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    Posted: 23 December 2007 at 9:12pm

im not sure what to vote for



Edited by Monty - 23 December 2007 at 9:39pm
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bondy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 December 2007 at 9:38pm
Originally posted by Monty

i vote mine (obviously)


I'd like you to go back and actually read slogger's post before you edit this.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Monty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 December 2007 at 9:40pm

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You guys don't have to PM me answers, just post them up and I'll look at the thread every morning and check how many people have voted.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote samhache Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 December 2007 at 11:24pm
I'll vote for Rifats idea.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote canadiancricket Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 December 2007 at 12:26am
I think Bondy's idea and Rifat's idea are about the same. Players skills will obviously depend on their salaries so it doesn't matter. Below 1100 or below proficient would be the same idea except that in bondy's idea you have limited players to keep in a certain range which I like as it gives a better chance for teams like ours to compete. That way people can't field all respectable people or something. I don't completely know Rifats idea but they seem about the same. When will this start though?
and are we free to choose the starting line ups: like different playing elevens but within the rules.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote slogger72N/O Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 December 2007 at 8:53am
This will start at the beginning of next season when everyone is out of the cup, which could be week 2 or week 6. As for the starting lineup that depends on who wins, whoever wins can tell us about starting lineup ideas
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Post Options Post Options   Quote slogger72N/O Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 December 2007 at 8:54am
Originally posted by slogger72N/O

I reckon we should have a vote on this
 
I've had 4 ideas proposed so far
 
1) Monty's btr ratings idea
2) My 11000 pound idea
3) Bondy's wage cap idea (2)
4) I've also spoken to rifat who wants to do the cup with skills (e.g below respectable) (1)
 
So which idea do all you guys want to go with? Most votes for any of the cup formats wins, votes have to be in by Thursday at midmight. No-one can vote for their own idea and I personnaly think bondy's is the best so I'll vote for him.
 
Oh and as for the running of the cup Rifat will decide if he's going to do it in 10 days time and if not then I'll do it if no-one else wants to, but I'd really rather someone else did it this time around if rifat can't
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Post Options Post Options   Quote slogger72N/O Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 December 2007 at 8:54am
oops, I've just done that wrong, I meant to edit the origonal, not quote it, oh well at least it's on this page now
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MP12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 January 2008 at 6:43am
Interesting, I haven't seen this thread before.

I'd like to see either Bondy's salary cap rule.

With wages, they'll stay the same throughout the cup where as with skills, players can pop and other managers would have no idea whether he's within the limit or not. The BT rating would be interesting too, because it changes every Monday after training. One week you could use a player, the next you might not. Sorry Slogger I'm not a big fan of the 11000 pound rule however, you're trying to make the cup more interesting and fair and you can't be blamed for that.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote canadiancricket Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 January 2008 at 7:14am
yeah but with wages, if the player pops in a skill, the wage won't change too so the wage may not be the best option then.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote MP12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 January 2008 at 11:20am
I suppose that's true, but if a player was about to pop the wage could be rounded up to the nearest 100. Therefore judging whether he is still in the cap limit or not. Although the problem with this is, the BT Cup (6) will last maybe 6-8 weeks depending on the tournament structure, player's wages can increase immensely.

I'm still sticking with the salary cap rule although the BT ratings idea seems more and more attractive the more we discuss.

The caps/limits haven't been set yet right? Do we still get to negotiate them?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Monty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 January 2008 at 12:49pm
i have to pulll out of this, sorry, i have no money
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Post Options Post Options   Quote canadiancricket Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 January 2008 at 4:56pm
I'll change my option to Rifat's idea. I think it's better than Bondy's idea as a pop will change the players' skill while wage won't change and can't be sure if he is above the limit then. I am sure members here will not lie and play players within limits.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bondy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 January 2008 at 5:36am
why don't we make an allowance for pops and wages for only two of the players you're using. Moreover, we can pick a squad of players for the tournament and are unable to change that throughout.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MP12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 January 2008 at 5:39am
Sounds like a great idea, I'd go with that! Although I'm sure everything will be cleared up and announced when Slogger comes on.
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Sorry I've been off so long guys, I've been busy with coursework, then my PC stopped working again, but I'm back on now.

