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    Posted: 23 January 2007 at 6:47pm
LOL. Yeah, outstanding and annoying! You can say that again.
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Originally posted by inzamam329

Collingwoooood?!!!! Thats a joke. For me its Ponting, Yousaf, Inzy and lara.


Agree with ur comments -- Only those batmen always play in pressure especially Mohamamd Yousuf and Inzimam is thanks to Pakistan openers who fail to live with expectation .

Ricky Pointing? -- no way -- he always come to bat in first down -- he has never played in under pressure before -- only Hussey can play in under pressure -- not Ricky LOL

Talking abt Lara -- No doubt he is the best -- no word to describe abt him Smile
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i think hussey is he can b constructive when required and also destructive
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Ponting has never performed under pressure?

Who are you? And have you ever seen the man bat? What about on Sunday night when he sank New Zealand will a brillant hundred under pressure chasing 291. Thas was pressure considering they needed 8 and over with 20 to go.

His 156 to save the forth Ashes test in 2005, that was pressure at it's extreme.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote MalikBrother Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 February 2007 at 8:50pm
Originally posted by Sledger

Save your breath bondie , MalikBrother can't see past his beloved Pakistan.


wht u talking abt -  Pakistan was the only team to have better middle order batmen who  play in under pressure -- Austrailia had two  like Steve Waugh and  Michael Bevan -- But Ricky come in first down and most of  his  shot like  just cracking shots  and never be careful  to lead the team -- No doubt Ricky is the great batman cause he always make century in a cool way - dont forget whenver Ricky doesnt click -- only hussey and Symond play in under pressure like remember in WC 2003 against Pakistan which first four wickets were gone and Symond has played in under pressure and then he started hitting above 40 overs to lead  above 300 runs --- that s the situation i m talking abt -- no doubt Ricky is great and most importantly, he happens to be best matchwinner -

@ Pakistan never had best openers after Amir Sohail and Saeed Answer and Most of the times, Yousuf and Inzimam used to lead in under pressure all the times and Pakistan still has no best openers -- only Pakistan can win becoz of middle order batman and bowlers -- not openers Smile


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Ponting has never performed under pressure?

Who are you? And have you ever seen the man bat? What about on Sunday night when he sank New Zealand will a brillant hundred under pressure chasing 291. Thas was pressure considering they needed 8 and over with 20 to go.

His 156 to save the forth Ashes test in 2005, that was pressure at it's extreme.

Please do not comment if you do not know what you are talking about, cheers.



Those are the test matches -- he made 150 to save forth Ashes test in 2005 - Sometimes , he can play in under presssure - but he is not that player who always  click  in the situation like  losing first three or four wickets and then u got to lead the way Mohammad Yousuf always does  now inspite of Pakistan team losing first three wickets  all the  times but Yousuf always click in that situation - that s why Pakistan has no good openers Confused- only middle order batmen Shocked

@ Ricky Pointing doesnt have to play in under pressure all the times cause of test player like Mathew  Hayden ,  and cant remember the batman who  was  test opener as well and retired after  the Ashes 2006/2007 - No doubt Ricky Pointing is great  and he has better average -- dont think he plays in under pressure when he  makes  double century or above 150 - beside u can check his strike rate  that how he makes quick century like  playing in one day matches --- 

@ Austrailia has two best players who play in under pressure especially in one day and test and those are known as Steve Waugh and Michael Bevan and Hussey will be futurestar of playing in under pressure while Symond on the one day format Smile -  but Ricky is still better than  them Clap


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Post Options Post Options   Quote bondy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 February 2007 at 10:11pm
Your posts don't make any sense neither grammatically nor in content.
 
Ponting is hardly ever under pressure. When he is he performs.
 
Pakistan are one of the classic examples of teams that crumble under pressure, they have world class players but can't win a world cup? Or beat Aussie in test matches?
 
Yousef had one brilliant season and that makes him a GREAT batsman under pressure? He did nothing recently against South Africa when he was under pressure, Inzy did but he didn't.
 
Some of the points you are making are true, but try and make them impartially instead of clouding your judgement with your love of Pakistan.
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Originally posted by bond2322

Your posts don't make any sense neither grammatically nor in content.
 
Ponting is hardly ever under pressure. When he is he performs.
 
Pakistan are one of the classic examples of teams that crumble under pressure, they have world class players but can't win a world cup? Or beat Aussie in test matches?
 
Yousef had one brilliant season and that makes him a GREAT batsman under pressure? He did nothing recently against South Africa when he was under pressure, Inzy did but he didn't.
 
Some of the points you are making are true, but try and make them impartially instead of clouding your judgement with your love of Pakistan.


One point  u have made is correct abt my grammar and i m not good at it -- do i care enough to correct my grammer english ? -- grow up - u guys  and be not like guys who becomes doctors and show attitude to someone who is not doctor LOL

the real test will be if ricky comes down on fourth -- losing first wicket and seems not to be in pressure while playing and easily lead the innings unless if there is situation like  4 wickets are already down  and Ricky loses wicket then Austrailia will be  gone  -- basically ,  i have  never seen his batting in under pressure cause Austrailia batmen like Adam Gilchrist and Mathew Hayden hardly give the wickets away--- how that can be when RIcky makes century and u call him the batman who play under pressure -?- Australia is good team cause of  like Adam Gilchrist , Hayden , Hussey , Clark  and if Ricky takes of hussey and send hussey to first down --- then if Ricky click in that situation like Hussey does  -- then u can call him batman who play in under pressure like hussey does --- no doubt Ricky is best batman in the world --Clap

