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Poll Question: who is the best batting skipper
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    Posted: 03 February 2006 at 2:45am
i agree with you saad. even though smith his young and a good captain he certain comes below inzy coz inzy is lot more experience and smith has a lot more to learn. moreover he also has to develop more as a captain as well.
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Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy

Not really, haveyou seen him play when in form, he has more skill then Inzi and is much better in my opinion, you may say that he is playing bad now and has not got passed 41 in one match this tour but he is only 24 and is young and not many have done this well so early in their career, Sachin pops into mind but not too many others, plus he has the burden of captaincy at this point of time. Inzi has been in worse slumps and at least Smith is fit and can actually run and field and even help out with the ball, I do not particulary like Smith what so ever but he is good no doubt.


All those points are valid, but currently I would rank Inzamam ahead of Smith.
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Not really, haveyou seen him play when in form, he has more skill then Inzi and is much better in my opinion, you may say that he is playing bad now and has not got passed 41 in one match this tour but he is only 24 and is young and not many have done this well so early in their career, Sachin  pops into mind but not too many others, plus he has the burden of captaincy at this point of time. Inzi has been in worse slumps and at least Smith is fit and can actually run and field and even help out with the ball, I do not particulary like Smith what so ever but he is good no doubt.
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Graeme Smith 2nd as batting skipper??

That's a surprise.
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IN my opinion it is : -

  1. Ricky Ponting
  2. Graeme Smith
  3. Inzamam ul-Haq
  4. Rahul Dravid
  5. Michael Vaughan
  6. Shiv Chanderpaul
  7. Marvan Attapatu
  8. Stephen Fleming (Because of his conversion rate of 50's to 100's, extremely poor)
  9.  &    10., who cares
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True. Ponting's form in the Test arena has been simply outstanding. He just keeps getting better and better. But he doesn't bat under as much pressure as Inzamam does.

Inzamam has also been in great form with the bat...though not as good as Ponting. The reason for that could be that he almost always has to bat under pressure. He knows that his failure could mean the failure of the team. He knows that his failure could change the result of the match. When Inzamam fails, most of the times the rest of the batting order just gets ripped apart as well. But when Inzamam does well, which is almost always, the rest of the team is confident that they can do well. Inzamam is almost as good as Ponting currently in batting.

And he is certainly a better skipper than Ponting, so that leads to me to conclude that he is a better batting/skipper than Ponting.

The reason why I say that Inzamam is a better skipper than Ponting is that they both lead completely different teams. Ponting took over from a great captain -Steve Waugh- who had made the Australian team nearly perfect. Ponting leads a bunch of high class players...Gilchrist, Hayden, McGrath, Warne, etc., etc. They are the ones that are responsible for the success of the Australian team...not the captaincy of Ponting.

Inzamam on the other hand leads a bunch of amateur youngsters. And before Inzamam was made skipper, the Pakistan side had already gone through a lot of twists and turns, so it wasn't easy taking over as captain. He took a Pakistan team that was completely hopeless until he was made captain. He took this bunch of hopeless, amateur youngsters and he turned them into a bunch of hardworking, committed, and collective cricketers. He has made the Pakistan team a top team.

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Fleming was really impressive until he got out of form but i think he will be back in form in no time
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i would like to say fleming but he is out of form so i would say ricky ponting for his form last year and this year in the test

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Originally posted by prayas

even though both are highly qualified and rated batsmen and skipper i think the more likely winner will be the big man inzy. his batting is simply superb and he has hold pakistan team in such a way that they improved from almost 0 to 10. pakistan were collapsing after world cup 1999 but after inzy captained the side, they improved a lot even though they had lots of youngser playing. but ricky was simply replacing one of the greatest captain of all time who helped to build a perfect team. even though it wasnot that easy for ponting i think it was much more difficult for inzy to captain a side and be successful


Gota agree with you on that. Inzamam has captained a bunch of amateurs but he has transformed those amateurs into a hardworking, and team-committed bunch of cricketers.
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ya what is bangers?
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even though both are highly qualified and rated batsmen and skipper i think the more likely winner will be the big man inzy. his batting is simply superb and he has hold pakistan team in such a way that they improved from almost 0 to 10. pakistan were collapsing after world cup 1999 but after inzy captained the side, they improved a lot even though they had lots of youngser playing. but ricky was simply replacing one of the greatest captain of all time who helped to build a perfect team. even though it wasnot that easy for ponting i think it was much more difficult for inzy to captain a side and be successful
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Who is bangers???
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Post Options Post Options   Quote saadadvanced7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 February 2006 at 12:49am
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what's bangers doing in this list???


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yep dravid should be there definately. What's trescothick doing even though vaughan is captain?
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what's bangers doing in this list???
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Post Options Post Options   Quote abubakar52 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 February 2006 at 4:57pm
yea he is better than most of the guys in that list
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Post Options Post Options   Quote saadadvanced7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 February 2006 at 1:56pm
True!

Dravid has been in good form with the bat lately and should be there.
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y isnt dravido there
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Post Options Post Options   Quote abubakar52 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 February 2006 at 2:46am
I would say Ricky Ponting he is the best batting skipper at this point
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Post Options Post Options   Quote saadadvanced7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 February 2006 at 2:13am
There's sort of a close one between Inzamam and Ponting...but at the end I'd go with Inzamam...even though Ponting is slightly better (as a batsman skipper).
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