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Poll Question: Who is the best ever ODI player?
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29 [31.87%]
11 [12.09%]
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    Posted: 06 September 2006 at 9:16pm
Wrong, he was quick for his time. I'd just like to make a comparison here. Don Bradman scored his 334 in 448 balls. Len Hutton scored his 364 in 847 balls. Quick for his time but his strike rates would never have been considered amazing in todays terms.By the way, I chose Tendulkar because he has made more centuries than anyone else by miles. I would have considered picking Saqlain Mushtaq if he was there because he only let 21 runs go for every wicket. Very good indeed.
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And another thing, Viv Richards always played in the best team in the world. If he had been in a struggling team he wouldn't have been anywhere near as good in my opinion. Just look at Brian Lara. Struggled in recent times with a poor team.
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Sachin Tendulkar. I chose sachin because he has sheer class. His records are superb. When you see a guy who has played more than 362 matches and has an average of 44.21 with 14146 runs, 39 centuries ( may take batsman a lifetime to reach this milestone) and 72 fifties, we all know these are unbelievable stats and he deserves a

Separate chart. These stats are very hard to achieve and I don't think their is any batsman that will bypass these records in the future.
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average isn't everything i reckon its more aggreate and strike rate.. whats the point of staying out there for 3 and a half days to make a big score and then not be able to bowl out a side.. im not saying bradman did but just an opinion



Buddy, Bradman was a furiously fast scorer in his generation. he may not do a Gilchrist, Sehwag, Afridi or a Jayasuriya, but believe me, he is very quick to score his runs


Yup Bradman made 300 in one day and even Sehwag couldn't do that. Ofcoarse there is that fact that Tests in those days were 120 overs, but still how many players make 280 within 90 overs. Very few. Inzi doesn't, Dravid doesn't, so Bradman was very quick for his days. And average does say a lot about a batsman. If a batsman has a healthy average then you know that he can go out and always make a big score. Plus how many players have even reached an average of 70. Bradman reaches99,so that does tell a lot about him.
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OF COURSE!!! ADAM GILCHRIST!!!

well it would be him when he was in top form, around 2002.

He would score a quickfire 50 in 40 balls! with matt hayden playing calm, and rotating strike, with their fast running between wickets, thats like 70 in first 10 overs! ive seen more!!!

adam gilchrist always gives australia a nice head start in the first 0-15 overs in any ODI! he hits hard, doesnt hesitate, and doesnt need width. His defensive shot is a full blooded on drive FGS!!! it goes to boundary in less than 3 secs!!! WOW!

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OF COURSE!!! ADAM GILCHRIST!!!well it would be him when he was in top form, around 2002.He would score a quickfire 50 in 40 balls! with matt hayden playing calm, and rotating strike, with their fast running between wickets, thats like 70 in first 10 overs! ive seen more!!!adam gilchrist always gives australia a nice head start in the first 0-15 overs in any ODI! he hits hard, doesnt hesitate, and doesnt need width. His defensive shot is a full blooded on drive FGS!!! it goes to boundary in less than 3 secs!!! WOW!EDIT: Spelling


This is not only about batting mate, about the whole package. Batting, bowling, fielding/keeping, captaicy, off field behavior are they trens setters etc.
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Best Batsman= Sachin

Best Bowler= Wasim no doubt about it both have records and players who played with and against them who would vouch for their genius espclly in this form of the game.



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Best Batsman= Sachin


Best Bowler= Wasim no doubt about it both have records and players who played with and against them who would vouch for their genius espclly in this form of the game.



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Its difficult to seperate the two, both have been devastating in their respective roles in cricket and achieved great things.
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Originally posted by inzamam329

Its difficult to seperate the two, both have been devastating in their respective roles in cricket and achieved great things.



Then what about roles that are not reagrded as respective?

Fielding, Bowling, Batting, Captaincy, Discipline, Off field behavior,impression on world cricket?
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Man you aint got Rahul Dravid in there his the best batsman

but the best err id say Sachin coz he can ball to



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Man you aint got Rahul Dravid in there his the best batsman
but the best err id say Sachin coz he can ball to
See the heading mate. This is for best ever player. Not batsman. All aspects of the game ha s to be considered

PS:Please use proper English. This is not a chat room. Please see the posts of others and get an idea

