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    Posted: 27 January 2006 at 8:49am

Dhoni's performance in second test against pakistan ,,, has reinforced the fact that ,,,he is the future best Batting-wicketkeeper...that too when shoaib was breathing fire and India was in such a pressure.

Single handedly he brought India to safety and that with a style.

Folks beleive me !!! you all will see Dhoni being much more usefull then What Gilchrist is to Australia.

For the moment ,, if Dhoni continues like this ,, then even Gilchrist or Sangakkara can't match him in batting.

The awsome flat six of Shoaib  and the hughest six of Kaneria was treat to watch ....oh-my-god that was really huge six.

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Yeah he may well be in the future - have to do it a bit more regularly before he can be compared to what Gilchrist used to be like.

At the moment the best wicketkeeper-batsman is Akmal anyway.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ANIL KUMBLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 January 2006 at 11:00am
currently there equal akmal and dhoni
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I dont think Akmal can be compared to Dhoni on any counts considering the batting abilities
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Dhoni's batting abilites are much much more superiour than AKmal's
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fair enough
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Post Options Post Options   Quote saadadvanced7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 January 2006 at 7:13pm
Dhoni needs to prove himself outside the subcontinent.

But I have to admit, he's in great form with the bat and looks like he's going to be a fine all-rounder (keeper-batsman).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ANIL KUMBLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 January 2006 at 4:49am

he will get to prove himself outside the sub-continent when they go to jamacia and play west indies and dont start saying that hes obviously going to make big scores because west indies are a crap team because india struggle in the west indies

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I'm not going to say anything about how he will perform in West Indies...I don't get to choose that...God does.

Anyway, we will see just how well he performs against a poor West Indies team. I will expect him to perform well against West Indies...they are a weak side.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote abubakar52 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 January 2006 at 12:49am
dhoni is a really good batsmen and in the west indies he will most likely also do good because his getting better every match
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We will see!
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Dhoni still can't be called the best keeper-batsman even if he performs well in West Indies...because he needs to improve his keeping.
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hes the best batsmen out of the keepers with akmal while sangakkara and gilly are the best keepers
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Originally posted by Clobber

Yeah he may well be in the future - have to do it a bit more regularly before he can be compared to what Gilchrist used to be like.

At the moment the best wicketkeeper-batsman is Akmal anyway.

I agree. Again putting a ton on board in first innings of third test, when Pakistan was in deep deep trouble. What a knot to bring the team out of misery. He is putting tons after tons with far better quality shots than Dhoni. I think he has greater talent with a great variety of quality shots and consistancy.

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And when we talk about wicket keeping, Dhoni is far far away in quality from Akmal. Sometimes he feel like crap while keeping. See he missed a huge stumping chance on first day of third test. In batting he is pretty handy and shows great fire works, although he lacks quality cricket shots.
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Originally posted by shan

Originally posted by Clobber

Yeah he may well be in the future - have to do it a bit more regularly before he can be compared to what Gilchrist used to be like.

At the moment the best wicketkeeper-batsman is Akmal anyway.

I agree. Again putting a ton on board in first innings of third test, when Pakistan was in deep deep trouble. What a knot to bring the team out of misery. He is putting tons after tons with far better quality shots than Dhoni. I think he has greater talent with a great variety of quality shots and consistancy.

Cut the crap

he was plumb on 49 or 59 ....

I agree he is a decent good player ,,, but he dosent come anywhere near dhoni in shot making ,,, not even till knee height of dhoni and

when comapered to Gilchrist ,,, not even toe height ..

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Originally posted by shan

And when we talk about wicket keeping, Dhoni is far far away in quality from Akmal. Sometimes he feel like crap while keeping. See he missed a huge stumping chance on first day of third test. In batting he is pretty handy and shows great fire works, although he lacks quality cricket shots.

how awfull was Akmals regualtion catch drop of Pathan ,,, chee chee

but Regarding dhoni ,, his keeping is good ,, but its very difficult to keep to the like of Bhajji and Kumble coz of their ackward bounce and pace variations

 

 

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krisdy is 100% right on that you should cut the crap

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Originally posted by krisdy

Originally posted by shan

And when we talk about wicket keeping, Dhoni is far far away in quality from Akmal. Sometimes he feel like crap while keeping. See he missed a huge stumping chance on first day of third test. In batting he is pretty handy and shows great fire works, although he lacks quality cricket shots.


how awfull was Akmals regualtion catch drop of Pathan ,,, chee chee


but Regarding dhoni ,, his keeping is good ,, but its very difficult to keep to the like of Bhajji and Kumble coz of their ackward bounce and pace variations


 


 



Excuses!

