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Clobber 
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 Topic: Best innings.Posted: 18 December 2006 at 6:31pm |
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it was far too meaningless to be considered one of cricket's great innings
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minimurali
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Posted: 18 December 2006 at 8:56pm |
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I think there are many factors surrounding what can be classed as a "great" innings: Pressure - it's obviously much harder to post a century being a tourist at one of the world's biggest grounds than getting one at your home ground in front of a few hundred.
Percentage of team's runs - A good innings is an innings in which a player scores 100 out of 500 of his team's total runs; a brilliant innings is an innings in which a player scores 100 out of 200 of his team's total runs.
Bowling attack faced - It's a better innings against an attack of McGrath, Lee, Warne, Clark and Gillespie rather than some second string county side.
Importance of innings - Linking with pressure, again it's a better achievement to post a century when you need 500 runs in a day to tie the series rather than a century in 3 days in a dead rubber.
Batting track - Getting a big score on a flat track isn't that special ( see Brian lara's 501*), but if you're accumulating on an uneven, grassy/crumbling pitch that is heaven for bowlers - then there's your fantastic innngs.
Maybe this will influence other people's decisions as to which innings they believe to be one of the greatest ever.
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daisy77
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Posted: 18 December 2006 at 9:17pm |
Oh thanks for telling me about that match Spin.
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daisy77
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Posted: 18 December 2006 at 9:27pm |
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I like your style minimurali. You make a statement and then you have your points properly laid out to back it up.
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minimurali
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Posted: 18 December 2006 at 9:29pm |
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Thanks daisy.
I think most people don't really think about those kind of situations - but in reality they're the most important factors that decide just how good an inning is.
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daisy77
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Posted: 18 December 2006 at 9:34pm |
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Yes...I did not see that 501 but it must have been filled with classy shots so no doubt it was a great innings. |
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minimurali
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Posted: 18 December 2006 at 9:39pm |
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Yeah it was...but if you consider there was no pressure, the bowling was poor, it was a flat track and there was no importance to it, it seems average in comparison to a few others mentioned here.
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minimurali
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Posted: 18 December 2006 at 9:39pm |
There's a perfect example.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 19 December 2006 at 12:27am |
Get a life mate! Lara is a poor player and has beaten Warne like no other batter has done. So what would you say now, Warne is a poor bowler! This is one of the most stupid post I have seen on cricket world!
 Not because Ponting said it was a selfish innings and your an Australian mean you have to agree with him! Start using your own brain lad!
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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shan
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Posted: 19 December 2006 at 11:37am |
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Eddyc_solid, are you suggestin that faster the runs are made, the better is the innings? You must be talking about backyard cricket man! If Lara is a poor player then we might not left with enough non-poor players to complete our all time world eleven.
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eddyc_solid
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Posted: 19 December 2006 at 2:50pm |
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lol knew that "lara is very poor"comment would stir you up.but you have to say he is poor compared to what he used to be,he just dosnt perform especially in ODI consistently enough.
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minimurali
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Posted: 19 December 2006 at 2:52pm |
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He used to be absolutely brilliant, maybe's he's being beaten a bit more easily than he used to - but every batsmen goes through that. Still a legend of his time though.
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daisy77
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Posted: 19 December 2006 at 11:11pm |
I agree with you Spin. Hopefully he took what you said to heart and does not make anymore of those non-sense type statements again. It's such a silly statement especially since Lara made 400* and not 401* as he put it. LOL. He does not even seem to know how much Lara actually made so why bother to waste time arguing with someone like that!
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minimurali
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Posted: 19 December 2006 at 11:12pm |
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I'm with you both all the way on that one.
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daisy77
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Posted: 19 December 2006 at 11:28pm |
Are you a joker or something??? I mean to make a senseless statement like that just because you want to "stir us up" as you put it is not very wise. At least I don't think so. Oh and by the way Lara made 400* NOT 401*.....It's true he has not been performing like the Lara we love in odis but that does not mean he is a poor player. It seems as though just because he is not playing good you have forgotten all of his good innings. Anyway take into consideration the man is getting old.
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BackFoot Master
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Posted: 20 December 2006 at 1:35am |
Kiddo, how much days have you been DRUNK for now.
If lara is a poor player then this sport called Cricket has a bunch of jokers playing cricket. Whats you problem mate? you need a life line.
