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    Posted: 29 June 2006 at 1:56pm

Firstly, sorry if there is a topic like this

Just thought it would be interested to see how other players view their time in the nets. Whats your take on net practice?

Is it a time to experiment with new shots?
To practice shots your already accomplished at to refine technique?
Try shots/techniques you would never attempt in a match - like a reverse sweep for many people?
To have fun generally?
To focus on one particular shot untill you can play it consistantly?

Now no doubt one could say all of the above but in reality i've seen many players view their time in the nets differently and have different goals they want to achieve from a session. How do you treat your net time?

The above is from a strictly batting point of view.
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I'm a bowler and I usually bat lower down the order so I'm trying to get a good defensive technique right now. I try to defend most of the balls I face. I can play fast like most tailenders, going for the big hits, but I'm woring on my technique in the nets now so I can bat higher up the order consistently. 
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i find most net sessions are simply making sure you improve the technique of the shots, and the shot selection, but some net sessions you can try new shots, such as reverse sweep, come down wicket, new trigger movements etc as it dont matter if you get out!
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recently I've been working specifically on my cover drive and straight drive because i hit across the line.

But me and my mates compete for wickets as we're all all-rounders. We play whoever gets the most wickets wins. So the idea is to hit some shots but value your wicket. It's a very good system.

[EDIT - continuation]

The Batsmen is obviously there to play shots and practice but at the same time, not be stupid and get out. We count our wickets and every one is important. We all bat the same amount of time. We find this system encourages the batsmen to play sensibly and value their wicket, but also encourage the bowlers to try harder, practising variation amongst wicket taking balls.

Realistically catchable edges are given out, LBWs are decided by appealing to the other bowlers, who then act as an umpire and bowled..well is bowled  Great fun and fantastic practice



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Throwdowns or a bowling machine are a better way of working on 1 particular shot or weakness, you need the repetative nature of these to get the trigger movements to become automatic. In the nets you should train as you play, treating each ball on it's merits and really still try to value your wicket, I always offer any a free beer after training to any bowler who takes my wicket, it really makes you concentrate. I dont know about letting bowlers judge lbw's though, most have a hard enough time getting their boot laces done up.
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I mostly go to the nets to have fun, but sometimes I work on my technique.
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the bowlers i find are honest about LBWs...In the end it's in the interest of practice. Plus we don't want the batsmen to have silly let offs!
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I work on playing through the off side off the front foot mainly, just pushing it through for singles to get better batsmen on strike.
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I mainly try and play straight because in the twenty over format my age group plays, i become to obsessed with scoring quickly and end up abadoning technique. Something i need to be shot for
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practice bilding an innings.
Start off with a few blocks till your eye is in, then the proper checked strokes, then full blooded strokes and finally the slogs.
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i go in the nets to just practice on anything bad from the last game but mostly to have fun

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I practice leaving the ball as much as I can in the nets.
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Originally posted by UKKiwi

I practice leaving the ball as much as I can in the nets.



That's not improving technique...
"His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
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oh but my techniques are fine :)
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Originally posted by UKKiwi

oh but my techniques are fine :)



No ones technique is fine, you should always be looking to improve on it and make it flawless.
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Originally posted by RightHandBat

Originally posted by UKKiwi

oh but my techniques are fine :)