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absolute rubbish


Listen Clobber, I don't know what your problem is with me but maybe we should sort it out, you can't just say thats absolute rubbish, especially when it's true. Viv Richards could afford to attack the bowlers when the opposite team had been bowled out for 200. He batted in a carefree way which you can only do in a good team. It's exactly the same with Lara, recently has struggled because he's been under a lot of pressure.
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well u guyz talking abt Best ODi player so No doubt abt Wasim bcz he's a pinch Hitter and the Only Bwoler to take 500 wikks in ODi's.
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Tendulkars hit 40 centuries and averages 45 so its actually very close, plus Wasim played well over 300 matches to get those 500 wickets.
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Tendulkar has also played more matches then Wasim.Altugh Wasims 257 was great.
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It was literally the flukiest batting ever and it wasnt in a one day game so is completely inappropriate. Tendulkar has actually taken 142 ODI wickets so I think this puts the case to a close.
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This is not only about batting mate, about the whole package. Batting, bowling, fielding/keeping, captaicy, off field behavior are they trens setters etc.


well adam gilchrist is still my best cricketer. His batting, perfect, big hitting, nice hard hitting. Hes a wicketkeeper, and a good one too, so that takes care of bowling and fielding, captaincy, he captained a few matches when ricky ponting had a break, especially during the 2003 world cup. He seems pretty sane, and is in the best position for giving bowlers advice, so yeah, hed do well. He also chips in a bit to give the fielders some chatter and atmosphere, ("cmon lads, cmon").

Off field behaviour is great. hes won an allan border medal or 2 i think, hes never been in the headlines for anything bad, and has a child (maybe 2 now). Happily married, not any shane warne dodgeem stuff.

Hes perfect, everyone looks up to him, especially his batting.
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oh, not to mention he is very honest, and believes to keep cricket as honest and true as it can be. i remember in a world cup match against sri lanka, he walks, even though he wasnt given out by the umpire. He had cleary hit to ball onto his pad, where it popped up to aravinda de silva (i think).

Very funny, i remember australia being in a bit of strike before symonds and martyn saves the batting Very funny.
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And another thing, Viv Richards always played in the best team in the world. If he had been in a struggling team he wouldn't have been
anywhere near as good in my opinion.


Stop it lad , you're just showing yourself up. Viv Richards was one of the most breathtaking batsmen the world has ever seen and if he'd played for Zimbabwe he'd still be brilliant!

Opinions are okay if you have something to base it on - my guess is that you weren't born when Viv retired.

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Originally posted by 70_degree_spin

And another thing, Viv Richards always played in the best team in the world. If he had been in a struggling team he wouldn't have been anywhere near as good in my opinion. Just look at Brian Lara. Struggled in recent times with a poor team.

O c'mon,Best example at this stage is Brain Charles Lara.Hes been playing for a long time and u know that Wi is been in the doom For a long time and he is still performing very well even better then those players who are Stars and also playing in one of Best teams.
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Its Michael Bevan for me... Such a great finisher and the most important thing - he comes good when the side needs him - under pressure... Some of the greatest players that are mentioned on this poll have crumbled under pressure... They might have tons of runs and wickets, but important is - do they get them when the side needs it the most?? 

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Lara is terrible compared to 10 years ago, he averaged something like 70 then, and that was with all the great bowlers.
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Sledger, he always did well when West Indies were coasting, look up cricinfo and look at his big scores, almost all of them were when the opposition had benn bowled out cheaply.
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70 spin, lara has been in poor form lately but lara still amde some ton with a poor windies side like in the beginner of WC 2003. Viv richards is regarded as the best ODI batsman ever because of his attacking style and managed to average 47 which ain't no easy feat to accieve.

Wasim akram is my go for ODI bowler, a handy lower order batter as well but still, its Viv all the way for me.
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Originally posted by 70_degree_spin

Sledger, he always did well when West Indies were coasting, look up cricinfo and look at his big scores, almost all of them were when the opposition had benn bowled out cheaply.


how could have have gotten a big score if the opposition had been bowled out cheaply?
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I mean if after the 1st innings, the opposition had been bowled out for 200 and West Indies could bat more freely. I dont understand what you're asking?
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okay, not to worry.

I suggest you find a thread on the forum about the greatest one day innings ever, in which I go into detail about his 189* against England in 1984 - which was far for someone creaming it in while the going was easy. Or there was the 100 in the World Cup Final of 1979, that was pretty good too.
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I thought someone would mention that, I admit that was fantastic. I amn't saying Viv  is a bad cricketer, I'm just saying he might not have hit quite so many centuries had he played for Pakistan or someone like that. Dont get me wrong, he is a true great and he's in my best XI in the bestXI thread.
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