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garrywarne
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Topic: Brett LeePosted: 25 November 2007 at 7:42am |
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Is he in career best form? Better at ODI or tests in New Zealand 2 year ago he couldn't bowl in ODI's now he's good, at it but more importantly, he's takin 16 wickets in the past 2 tests!
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bondy
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Posted: 25 November 2007 at 8:21am |
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he's form of late has been well documented and I felt with the new responsibility it was time for him to shine- he has, now he has a series against India to test his character.
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Good one Graham!
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NZ_Fast
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Posted: 25 November 2007 at 10:32am |
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Its the first time in his career (to my knowledge) that he has gone a good period without a worrying injury, so of course hes bowling better than ever, not having to worry about injuries he just recovered from.
I will give it to him though that he did seem in the mental mindset of being the leading man now. |
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Sledger
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Posted: 26 November 2007 at 12:27pm |
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Good lad , Brett Lee ,I'm glad he's doing the business.
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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garrywarne
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Posted: 26 November 2007 at 7:00pm |
Same here, don't think he's a long term option though. |
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samhache
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Posted: 30 November 2007 at 7:42am |
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I think he is, why wouldnt he be?
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Sledger
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Posted: 30 November 2007 at 8:06am |
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I think he means that he's over 30 Sam. That really isn't
relevant as Lee is very fit and with good luck could still be playing
in 6 years time.
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michaelclarke
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Posted: 25 March 2008 at 12:00pm |
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what was Brett lee's fastest delivery.....i wanted to knowthis for a long time
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TKORL
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Posted: 25 March 2008 at 9:23pm |
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I think Brett Lee needs to slow down into Fast/Medium and use his faster ball as a surprise delivery, now that he's into his thirties, it will reduce wear and will have higher consistency, plus it will give him a deadly variation.
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Sledger
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Posted: 26 March 2008 at 5:35am |
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It'll give him plenty of time at home - if he can't bowl quick , he can't bowl for Australia.
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TKORL
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Posted: 26 March 2008 at 8:45pm |
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Mcgrath wasn't as quick.
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bondy
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Posted: 26 March 2008 at 11:49pm |
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They're completely different bowlers - you really have no clue, do you?
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Good one Graham!
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TKORL
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Posted: 27 March 2008 at 12:01am |
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Yes they are clearly completely different bowlers, thank you for that brilliant assertion. Now go and tell me that Warne and Murali are different bowlers to continue your streak.
Of course if you had actually read and considered the response you would have realized that I'm arguing for Brett Lee to vary his game to compensate for aging, and yes, become a different bowler. But reading goes a long way. But I guess you must be an expert of the game.... Edited by TKORL - 27 March 2008 at 12:13am |
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The Tyke
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Posted: 27 March 2008 at 12:41am |
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Maybe you haven't realised something mate. Brett Lee is the Aussie's EXTREME PACE bowler.
They have Clark to do what McGrath did and if Lee can't keep his pace up then Aus will more than likely look for a replacement, and they normally have one or two waiting in the wings ready to grab that chance.
A good bowling attack is all about variation and as it stands the Aussie's have that.
Lee - Extreme Pace
Clark - Metronome Bowler
Johnson - Left Arm Pace
Add whatever 4th bowler you want to that and you have a pretty varied attack. That's why the Aussie bowling attack is successful and hard to play against.
All of them are good bowlers but the key is that they're different styles of bowlers. It's very hard to settle in against the bowlers because they're so varied. Edited by The Tyke - 27 March 2008 at 12:42am |
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Minn hugur er minn sverð (My mind is my sword)
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bondy
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Posted: 27 March 2008 at 1:13am |
Ok. Let's change everything about Lee's bowling action and impetus he gains from consistent pace, accuracy, variation and swing. Let's remodell his action after the most successful summer he's ever had. Ever. McGrath was never quick. He never had to be quick as he extracted seam movement from almost all surfaces - his action also enabled him to be considerably accurate. They're completely different bowlers. Given the action of other forum members I think you should reconsider who and what you say before you make yourself look like even more of a fool. |
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Good one Graham!
