Best ever ODI player?

Originally posted by spin wizard I am sure that the bowlers wont be answered either cause take this forum for example, there are some that says warne is better and others that says murali is better. Fielder might be able to be answered; From what I have seen, Rhodes was the best by a mile. Truly an awesome fielder!

That's why I included both of them. No point in arguing who has better performance. They are of their own class where no one can join them at the moment.

I don't think Rhodes wa miles ahead. Ponting is close, So is Keith Arthurton. Roshan Mahanama is probably a better out fielder than Rhodes. Herscelle Gibbs was regarded as best in SAF, when Rhodes was regarded as best in the world. Derek Crookes, TM Dilshan, Symonds are also close. Symonds may not move as quick as Rhodes, but complements it wih his throw. David Boon, Mark Taylor, Mark Waug, Hashan Tillakaratne are definietly better close-in fielders than Rhodes. (I can't remember the names if all those Indian short leg fielders who were brilliant)

So, Rhodes was the best all round fielder, but there wer better ones in specialized positions. In my opinion, Jonty was not miles ahead, but just ahead of the well known fielding greats of modern era

surely Sachin tendulkar.

average 44, 73 half centuries and 40 centuries. Strike rate of 86 for a man who played 368 match and the only man on earth with14000 runs.

These are a hell of hard targets for batsman these days and for those to come in the future and targets that some batsman don't even think about achieving in their entire career.

when we see these stats, if you are a bias kid or not you will know he is the greatest batsman alive on earth.

Jonty Rhodes never feilded in the slips as Mark Waugh did. Never looked as cool as Mark Waugh did, and could not throw as Mark Waugh did from the boundary.

 

As far as Tendulker goes he might not be the best going round at the minute but he has to be the best playing presently. Lara, Ponting, Dravid are the next best but a long way behind him. Sachin cannot compare to the man known solely as VIV. He intimidated the bowler more than any man ever has including Bradman with his sheer presence.

Originally posted by BOBBI Sachin cannot compare to the man known solely as VIV. He intimidated the bowler more than any man ever

Pssst! Don't tell that to Chandrashekar and Abdul Qadir! THEY intimidated great VIV for a change! Viv never scored a test century when Chandra was playing mate!!! So was his grip on Viv's batting, virtually Chandra's presence made him vulnerable to the spin battery of Indians.

And how about Jayasuriya for Intimidating bowlers for that matter? and Murali for batters?
I pesonaly feel Viv will be a lesser batsman if Murali and Warne were plaing in that era with Wasim and Waqar reverse swiging it as well.

Edited by Wal Bada

it should be Wasim Akram,a great leader,great swing bowler ever produced and also left handed also good in batting down the order.

Originally posted by Wal Bada BOBBI wrote: Sachin cannot compare to the man known solely as VIV. He intimidated the bowler more than any man ever Pssst! Don't tell that to Chandrashekar and Abdul Qadir! THEY intimidated great VIV for a change! Viv never scored a test century when Chandra was playing mate!!! So was his grip on Viv's batting, virtually Chandra's presence made him vulnerable to the spin battery of Indians. And how about Jayasuriya for Intimidating bowlers for that matter? and Murali for batters? I pesonaly feel Viv will be a lesser batsman if Murali and Warne were plaing in that era with Wasim and Waqar reverse swiging it as well.

Thats a no pointer there Wal. For some strange reason it seems to me that you hate sir Viv. There are many greats that has been bamboozled by spinners. If there was none there would have been no need for Murali and Warne today. It should be fair for me to say now that if Bradman was around and especially batsmen like lara, Murali would have never had that wicked record. If that fearsome 4 prong Windies attack was around Jayasuriya might have not been around.

Yes, Jayasuriya have an effect on bowlers as well but VIV will always be remembered as a better batsman by miles than him cause of the fact that he performed better with a breath taking average of 47 compared to Jayasuriya meager average of 32. 

My point is that a legend in one era would always be a legend in another era. If you base it on what they do all round then hats off to Imran Khan then. A wicked seamer and good enough with the bat in ODI's too and a very inspirational captain.

Hmmmmmmmmmm , Wal Bada needs to understand that there's one or two people on this forum who know a lot more about the game than he does !!

Talking bull opens oneself up to allsorts of repostes - yours was blunt Clobs and rather splendid.

Originally posted by Sledger Hmmmmmmmmmm , Wal Bada needs to understand that there's one or two people on this forum who know a lot more about the game than he does !! Talking bull opens oneself up to allsorts of repostes - yours was blunt Clobs and rather splendid.

And Wal Bada does admit when he's wrong. Not like one or two headstrongs in the forum who always think that they are right

good one

Thats like me saying Kevin Pietersen.

Its between Wasim and Tendulkar I think although I was watching pioneers of cricket on sky sports today and found out that Waqar got the most five fors in ODI history so he has to be up there as well.

So ill go for Wasim,no matter Waqar was better thrn hiim i think but PAk cric politivs supports Wasim and he took more wikks then him.other then that i beleive Waqar could have take more wikks then wasim.

There have been plenty who are probably better but for a X Factor no-one else could bring, I would choose the Zulu first and let you choose the next 12 for your side. You could not pick a side better so long as I had Klusnear.

Votes are a waste of time mate so don't take them serious!

I liked BOBBI's comments about Klusener. He was indeed a breath taking player. A fine striker of the cricket ball and lanched the ball fiercely. The 1999 world cup is one that he will never forget at all in his life! He was a great player for SA and its beats me why he was dropped when his career wasn't even over!!!

Klusener was scary with his bald head and piercing eyes!

How can Smith drop a person on his own.. Did anyone else support him?