Best ever ODI player?

It does mate because that means the opposition failed to bowl him out and Freddy has a fantastic bowling average in ODI's adn lets face it Lance Klusener is not a good bowler. He can bat better than Freddy but Freddy beats him overall. Klusener had one good tournament and before and since hasn't showed that sort of form.

Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy Best ever ODI Player: Batsmen - A toss up between Bevan and Tendulkar. Fast Bowler - Wasim Akram Spin Bowler - Saqlain Mushtaq Keeper/Batsmen - Gilchrist Fielders - A toss up between Rhodes and Ponting All-rounder - Lance Klusener

Dont u think Kallis is better then Klusner.think abt it

Agreed on that note Wal...

Jayasuria's bowling is underrated in pajama cricket, the amount of wickets is testament that, especially when many only think of him as a bits n peices bowler!

Originally posted by mAni_paKi Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy Best ever ODI Player: Batsmen - A toss up between Bevan and Tendulkar. Fast Bowler - Wasim Akram Spin Bowler - Saqlain Mushtaq Keeper/Batsmen - Gilchrist Fielders - A toss up between Rhodes and Ponting All-rounder - Lance Klusener Dont u think Kallis is better then Klusner.think abt it

Who the hell on Earth would put Bevan as the best Ever ODI batsman? Only a fool (not insulting you MiNiWaRnEy). But why would you do such a thing. Where on Earth do you get such ideas from. It's either Tendulkar or Viv Richards.

Greatest ODI all-rounder of all time would have to be Jacques Kallis & Lance Klusener,greatest ODI Batsman would have to be Sachin Tendulkar,greatest Keeper would have to be either Adam Gilchrist & Andy Flower but in 10 years time it will be Dhoni.

Great ODI spinner of all time would be Saqlain Mushtaq & Muttaih Muralitharan also Anil Kumble.Great ODI paceman of all time would quite easily be Wasim Akram.

Finally greatest ODI all-round (includes fielding,bowling & batting) player Sanath Jayasuriya & Sachin Tendulkar.I think there the two greats of this version of the game.

Originally posted by Wal Bada Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy Best ever ODI Player: Batsmen - A toss up between Bevan and Tendulkar. Fast Bowler - Wasim Akram Spin Bowler - Saqlain Mushtaq Keeper/Batsmen - Gilchrist Fielders - A toss up between Rhodes and Ponting All-rounder - Lance Klusener Best batsman - I thought it would be between Viv and Tendulkar Best Wicket keeper Batsamn - ANDY FLOWER - pity that he was not in a stronger team, then he would have definietly beaten Gilly with stats. All rounder - No one even mentions Jayasuriya. Only person to score 10000 and to take 290+ wickets

Not Andy Flower, not in ODIs and Jaya statistically is the best.. But I am thinking of quality... Anyone can bowl like Jaya, he is effective, but he is not a high class bowler.

Originally posted by Wal Bada The quality called longevity also should be in the equation

I agree, but I do not rate him as a bowler, nobody in the world fears him... like I said effective, but as a quality allround I could name 10 better (i.e. Dev, Botham, Hadlee, Kallis, Waugh, Flintoff, Klusener, Pollock, Wasim Akram, Imran Khan)

Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy Originally posted by DRAVID FAN Originally posted by mAni_paKi Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy Best ever ODI Player: Batsmen - A toss up between Bevan and Tendulkar. Fast Bowler - Wasim Akram Spin Bowler - Saqlain Mushtaq Keeper/Batsmen - Gilchrist Fielders - A toss up between Rhodes and Ponting All-rounder - Lance Klusener Dont u think Kallis is better then Klusner.think abt it Who the hell on Earth would put Bevan as the best Ever ODI batsman? Only a fool (not insulting you MiNiWaRnEy). But why would you do such a thing. Where on Earth do you get such ideas from. It's either Tendulkar or Viv Richards. AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA Where the hell were you in the 1990's??? You are a fool and many of your comments on this forum are totally ignorant

I agree with Miniwarney, Bevan was a fantastic batsman, I didn't realise how good he was till I looked at his stats on cricinfo, look there Dravid and youll see why miniwarney and i rate him so highly plus his bowling was far more dangerous than Jayasuriya.

Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy Originally posted by Wal Bada The quality called longevity also should be in the equation I agree, but I do not rate him as a bowler, nobody in the world fears him... like I said effective, but as a quality allround I could name 10 better (i.e. Dev, Botham, Hadlee, Kallis, Waugh, Flintoff, Klusener, Pollock, Wasim Akram, Imran Khan)

That is the very fact that he became such an effective bowler. All oppositions just underrated his bowling, and Bingo! he gets the best of the opposition players!

All above players are quality. but Jayasuriya has won more matches than all the above players. And he'll walk in to any ODI team in the world with his batting, bowling, fielding and cunning cricket brain.  And unlike some of the above named he has a clean charachter certificate as well, which is also a contributory factor for a players greatness.

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Originally posted by 70_degree_spin his bowling was far more dangerous than Jayasuriya.

Bevan was just a crap-bag with the ball. usually short, and on slow tracks was fodder for batsmen.

He is a good batsman, brilliant fielder until he injured his shoulder, and a great finisher. But he never ever possessed the aura of Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar, Sanath Jayasuriya or Wasim Akram used to have around them. He never instilled fear to the opposition as above players, who coud tear apart attacks or batting line ups on their own

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Ok here are stats for you. Jayasuriya vs Bevan in Bowling

BEVAN
Tests      M-18, Balls-1285, runs-703, wkts-29 BBi-6/82, BBm-10/113, Avg-24.24, ER-3.28, SR-44.31
ODIs      M-232, Balls-1966, Runs-1655, Wkts-36, BB-3/36, Avg-45.97, ER-5.05, SR-54.61

JAYASURIYA
Tests      M-105, Balls-7966, Runs-3271, Wkts-96, BBi-5/34, BBm-9/74, Avg-34.07, ER-2.46, SR-82.97     
ODIs      M-364, Balls-12822, Runs-10238, Wkts-278, BB-6/29, Avg-36.82, ER-4.79, SR-46.12

In ODIs Jayasuriya is miles ahead of Bevan. If you reduce that match against WI at Perth, Bevan's test bowling also looks like utter crap. He has bowled too few balls in test cricket to comment on Avg and SR

Bevan ,jayasuriya ,Sachin are all odi greats so is Murali because of differen reasons .Cant see why Zulu's name is there ?

This thread proves that it's becoming a batsman's game. The question was who is the best ever ODI player. Many of you'll have voted for players who bowl occasionally.

iS Zulu the nick of Klusener.