@ If u talking abt Yousuf and Inzimam -- if they dont click once and u guys start to talk abt Pak vs SA series that they didn't click in under pressure -- they have done it before especially against Sri Lanka, India , NZlead, England and against Australia as well especially one of the matches in 2004 in England and in Austrailia ( 2005) as well    -- Both  batmen have done  lots of times --   there  are  lots of  matches u dont know how they handled opposition when they both were in 44 runs and already lost 4 wickets then they always ended up above 200 from 44  --  if u think  i m Pakistani fan that s why i m suporting them --- u r wrong -- there are others players like Michael Beven and Steve Waugh and also Sangakkara  who also click in under pressure -

@ u guys really dont know abt under pressure -- u always see Austrailia coming up with above 500 runs and barely lose three wickets then also declare too--- that s not like playing in under pressure although they have played well and really fired em as aggressive batmen  Big%20smile -  i m also talking abt Steve Waugh and Michael Bevan as well -- they are batmen who clicks in  under pressure when first four batmen dismiss by bowlers from the beginning   --  dont tell me  it s  all abt beloved Pakistan -- atleast Steve  Waugh and Michael Bevan are not Pakistani batmen LOL so are not Hussey and Symond who are the best batmen who can click in under pressure anytime they can  - no doubt Big%20smile


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Saying Ponting don't bat under pressure at all is non sense. There are a few matches recently which shows he can play under pressure. He isn't under pressure right away as he comes in 1 down and the Aussies openers do click a lot but he can bat under pressure. It's something all great batsmen do - bat under almost any kind of situation.
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I happen to agree with Malikbrother.
 
I would also like to state that Imran Khan is the greatest batsman of all time, Saqlain Mustaq is the world premier spinner and if Salim Malik does not recieve cricketing knighthood for his bowling over the years there is somethin wrong. Oh yeah did I mention The world's second best batsman Sir Donald Bradman was also from Pakistan!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
All these batsmen play under pressure and that is what makes Lara, Ponting and Tendulker greats. They play under the weight of expectation and that is the greatest pressure of all. Yousef is a good player who has had a stand out year. The three mentioned before have been standouts for the last 5-6 years.
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What are you on about?
 
Talk sense or sense some cricketing knowledge.
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Saying Ponting don't bat under pressure at all is non sense. There are a few matches recently which shows he can play under pressure. He isn't under pressure right away as he comes in 1 down and the Aussies openers do click a lot but he can bat under pressure. It's something all great batsmen do - bat under almost any kind of situation.
The best answer will be to get Hussey, Symonds and Gilly out of the team and put few other guys in and then try out what ponting can do. This is the situation with the greatest of "pressure players". Inzi definietly is one, Steve Waugh, Dean Jones, Martin Crowe, Bevan, Aravinda de Silva, Miandad, Azaruddin are few that I can remember as real pressure players as they have guided tha tail and taken batting through single handedly. Ponting is in a quality team and once in a while he'll carry the team single handedly to the victory because he is a great player. But the real difference comes when they have to do it day and day out and succeed. That's why I rate de Silva among top 10 one day batsman, because the ability to play under immense pressure.
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[QUOTE=inzamam329]Collingwoooood?!!!! Thats a joke. For me its Ponting, Yousaf, Inzy and lara.


Is that why he played 2 brilliant centuries in a row under pressure!
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[QUOTE=inzamam329]Collingwoooood?!!!! Thats a joke. For me its Ponting, Yousaf, Inzy and lara.


Is that why he played 2 brilliant centuries in a row under pressure!



if he made 2 brilliant centuries in a row under pressure - that would prove he is unpredicable -- still he has long way to go or must convince us again  to prove he is batman player who can play in under pressure -- no doubt he is good batmen but sometimes he can be predicable -- if he keep doing like that - no doubt he will  be far  better  and  batman who can play in under pressure  -  he is begining  to become batman  who can  win the matches by himself -- good news for England team Big%20smile


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What kind of pressure? Are we talking about winning a match or saving one?

Winning a match I'd say Ponting without a doubt. I can't think of anyone else in world cricket able to adapt their game better than him.

As for saving a match, let's just say that if my team was 30/5 at the start of the last day of a test, I'd want Dravid and Kallis at the crease.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote scuudz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 March 2007 at 5:39am
I think we are talking about just pressure in general and not a specific situation.  30/5 is one scenario like you mentioned but if the opposition puts 350 on the board and you get off to a solid start say 80/1 off 12 overs.  The batsman at number 3 would still be under pressure with 9 wickets in hand.  I believe the 4 players I mentioned above would be able to do the job more often than not in all pressure-cooker situations.
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who is the best batsmen under pressure and when runs are needed???
 
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For me it is in cronology top five
 
Ricky Ponting: He perfoms in any situation so he gets my number one.
Mik Hussy: His entrence to ODI arena was a nightmare to opponets, wunded SA many times, and what is his weakness?
Graem Smith: He has the highest average against Aussies for an opposition and the highest strike rate
Brian Lara (was): Reason why Windies are still atest playing nation
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got to say Lara and Tendulkar because most of the time their team are in trouble or don't get enough support from other batsman.
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That is more true for Lara than Tendulkar because Lara pretty much carried the Windies' batting on his back for most of his career.  Tendulkar only did that for India in the early 90s.  After Dravid, Ganguly and to some extent Laxman and Sehwag came along, Tendulkar has not had to carry all the burden by himself.
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What kind of pressure? Are we talking about winning a match or saving one?

As for saving a match, let's just say that if my team was 30/5 at the start of the last day of a test, I'd want Dravid and Kallis at the crease.

 
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