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meninblue
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Topic: Best ever ODI player?Posted: 21 September 2006 at 7:36pm |
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Its Michael Bevan for me... Such a great finisher and the most
important thing - he comes good when the side needs him - under
pressure... Some of the greatest players that are mentioned on this
poll have crumbled under pressure... They might have tons of runs and
wickets, but important is - do they get them when the side needs it the
most??
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Zaheer is the best... Sourav will be back... Irfan rocks!!
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mAni_paKi
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Posted: 21 September 2006 at 6:07pm |
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O c'mon,Best example at this stage is Brain Charles Lara.Hes been playing for a long time and u know that Wi is been in the doom For a long time and he is still performing very well even better then those players who are Stars and also playing in one of Best teams. |
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Posted: 21 September 2006 at 9:19am |
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Stop it lad , you're just showing yourself up. Viv Richards was one of the most breathtaking batsmen the world has ever seen and if he'd played for Zimbabwe he'd still be brilliant! Opinions are okay if you have something to base it on - my guess is that you weren't born when Viv retired. |
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cheech
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Posted: 21 September 2006 at 9:12am |
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oh, not to mention he is very honest, and believes to keep cricket as honest and true as it can be. i remember in a world cup match against sri lanka, he walks, even though he wasnt given out by the umpire. He had cleary hit to ball onto his pad, where it popped up to aravinda de silva (i think).
Very funny, i remember australia being in a bit of strike before symonds and martyn saves the batting Very funny. |
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cheech
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Posted: 21 September 2006 at 9:09am |
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well adam gilchrist is still my best cricketer. His batting, perfect, big hitting, nice hard hitting. Hes a wicketkeeper, and a good one too, so that takes care of bowling and fielding, captaincy, he captained a few matches when ricky ponting had a break, especially during the 2003 world cup. He seems pretty sane, and is in the best position for giving bowlers advice, so yeah, hed do well. He also chips in a bit to give the fielders some chatter and atmosphere, ("cmon lads, cmon"). Off field behaviour is great. hes won an allan border medal or 2 i think, hes never been in the headlines for anything bad, and has a child (maybe 2 now). Happily married, not any shane warne dodgeem stuff. Hes perfect, everyone looks up to him, especially his batting. |
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 20 September 2006 at 9:14pm |
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It was literally the flukiest batting ever and it wasnt in a one day
game so is completely inappropriate. Tendulkar has actually taken 142
ODI wickets so I think this puts the case to a close.
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mAni_paKi
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Posted: 20 September 2006 at 9:09pm |
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Tendulkar has also played more matches then Wasim.Altugh Wasims 257 was great.
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 20 September 2006 at 8:52pm |
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Tendulkars hit 40 centuries and averages 45 so its actually very close,
plus Wasim played well over 300 matches to get those 500 wickets.
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mAni_paKi
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Posted: 20 September 2006 at 4:41pm |
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well u guyz talking abt Best ODi player so No doubt abt Wasim bcz he's a pinch Hitter and the Only Bwoler to take 500 wikks in ODi's.
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 19 September 2006 at 10:32pm |
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Listen Clobber, I don't know what your problem is with me but maybe we should sort it out, you can't just say thats absolute rubbish, especially when it's true. Viv Richards could afford to attack the bowlers when the opposite team had been bowled out for 200. He batted in a carefree way which you can only do in a good team. It's exactly the same with Lara, recently has struggled because he's been under a lot of pressure. |
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Wal Bada
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Posted: 19 September 2006 at 5:48pm |
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PS:Please use proper English. This is not a chat room. Please see the posts of others and get an idea Edited by Wal Bada |
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Posted: 19 September 2006 at 3:56pm |
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Man you aint got Rahul Dravid in there his the best batsman but the best err id say Sachin coz he can ball to Edited by Rudurk |
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Wal Bada
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Posted: 09 September 2006 at 3:59pm |
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Then what about roles that are not reagrded as respective? Fielding, Bowling, Batting, Captaincy, Discipline, Off field behavior,impression on world cricket? |
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Posted: 09 September 2006 at 3:54pm |
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Its difficult to seperate the two, both have been devastating in their respective roles in cricket and achieved great things. |
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Wal Bada
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Posted: 09 September 2006 at 3:48pm |
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Best player?? |
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inzamam329
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Posted: 09 September 2006 at 3:18pm |
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Best Batsman= Sachin Best Bowler= Wasim no doubt about it both have records and players who played with and against them who would vouch for their genius espclly in this form of the game. Edited by inzamam329 |
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Wal Bada
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Posted: 09 September 2006 at 3:11pm |
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This is not only about batting mate, about the whole package. Batting, bowling, fielding/keeping, captaicy, off field behavior are they trens setters etc. |
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cheech
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Posted: 09 September 2006 at 12:37pm |
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OF COURSE!!! ADAM GILCHRIST!!!
