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Poll Question: Will he make back into the Aust. side?
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    Posted: 18 November 2006 at 2:47am
Currently the Victorian skipper, aged 23 - He is has transformed himself from a leg break googly bowler into a fine, and aggressive middle order batsmen.
What are your views.
 
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I believe Cameron White is the future test captain. He may not follow Ponting instantly but he will follow. He has leadership tattooed all over him and as you said is 23. Look at the next generation, Jacques, Cosgrove, Tait, Croswaite, Johnson. White looks pretty set in that group.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MP12 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 November 2006 at 8:32am
I agree that when Ponting retires Camron White will be the next captain. He's a fantastic Allrounder for Victoria and scores 100's regularly. They should definatly put him in one of the ashes tests to give him experience for the future. Victorian's have been over looked when selecting for the national side. Only Warne is in the team permantly. Hodge and White deserve a chance to prove themselves.
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Dont worry about the poll, I forgot to put in "Both Forms," Unless Pete of JP can add it in..
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I think Cameron White will make his way into the One day side before breaking through to the test team and being a huge success.
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So long as he is not expected to be SK Warne
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 November 2006 at 11:42am
His bowling isn't anywhere near good enough to worry Test match players so his batting would need to continue developing a fair bit to warrant a place in the team
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His bowling is continually improving, he started off as a leggie who could bat, then he focused on his batting too much. He has a ripping leggie, and still needs to further develop his leg break - he has the support of Victorian team-mate, the great Shane Warne and many other sources ---> he can only get better.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 November 2006 at 11:49am
Well he only managed 15 wickets at over 48 in our apparently rubbish County Championship, so he'd need to get a lot better
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He scored a double ton , and got 140 in a 20:20 match.... he made up for it in terms of batting - that's the thing about White, if he fails with the ball, he will get runs. The selectors have lost faith in him after a couple of ODIs and he is no longer contracted, but he is young - time's on his side.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote NZ_Fast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 November 2006 at 11:14pm
I saw him in an ODI here, got a golden duck i belive (brilliant vettori diving catch) and i swear the only ball he slightly turned was his googly, his leggie just went dead straight.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote TCA123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 November 2006 at 12:37pm
There isn't an option for both forms of the game. I think he has a chance to make an impact in both.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BOBBI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 November 2006 at 9:34pm
Fear not, when he was bowling regularly, he moved it quite enough. So many people are focussed on how much they can move the ball. Reality is, you only need to move t 2-3 inches to take the edge of a bat.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote NZ_Fast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 November 2006 at 10:47pm
To reiterate what i have allready said, what i have seen of him it didn't even spin 1 cm!
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I've not seen much of White , but he can certainly hit a ball! At 23 , there's plenty of time to make an impact on the international stage - obviously captaincy potential after Ponting retires after this Ashes series defeat!
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To reiterate what i have allready said, what i have seen of him it didn't even spin 1 cm!
 
Kiwi wickets do not cater for spinners. I have seen him bowl at the MCG and he did spin it..
 
Pete, I think White is a born leader and would be the next Aussie ahead of Clarke.. he is like Brearley but can actually play cricket.
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Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy

he is like Brearley but can actually play cricket.


Ooooooooooooh!!! Very cutting Mik !!
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Sorry for stating the obvious Pete.
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His matrity for such a young man is the most impressive factor about him. He was a slogger who bowled spin and transformed himself into a class bat.
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I am ignorant enough to not know who Cameron White is.
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Yeah who is this Cameron white?
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Class bat is a big call, granted he can murder a ball but he is not a genuine batsman, He bowls similar to kumble, pretty quick and accurate. I can see him as a reg in 1 dayers but not in tests. 
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His batting would be a joke at test level, he isn't anywhere near good enough! I can see him replacing Michael Clayke or Andrew Symonds if either of them lose form but only then and only in ODI as a guy who can slog in the last few overs and perhaps get a cheap wicket. Nowhere near good enough for test though.
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His batting would be a joke at test level, he isn't anywhere near good enough! I can see him replacing Michael Clayke or Andrew Symonds if either of them lose form but only then and only in ODI as a guy who can slog in the last few overs and perhaps get a cheap wicket. Nowhere near good enough for test though.


