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    Posted: 28 May 2007 at 9:58pm
I reckon Paul Nixon is the best...anyone going to argue that one?
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Nope your spot on there samhache ;)
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Originally posted by samhache

I reckon Paul Nixon is the best...anyone going to argue that one?
 
I consider the man a legend after reverse sweeping Murali for 6.
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Originally posted by The Tyke

And the styles of bowling he's had to keep for is more vast than Sangakarra or Boucher (Who pretty much only has to deal with seam)
Who was keeping the guy called Muralitharan for this long?
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haha i think thats his only shot, him and mal loye love that sweep. Must be an english thing.
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The first player I ever saw use it was Craig McMillan some years back now. It has become quite an effective shot though I'm not a fan of it.

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Originally posted by bond2322

The first player I ever saw use it was Craig McMillan some years back now. It has become quite an effective shot though I'm not a fan of it.

I'll raise you Mushtaq Mohammed, Javed Miandad and Mike Gatting, but add there is nothing new under the sun and the shot has been around as long as the game has been played.


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When you win the toss - bat.
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in my mind, it is a stupid shot and involves high amounts of risk when it doesnt really need to be played. Its there to look fancy. Its a shame Mike gatting didn't use it against shane warne.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote W.G. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 2007 at 6:43am
Originally posted by samhache

in my mind, it is a stupid shot and involves high amounts of risk when it doesnt really need to be played. Its there to look fancy. Its a shame Mike gatting didn't use it against shane warne.
Gatting couldn't get it right against Border, what chance Warne?
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Originally posted by samhache

in my mind, it is a stupid shot and involves high amounts of risk when it doesnt really need to be played. Its there to look fancy. Its a shame Mike gatting didn't use it against shane warne.
 
Good call Sam!


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Good one Graham!
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most populer revers sweep was played by Mick Gatting in the world cup final against pakistha in 1992 at MCG i think....
here comes Anjelow Mathiws and Dhammika Prsad...
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It was in the final against Australia in 1987.  Try reading the posts above lad - it's all there.
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Originally posted by W.G.

Originally posted by samhache

in my mind, it is a stupid shot and involves high amounts of risk when it doesnt really need to be played. Its there to look fancy. Its a shame Mike gatting didn't use it against shane warne.
Gatting couldn't get it right against Border, what chance Warne?
 
exactly my point W.G.
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Originally posted by samhache

Originally posted by W.G.

Originally posted by samhache

in my mind, it is a stupid shot and involves high amounts of risk when it doesnt really need to be played. Its there to look fancy. Its a shame Mike gatting didn't use it against shane warne.
Gatting couldn't get it right against Border, what chance Warne?
 
exactly my point W.G.
 
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Originally posted by The Tyke

And the styles of bowling he's had to keep for is more vast than Sangakarra or Boucher (Who pretty much only has to deal with seam)
Who was keeping the guy called Muralitharan for this long?
 
Who has more variations, Murali or Shane Warne?
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Warne I believe !
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mmmm they both have very subtle variations in their bowling, but i believe warne was better. He has the ability to completley baffle an opposition all ends up, more so than murali.
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Leaving that aside, Warne has more variations.

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yeah he does, the flipper, the wrong un....the list goes on



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I would like to hear the list from you.Wink
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Originally posted by samhache

I reckon Paul Nixon is the best...anyone going to argue that one?
No,Shocked But we are tolking about wicket keeper batsmen hearLOLLOLLOL
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Leg Break
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Top Spin
Flipper
Slider
Bouncer
 
and that's just off the top of my head.
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MmmeWink!! Bouncer sums up it all.LOL



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Post Options Post Options   Quote samhache Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 2007 at 10:36pm
to tell the truth i didn't know them all so i didn't want to make a fool of myself Tongue thanks for bailing me out tyke!
 
Maxx - exactly, hes the best keeper/batsman uses his one shot to its maximum effectiveness!
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Leaving that aside, Warne has more variations.

Warne hs more types of balls. Like leggie, flipper, slider, zooter, and occasional wrong'un. Murali has only offie, top spinner and doosra. He has a varaiant of a slider, but that is basically a offie that keeps low after pitching, by making the shiny side of the ball to hit the turf. But these two have numerous changes of pace, flight and line when they are bowling. In that sense they are very close enough, and being a offy Murali will theoritically have more variations on the stock ball than Warne.
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Originally posted by MadMax

and being a offy Murali will theoritically have more variations on the stock ball than Warne.
Surely, by definition, if you vary your stock ball you are not bowling your stock ball.
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we can argue on this for so long, but for me, subtle changes to the stock ball is the stock ball. You can never ball two identical deliveries.
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So how much subtle variation are you allowed before you are bowling an entirely different delivery then?
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I said, we can argue endlessly. The areas are not clear cut. For example of spin can be with more side spin or over spin. Some might call it two varieties of off spinner and some will call it two variations of the off spinner
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And based on your atrgument, each delivery is a new type of delivery, because any one cannot bowl two identical deliveries.
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