well it would be him when he was in top form, around 2002. He would score a quickfire 50 in 40 balls! with matt hayden playing calm, and rotating strike, with their fast running between wickets, thats like 70 in first 10 overs! ive seen more!!! adam gilchrist always gives australia a nice head start in the first 0-15 overs in any ODI! he hits hard, doesnt hesitate, and doesnt need width. His defensive shot is a full blooded on drive FGS!!! it goes to boundary in less than 3 secs!!! WOW! EDIT: Spelling Edited by cheech |
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 09 September 2006 at 1:21am |
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Yup Bradman made 300 in one day and even Sehwag couldn't do that. Ofcoarse there is that fact that Tests in those days were 120 overs, but still how many players make 280 within 90 overs. Very few. Inzi doesn't, Dravid doesn't, so Bradman was very quick for his days. And average does say a lot about a batsman. If a batsman has a healthy average then you know that he can go out and always make a big score. Plus how many players have even reached an average of 70. Bradman reaches99,so that does tell a lot about him. |
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Posted: 06 September 2006 at 11:49pm |
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Sachin Tendulkar. I chose sachin because he has sheer class. His records are superb. When you see a guy who has played more than 362 matches and has an average of 44.21 with 14146 runs, 39 centuries ( may take batsman a lifetime to reach this milestone) and 72 fifties, we all know these are unbelievable stats and he deserves a
Separate chart. These stats are very hard to achieve and I don't think their is any batsman that will bypass these records in the future. |
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Posted: 06 September 2006 at 11:17pm |
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absolute rubbish
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 06 September 2006 at 9:19pm |
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And another thing, Viv Richards always played in the best team in the
world. If he had been in a struggling team he wouldn't have been
anywhere near as good in my opinion. Just look at Brian Lara. Struggled
in recent times with a poor team.
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 06 September 2006 at 9:16pm |
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Wrong, he was quick for his time. I'd just like to make a comparison
here. Don Bradman scored his 334 in 448 balls. Len Hutton scored his
364 in 847 balls. Quick for his time but his strike rates would never
have been considered amazing in todays terms.By the way, I chose
Tendulkar because he has made more centuries than anyone else by miles.
I would have considered picking Saqlain Mushtaq if he was there because
he only let 21 runs go for every wicket. Very good indeed.
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Wal Bada
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Posted: 06 September 2006 at 5:38pm |
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Buddy, Bradman was a furiously fast scorer in his generation. he may not do a Gilchrist, Sehwag, Afridi or a Jayasuriya, but believe me, he is very quick to score his runs |
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Posted: 06 September 2006 at 2:48pm |
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average isn't everything i reckon its more aggreate and strike rate.. whats the point of staying out there for 3 and a half days to make a big score and then not be able to bowl out a side.. im not saying bradman did but just an opinion |
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DRAVID FAN
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Posted: 25 August 2006 at 4:52pm |
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What Billy O' Reilly did was horrible. I read that article. If it wasn't for that and maybe evn Bodyline then he would have had an average of 150 when he retired.
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Posted: 25 August 2006 at 2:58pm |
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i remember Nasser Hussain's England doing the same to Sachin in india, sachin had a heated exchange with hussian about his bodyline-negative tactics to him!
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Posted: 25 August 2006 at 2:58pm |
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Probably isn't much of it left to hang
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Posted: 25 August 2006 at 2:56pm |
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What he did that,he told the english how to ruin Bradmans average of 100! Bill O'Reilly -_- hang your head in shame might.
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Posted: 25 August 2006 at 2:40pm |
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No he is relating the story that was on Cricinfo the other day where O'Reilly mentioned to a few England players how he would bowl at Bradman, and they duly took his advice and dismissed the Don for a series of low scores.
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