at 12:44am
Originally posted by TCA123

I tend to have a high backlift to a fast bowler because it makes it easier to 'punch' the ball without too much effort. Obviously situations dictate little changes to my trigger movement depending on what kind of bowler is bowling.


I also have a high backlift and an unorthodox grip, so I get lots of power from punching/driving the ball, whether it hits the top of the bat, or the bottom of the bat.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2006 at 1:15am

Originally posted by righthandbat

Mine is a slight shift of weight onto my front foot then I shift onto the backfoot if I have to play a shot on the backfoot, if not I stay on my front foot and play the selected stroke.

You seem more of a Indian than an aussie. Strange it is.

My is to carry my backfoot across then my front foot a little forward before the bowler release then when he releases the ball , I then either continue to go forward , or ease backwards for the shorter balls or even stay dead on the spot for backward of a lenght deliveries.

I don't go forward for balls on my leg stump though no matter if it is a drive cause I flick um.

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Originally posted by spin wizard

Originally posted by righthandbat

Mine is a slight shift of weight onto my front foot then I shift onto the backfoot if I have to play a shot on the backfoot, if not I stay on my front foot and play the selected stroke.

You seem more of a Indian than an aussie. Strange it is.



How so? It's just how I bat.
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thats the trigger movement the indians use. Thats what I meant. I know its unorthodox of an aussie so thats why I said that.
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Ah, right. That's the movement I grew up using so I guess it is kind of weird to some people for an Aussie to be using an indian movement.
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thats what I meant mate , spot on.
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I do a flick on the legside. It gets me runs and frequently gets me out. For example take a match not too long ago. First ball i leaned and flicked it for 4 off my leg stump. Two balls later i do the exact same movement, miss the ball and legstump is gone.

I think it's because my head falls over.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote RightHandBat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 July 2006 at 3:04am
Your leg stump is gone because your not well balanced when executing the shot. Balance is the key to scoring lots of runs and your head probably isn't straight.
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I have a slight backlift and shuffle across a bit .
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Originally posted by Ck_spin

Upul Tharanga??

 

You know the Sri Lankan batsman, Harmi, hit him on the head (well, the helmet) and it went for 4

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Iam a right hand batsman

I have a tendency to play a lot in the sqaure, third-man and gully areas.. and am restricted when it comes to drives or on-side

People who watched me bat mentioned that the moment ball is released by the bowler, my left foot is going back (subconsciously - i seem to be making space for the cut shot on the off)

Is this my trigger movement - how do i correct this

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Post Options Post Options   Quote crick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 July 2006 at 11:11pm

if it is your trigger movement without knowing it then the only way to change it would be to conciously not move it, or move it in the correct direction and repeating it till you are used to the new one by use of throw downs, which way is your foot moving? i.e. toward leg, towards the stumps, toward off? or a combination of 2?

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote RightHandBat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 July 2006 at 7:31am
Originally posted by TCA123

I do a flick on the legside. It gets me runs and frequently gets me out. For example take a match not too long ago. First ball i leaned and flicked it for 4 off my leg stump. Two balls later i do the exact same movement, miss the ball and legstump is gone.

I think it's because my head falls over.



I also forgot to mention that you're eyes aren't level, if they aren't, it takes longer for your brain to process incoming information. That's why balance is very important.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ozzie001 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 July 2006 at 11:33am

Originally posted by nishy

I have a tendency to play a lot in the sqaure, third-man and gully areas.. and am restricted when it comes to drives or on-side

I would say much more behind square.  Are you getting caught a lot behind the wicket?  Are you opening the blade when you play to gully.  I'd suggest trying to play as straight as possible.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote nishy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 July 2006 at 3:54pm

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I rarely get caught behind - I play very late - and yes open the bat to gully..

What i have noticed is when the ball pitches a little full on the middle and cuts in - I get bowled - basically like a sitting duck

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Cover your gate  in between bat and pad up.
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Yeah keep the gap between bat and pad tight.

Could anybody give me some advice on whereabouts i should use the sweep shot against off spinners. When bowling over the wicket the ball rarely pitches on leg so should i not be sweeping?

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Originally posted by TCA123

Yeah keep the gap between bat and pad tight.

Could anybody give me some advice on whereabouts i should use the sweep shot against off spinners. When bowling over the wicket the ball rarely pitches on leg so should i not be sweeping?

 

You should be sweeping on length, not line.  If you pick the right length each time, you should always make contact thus avoiding any potential lbw.

 

If you're only sweeping when the ball is on leg stump, if the ball isn't quite full enough you risk getting top edges.



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I used to have a trigger movement of moving my back foot back. I was awesome on the back foot, especially pull shots, anything just short of a length could be whipped over square leg. Couldn't hit a cover drive though.

Then I had a season full of lbws with the ball keeping low, so I consciously changed my initial movment to a small forward press. My defense became rock solid, and the cover drive my best shot, but my pull shot is now terrible. With no confidence of the bounce, and my weight on the front foot, I've often been caught at mid wicket, high on the bat. Cut shots aren't bad but occasionally get caught at gully.

My head also started falling to the off side, which meant missing out on the legside freebies. 

Overall, I'm a better player because of it, but can't find anything comfortable enough to play all shots with the same efficiency.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote RightHandBat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 July 2006 at 9:36am
That also happened to me mikeeboy. I had a season of lbw's which ticked me off, after looking back and fixing the problems, I became a better and more technical player. The only thing is, I didn't use that movement.
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Yeah keep the gap between bat and pad tight.

Could anybody give me some advice on whereabouts i should use the sweep shot against off spinners. When bowling over the wicket the ball rarely pitches on leg so should i not be sweeping?

Well i've been told by someone that you shouldn't sweep the ball unless it is on our outside leg stump. But i find that the ball rarely pitches there so where else should i use the sweep.

You should be sweeping on length, not line.  If you pick the right length each time, you should always make contact thus avoiding any potential lbw.

 

If you're only sweeping when the ball is on leg stump, if the ball isn't quite full enough you risk getting top edges.

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