No ones technique is fine, you should always be looking to improve on it and make it flawless.
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I suggest most people playing at a fairly high level have techniques that are fine and maybe the flaw in his technique is ball leaving so that is why he practices it. I also believe that there is no perfect technique, look at all  the modern batsman, all have flaws. It's about producing runs, I have seen many batsman that look very pretty but do not produce runs. I think the key to working on your game is videoing some of your nets, people can explain things all they want but until you see it for yourself you will rarley improve.
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Thanks for that, since I wasnt really in the mood to get into this ' no one's techniques are fine ' debate :)  Techniques from the old text book is one thing, but at the end of the day the best techniques are those who gets you the most runs, you can have all the techniques you want but if you are so preoccupied with them all the time it could be detrimental to your game out in the middle.  Coming back to the thread, yes, as an opener, I needed to practice leaving the ball more :)
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leaving the ball is something all good batsmen should practice at, why play at a ball you don't need to if the shot you will try to play won't produce a run? All you are doing is risking the chance of losing your wicket, thats why i think leaving the ball is incredibly important
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I think people have a funny attitude about leaving balls in the nets though.  Bowlers think you are a pussy and others think you are a waste of a 15 minute batting time! My team mates are so used to me hitting anything absolutely necessary now, they know if they want me to play a shot they will have to bowl accurately.  At the end of the day we all benefit from it.
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I hate leaving balls in the nets. You get a few mins to bat so why waste it?
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For me its all of the above chices. Since I'm a bowler and a no.10 batsman I try and improve my bowling and add more swing to it. When I bat, my coach gives a little less time for me than for others. I try my best to touch the ball with my bat. I'm not that bad, but my helmet was really bad so I couldn't really see the ball clearly. Then my technique is horrible when I play with my pads on and against a cricket ball. I not very used to it. Just as I was improving, I moved from the country last year. For one full year I never played any cricket then finally I found an area where there are net sessions and I'm going to start next week if it doesn't rain. Hopefully I can improve and become a very good allrounder.
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Originally posted by henjam

leaving the ball is something all good batsmen should practice at, why play at a ball you don't need to if the shot you will try to play won't produce a run? All you are doing is risking the chance of losing your wicket, thats why i think leaving the ball is incredibly important


Scoring fast in One Day cricket is essential, so that's why you should be working on a shot for every ball, because if you do, you will find that you will succeed more often.
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of course you are right, but knowing where your stumps are is extremely important for an opener, in one day or longer version of the game.
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of course you are right, but knowing where your stumps are is extremely important for an opener, in one day or longer version of the game.


That's what taking guard is for. If you take guard on middle stump, then you will know where your leg stump, and off stump is, from there on, it's up to you to decide which shot to select. All I'm saying though, is you should be looking to score very quickly in one day cricket. Not looking to leave deliveries.


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Originally posted by RightHandBat

Originally posted by henjam

leaving the ball is something all good batsmen should practice at, why play at a ball you don't need to if the shot you will try to play won't produce a run? All you are doing is risking the chance of losing your wicket, thats why i think leaving the ball is incredibly important


Scoring fast in One Day cricket is essential, so that's why you should be working on a shot for every ball, because if you do, you will find that you will succeed more often.
I play in 48 over matches, so there is still plenty of time to leave good balls, especially early on in my innings!
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Originally posted by henjam

leaving the ball is something all good batsmen should practice at, why play at a ball you don't need to if the shot you will try to play won't produce a run? All you are doing is risking the chance of losing your wicket, thats why i think leaving the ball is incredibly important


Scoring fast in One Day cricket is essential, so that's why you should be working on a shot for every ball, because if you do, you will find that you will succeed more often.
I play in 48 over matches, so there is still plenty of time to leave good balls, especially early on in my innings!



Well, I guess it also depends on the batsman. I'm a batsman who likes to be aggressive right from the start, and if I'm bowled a delivery which has width, I like to take advantage of it.
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Yes i tend to play a shot at quite a wide deliver, but you i am taling about agood length ball just outside the off stup, a ball that a scoring shot cannot be played to!!
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Yes i tend to play a shot at quite a wide deliver, but you i am taling about agood length ball just outside the off stup, a ball that a scoring shot cannot be played to!!


A scoring shot can be played to any delivery, except a yorker.



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Ok a ball that involves risk and could cause losing your wicket if an attacking shot is played at
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I play at almost everything in the nets. Unless i'm there all day which i do all the time. If i have a long net i will leave deliveries and spend ages practising defence. But also shots like the paddle sweep and the reverse sweep which i wouldn't waste my time with in a shorter net.
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