You know very well that Akmal is miles ahead of Dhoni in keeping. Akmal is an outstanding keeper.
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Originally posted by Clobber

Yeah he may well be in the future - have to do it a bit more regularly before he can be compared to what Gilchrist used to be like.At the moment the best wicketkeeper-batsman is Akmal anyway.


I agree. Again putting a ton on board in first innings of third test, when Pakistan was in deep deep trouble. What a knot to bring the team out of misery. He is putting tons after tons with far better quality shots than Dhoni. I think he has greater talent with a great variety of quality shots and consistancy.



Cut the crap


he was plumb on 49 or 59 ....


I agree he is a decent good player ,,, but he dosent come anywhere near dhoni in shot making ,,, not even till knee height of dhoni and


when comapered to Gilchrist ,,, not even toe height ..



I stayed up all night to watch Day 1 of the third test and there was no time when Akmal was plumb out. Dhoni, that lazy no good keeper, missed an easy stumping when Akmal was on 80.

What a fine display of keeping by Dhoni. The ball was coming straight into his hands and he dropped it and missed an easy, easy, stumping.
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doenot everyone makes mistalke saad?? i think it is not right to critisize a player in that fashion.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote abubakar52 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 January 2006 at 12:38am
akmal and dhoni are very good but this was about best wicket keeper batsmen in which i think they both are equal akmal has made his share of mistakes and amazing 100s and so has dhoni soo i dont think u can compare them
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Originally posted by prayas

doenot everyone makes mistalke saad?? i think it is not right to critisize a player in that fashion.


Ok, you're right, everyone does make mistakes, but is it not true that Akmal is a much, and I mean a MUCH better keeper than Dhoni? That's a fact and no one can argue that.

Akmal's batting technique is also better than Dhoni's and that leads me to conclude that Akmal is a better keeper-batsman than Dhoni.
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I think we need to wait and see how they both perform outside of the subcontinent. From a neutral point of view, right now I'd have Akmal in my team as he seems to be a safer pair of hands and a more reliable bat. That's not to say Dhoni is useless, but he seems to me to hit one big innings then have a quiet game or two but Akmal is developing into a keeper who'd nearly make the team as a batsman.
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Yea, his batting has been outstanding in the past 12 months. He has 7 International centuries in the past 12 months. And in his last 4 matches, he has hit 3 centuries. In this form, he would certainly make the team as a batsman.
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who has been keeping for their team for longer time?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote saadadvanced7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 January 2006 at 1:16am
Well, I have checked on cricinfo. And the results are that Akmal has been playing for just above 3 years (in both forms of the game) and Dhoni has been in ODIs for just above a year and in tests for only a month.
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Originally posted by abubakar52

ooo i see

thats what I am saying guys ,,, Akmal has been keeping for almost 3 years ,, and just now he is comming in limelight.

Thats not the case with Dhoni ,, coz right from the word go ,,, he has become a batting sensation ,,,,so his every blooper in wicketkeeping or every failure in batting is criticised as ,,,,, his time is gone.

Come on guys ,,, the lad has just come ,,,one year in ODI's and hardly 2nd month in Tests ,,, and already he has made such a huge impact and is being debated so so hot in these forums.

That is something to look out for.

Okie to all those who are at AWE with Indian revelation DHONI

Point 1: Every keeper improves after comming to International areana , coz they get more responsibility and face quality bowlers

Point 2: Technique of Dhoni is much much better ,, there is no problem with is technique ,,, Akmal is a technically sound player with limited abilites in batting, but he makes good use of it ,,,, but Dhoni is a gifted player like gilchrist .

Tell me who can whack Shoaib's bouncer for a flat six like he did at the second test

hey saad ,, listen to what Geffory boycott told about Dhoni

"the young lad plays with straight bat and has got lot of talent and temperment"

Geffory went on further to say that if he can play the same way in English/NZ/Aust pitches then he rates him better than Gilchrist.

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