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Sledger
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Posted: 27 March 2008 at 6:30am |
My sentiments exactly Tykey. Another thing too , nothing to back it up , but I believe Lee would rather stop playing than trundle in as a Shaun Pollock type bowler. He's an out and out quickie and that's what fires him up. Edited by Sledger - 27 March 2008 at 6:32am |
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TKORL
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Posted: 27 March 2008 at 11:00pm |
He may be extreme now, but in two years he won't be so extreme. Essentially what I'm saying is that he surpasses the rest of the Aussie bowlers, not just in pace, but in his judgement of line and length as well, and as such is a more talented bowler. Not to mention that after him Australia has no EXTREME place bowlers. Johnson is F/M, Bollinger is fast but not really extreme, Tait hasn't shown he has the quality yet to make an impact on the bigger stage. |
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TKORL
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Posted: 27 March 2008 at 11:06pm |
Ok, now where did I say Brett Lee should stop swinging the ball, lose accuracy, and variation? When did I advocate changing his action? First of all you absolutely cannot read what is in front of you, and to compensate for this utter cluelessness, you make up things and say, "Look you said this!!!". My initial assertion was that Brett Lee should focus on becoming a bowler who relies more on "accuracy, swing, and variation" as he will be losing pace as he grows older. Not to mention, due to his smaller frame, it will be more difficult for him to generate a lot of pace consistently at older ages, perhaps causing injuries. There is nothing particularly novel about changing his game later in his career, Akram and Walsh did it without any damage. |
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bondy
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Posted: 28 March 2008 at 3:26am |
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To even suggest Lee should slow down his pace at this point in his career gives not only myself but everyone here and indication of your cricketing knowledge. You made a mistake. I can accept that, just don't try and cover your tracks my causing an argument with your superiors.
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Good one Graham!
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TKORL
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Posted: 29 March 2008 at 12:04am |
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Superiors? Laughable. You came up with a poor response and in place of coming up with reasonable arguments, you contrived to make up things I had never said.
I still do suggest Brett Lee should slow down and focus more on swing. He will be slowing down anyways whether he wants to or not. |
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143no
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Posted: 30 March 2008 at 7:54am |
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Most will disagree with you tkorl, he does not do enough with the ball and his main asset is pace, there are better swing bowlers around than lee will ever be.
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hanif
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Posted: 30 March 2008 at 6:58pm |
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i agree his pace is what makes him dangerous and also a good cricketing brain and the desire to succeed. he is a very useful batsmen and has agood eye for the ball. he always wants to give 100% so i cant see him ever toning down he would probably rather retire then hang on till he is replaced. it is great to see him performing at his best as the game seems to be running out of great pace bowlers, bondy retiring from international, harmy never really great too eractic, flintoff injured career could be over as a bowler. malinga is probably the only good pace bowler other than lee i do stand to be corrected though.
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Posted: 31 March 2008 at 10:04am |
Dale Steyn is right up there with the best now. |
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bondy
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Posted: 31 March 2008 at 12:00pm |
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He most certainly is!
He has good records against NZ, West Indies, India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Against SL and England he hasn't done so well - though these test were at the start of his career- and he's come along way since then. Let's hope he destorys England when they meet, and can continue that form to the bouncy pitches in Australia. He is well set to become a devastating fast bowler. Edited by bondy - 31 March 2008 at 12:21pm |
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Good one Graham!
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Posted: 31 March 2008 at 1:23pm |
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Ishant Sharma's not exactly been bad when he's been bowling, although it's probably a bit early to start judging him.
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Posted: 01 April 2008 at 5:37am |
I've no problems with the Australian assessment bondy , but the first bit I hope is way off beam! |
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venom2011
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Posted: 04 April 2008 at 8:31am |
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And I agree with Bondy's first bit in particular
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Posted: 04 April 2008 at 10:54am |
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No surprise there matey!
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Posted: 05 July 2008 at 5:19am |
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Brett Lee won't slow down in my opinion till a year at most before he retires!(and that's unlikly)
Steyn,Sharma and Malinga are the pace men of today as far as I can see. I think Lee is going to be the spearhead of the Aus attack for two years at least.(hopefully more) |
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lennonmichael
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Posted: 20 December 2010 at 9:30am |
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Australian cricketer Brett Lee. After breaking into the Australian Test team, Lee was recognized as one of the world's fastest cricket bowling. He is an athletic outfielder and useful lower order batsman, and hit rate of over 20, cricket.
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