How would you know if he isn't given a chance?
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That is a load of crap. The bloke has first class double tons, and other centuries. You need temperament and control to be able to do that. Unless you have seen him play it is hard to judge him.. He can score fast, but he doesn't really take the aerial route, and if he does it is usually over the field, not through it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 December 2006 at 9:55am
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His batting would be a joke at test level, he isn't anywhere near good enough! I can see him replacing Michael Clayke or Andrew Symonds if either of them lose form but only then and only in ODI as a guy who can slog in the last few overs and perhaps get a cheap wicket. Nowhere near good enough for test though.


How would you know if he isn't given a chance?



So do you believe every single player in the game should be given a Test to see if they are good enough at that level?
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His batting would be a joke at test level, he isn't anywhere near good enough! I can see him replacing Michael Clayke or Andrew Symonds if either of them lose form but only then and only in ODI as a guy who can slog in the last few overs and perhaps get a cheap wicket. Nowhere near good enough for test though.


How would you know if he isn't given a chance?



So do you believe every single player in the game should be given a Test to see if they are good enough at that level?


No, but White has first class double centuries, and this guy's saying he'd be nowhere near up to test standard. If he can bat for that long to score a double century, I think he has potential to become a Test Player.
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His batting would be a joke at test level, he isn't anywhere near good enough! I can see him replacing Michael Clayke or Andrew Symonds if either of them lose form but only then and only in ODI as a guy who can slog in the last few overs and perhaps get a cheap wicket. Nowhere near good enough for test though.


How would you know if he isn't given a chance?



So do you believe every single player in the game should be given a Test to see if they are good enough at that level?


No, but White has first class double centuries, and this guy's saying he'd be nowhere near up to test standard. If he can bat for that long to score a double century, I think he has potential to become a Test Player.


Yeah youre right, Jason Gillespie should be in the Aussie side as a batsman.
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His batting would be a joke at test level, he isn't anywhere near good enough! I can see him replacing Michael Clayke or Andrew Symonds if either of them lose form but only then and only in ODI as a guy who can slog in the last few overs and perhaps get a cheap wicket. Nowhere near good enough for test though.


How would you know if he isn't given a chance?



So do you believe every single player in the game should be given a Test to see if they are good enough at that level?


No, but White has first class double centuries, and this guy's saying he'd be nowhere near up to test standard. If he can bat for that long to score a double century, I think he has potential to become a Test Player.


Yeah youre right, Jason Gillespie should be in the Aussie side as a batsman.


I'm talking about a batsman with proper batting skill, you dimwit.
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His batting would be a joke at test level, he isn't anywhere near good enough! I can see him replacing Michael Clayke or Andrew Symonds if either of them lose form but only then and only in ODI as a guy who can slog in the last few overs and perhaps get a cheap wicket. Nowhere near good enough for test though.


How would you know if he isn't given a chance?



So do you believe every single player in the game should be given a Test to see if they are good enough at that level?


No, but White has first class double centuries, and this guy's saying he'd be nowhere near up to test standard. If he can bat for that long to score a double century, I think he has potential to become a Test Player.


Yeah youre right, Jason Gillespie should be in the Aussie side as a batsman.


I'm talking about a batsman with proper batting skill, you dimwit.


Well why on Earth are you wasting your time talking about White who isn't anywhere near good enough you fool. Anyone can score a double century, Mark Ramprakash can, but could he handle test? NO!!! Graham Hick scored a bloody quadruple century but could he handle test cricket? NO!! Get over this guy for goodness sake, and while youre at it get over yourself!
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