Bondy has got the most votes, so he needs to think about the exact rules he wants this cup to have, I suggest you think carefully about pops as well bondy, it could be very easy to exploit the wage rule as it changes so infrequently. I would suggest ruling out players who are recieving training, they would probably need a rest anyway.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bondy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 January 2008 at 7:46pm
I'll come back with a formula next week, but can PM you in the meantime also.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MP12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2008 at 10:45am
What have you come up with Bondy? I'd be interesting to know how this will all work out.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bondy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2008 at 9:40pm
I'll have it up within the next few days mate, been a bit busy lately. Sorry for the inconvenience. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MP12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2008 at 11:09pm
No problem mate.
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I've devised a formula for the 6th season of the Cricket World Battrick Cup. This year is unlike previous years, as managers will have to adhere to rules, thus narrowing the gap between the variety of playing levels we have here.
 
Here are the basic rules for the competition:
 
- each player must pick a squad of 13 players to use throughout the tournament.
- the fundamental way with which players are filtered is done through using a bracket system, whereby players must fall into the following parameters.
 
     - 2 players wages must fall in between 1000-2000 per week.
     - 6 players wages must fall in between 500-1000 per week.
     - 2 players wages must fall in between 0-500 per week
     - 2 players are to be trained throughout the season and used in a match. Their wages can range from 0-1000 per week.
 
This is a ruff outline of how the tournament will run. Competitors in the tournament will have to submit their squads before the tournament starts, using the extra 2 players (12 and 13) as replacements throughout the season. This can cover the selling or firing of players. Note that you're unable to choose a replacement player for your squad outside the initial 13.
 
Obviously this isn't going to suit each and every person who plays battrick. Those of who you are willing to buy a couple of extra players and participate are greatly appreciated, as I can understand some of the more traditional members in being 'too good' to compete with the rest of us. I'm afraid, however, that this season things have changed and it is you (YOU) the members of the forum that have voted for this idea. So NO complaining.
 
If you have any questions feel free to ask.
 
Cheers, Bondy.
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote canadiancricket Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2008 at 8:40pm
I don't know about training players bondy. Like say I may not want to train any player who is playing in these friendlies as I would like to play trainable players in my actual games otherwise their PFL would be an issue as one OD or first class + training + friendly would result in low PFL.

Otherwise it seems okay. Say if a players pops to superb. Then wages won't increase so can we play that guy. What if we have no one above 1000, then we can't play. Is it?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bondy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2008 at 9:05pm
For those of you who don't have any players above 1000 per week in wages, don't worry. You'll be able to use your 'best' two players instead.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote canadiancricket Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 January 2008 at 9:26pm
you still didn't answer the question. I don't want to play any trainable players in friendlies. Can I still play. Also can we have 15 players to choose from. And you only gave parameters for 12 players not 13. 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote MP12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2008 at 6:34am
I'll have to wait until this Saturday (Wage update) before I will be able to make a judgement on whether I can compete or not. This will definatly limit the use of my all rounders!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote slogger72N/O Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2008 at 7:19am
Yeah, I will have to look at my wage update to see if I can compete, I have a feeling that playing 2 trainable players will be impossible for me, I only have 2 trainees, one is an U19 prospect with (nearly) superb bowling. The other is a strong/strong bowler, so I can't play trainees, I also think the rules a bit stupid really.
 
It appears I'm not the only one who doesn't like it either


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Post Options Post Options   Quote bondy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2008 at 7:58am
I was chosen to put forward a strategy based upon your initiation Slogger. It was your idea to try and narrow the gap between battrick teams and I was only happy to help.

If you guys don't like it, come up with your own rules, or we could just play a normal tournament like the past 5 seasons!


Edited by bondy - 16 January 2008 at 8:16am
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Post Options Post Options   Quote canadiancricket Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:13am
yeah they are just a bit vague. Might as well play a normal tournament bondy.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bondy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:15am
I threw something together in 5 minutes because the pressure was on to devise a formula. If I really wanted, or if I had the time, I bet I could come up with something ingenious; but, why? Given the attendance last season there's no reason why it will be any better this season. Maybe I should quit while I'm ahead after winning in season 5. 
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