His innings was nowhere near selfish, West indies had already lost the series. If you lose a series 3-1 or 3-0 it doesn't matter you still lost the series. Who on earth will give up a personal record to try a accomplish a win for their country( which could of never happen against a great english team). Whats the point of winning 1, at least you still lost the series.
Oh oh oh, when Hayden made 380 against of all teams Zimbabwe, you didn't even think of selfish. Zimbabwe a team that was really struggling, 380 runs is always a good team total against zimbabwe, so why on this earth you don't think 380 runs by 1 player( not a team) is not selfish. Hmmmm, what you got to say now?, hmmmm
Mate just get your brain together and stop posting senseless stuff. I am sure a 5 years old baby on this earth will never say lara is a poor batsman and selfish.
So Tendulkar is a poor player now then because he been in really poor form lately.
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Chin Music
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Posted: 20 December 2006 at 11:51am |
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To be honest I agree that Lara is a selfish player at times, but he's still a brilliant one. And that particular innings really wasn't that selfish because that test had draw written all over it practically from the word go didn't it?
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BOBBI
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Posted: 21 December 2006 at 8:26am |
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As a proud Aussie I struggle to say this but the best innings i am yet to witness was Michael Athertons against South Africa where he defied them for over 10 hours. I enjoy attacking players but for sheer guts and determination....
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Judge the player not by their stats, but by their opposition.
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daisy77
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Posted: 22 December 2006 at 9:12pm |
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I have never seen that innings before......
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prasmp
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Posted: 23 December 2006 at 7:40am |
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vvs laxmans 281 against mcgrath,warne,gillespie in a fourth day track will be the best ever innings. on an indian pitch lara will not have played an inning like this .indians where following on and they were at least 260 runs behind.
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70_degree_spin
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Posted: 23 December 2006 at 7:31pm |
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You know that Brian Lara's 501* he got bowled off a no ball when he was on like 40.
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cvasish
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Posted: 24 December 2006 at 7:51pm |
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WISDEN has rated Lara's 153* against australia as the 2nd best innings in cricketing world with Sir Bradman ahead on top. (lara single handedly won the match with only tail enders left with him) Lara's 227 against Australia, his maiden test century also gets a mention in WISDEN.
He even has one more innings mentioned in top 100 of WISDEN.
& for people arguing over his 400* i would like to ask... how many players have the class to score huge scores of 375.. 400* & 501*. Also Lara scored 400* n earning back his own highest score record makes it more fruitful.
Well his 400* cannot be termed as selfish coz if Lara had gone out for a cheap score than Windies might have lost that match too as without him they lose heavily. Also West Indies certainly didn't have the bowling attack which could take 10 English Wickets on a Dead rubber pitch on last day!! Unless ofcourse u have Mcgrath n WArnie in your team u cannot produce a result with that sort of Bowling attack.
I'm happy he scored 400* and his 153* is simply sensational to watch over and over again. (277 is also worth mentioning) Edited by cvasish - 25 December 2006 at 2:05pm |
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daisy77
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Posted: 24 December 2006 at 10:11pm |
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I like you already cvasish....
Great post....The best post I have seen in a long time. LOL. I agree with what you said about his 400* innings. I don't think I ever saw the 153* innings though. Sad but I don't remember seeing that.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 25 December 2006 at 12:21am |
Brilliant mate! Just brilliantly said! It's what I have been trying to say all along but you explained it better! Just brilliant!
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inzamam329
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Posted: 25 December 2006 at 12:14pm |
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people who criticse him about his 400 are jelous, he did not think he had the fire power to bowl eng out as they had been out played in the series so he made sure they could not lose. But its spot on to say how many guys in the recent age have scored so heavily in test cricket.
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inzamam329
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Posted: 25 December 2006 at 12:16pm |
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but his 153* against auss was one of the best but then again he has scored so many match winning/saving innings that it is diffcult to pick out one. He is without doubt the best batsman of my ere and possibly the best since Bradman.
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daisy77
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Posted: 25 December 2006 at 2:31pm |
Great to have another Lara fan...huh Spin...
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Posted: 25 December 2006 at 2:52pm |
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lol thank you... i hope atleast few anti lara guys will keep quiet now. lol if they do..
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Posted: 26 December 2006 at 7:01pm |
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I know we are on the Lara topic but am I the only one to recall Michael Athertons 175* against the likes of Donald, Pollock and co. He survived for 10 hours.
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 2:50am |
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Well, Atherton and Donald have had some great battles! It must have been a great innings cause Donald was super and Pollock was brilliant back then!
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